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good morning Doc, oh yes I understand perfectly and can sympathize with you lol, well good luck with your baby girl! The best is yet to come! Enjoy every moments even if at times you feel discouraged because you'll never have that same experience again with you girl and dear they do grow fast😳
I was talking to Bug yesterday Princesse and we talked about the same thing - its part of the journey with a Dober The wife and I talk about it just about every night - What Chi did or Kasia , Ali , Kadin and a few more others did as puppies - it comes up down the road too after we lose one - it's the great memories we build over the years , Won't trade it for nothing Little girl is coming along pretty good , well , for the most part , LOL Another month and I see big changes with her . I have been working her here with the lead and other OB , but very short sessions , shes starting to get it .

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thank you for the direction but unfortunately I don't have any of those functions at the end of my posts whatsoever...probably goes back to my original problem, I'll just have to be careful typing...lol I know I makes some grammatical errors myself.
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good morning Melbrod, well that's very nice of you to offer but how would I see my answers if we do that move my threads...and how would I answer. Probably complicated also...for now I can post in here puppy corner and someone had told me to search the girls outside and I was able to open that thread as well and they had said to post there also if I wanted...but not sure on how to start a new thread on an ongoing thread ...anyway a few option here. I do received your PM's but after first reading them I don't know how to get them back up to read or answer on the PM's...let's keep it simple for me which it's easier<img src="https://www.dobermantalk.com/images/smilies/smile1.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile1" class="inlineimg" /> I have a question how do you go about editing a post? I forgot how already haha. Thank you for your help and your interest!
Do you have the forum open in a browser (like Chrome) on your phone? If so, have you tried choosing the option to exit the "enhanced mobile view"? That's the only way I can get the forum to work on a phone for me. It is a little more cumbersome, but that seems to work for being able to actually navigate everything.
no I haven't tried that yet Medowcat, thank you I'll see what I can do. In the meantime I rather keep it simple. If it's more cumbersome it probably won't be good for me...hahaha I'm not too savvy.
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good morning Doc, oh yes I understand perfectly and can sympathize with you lol, well good luck with your baby girl! The best is yet to come! Enjoy every moments even if at times you feel discouraged because you'll never have that same experience again with you girl and dear they do grow fast&#x1f633;
I was talking to Bug yesterday Princesse and we talked about the same thing - its part of the journey with a Dober [IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG] The wife and I talk about it just about every night - What Chi did or Kasia , Ali , Kadin and a few more others did as puppies - it comes up down the road too after we lose one - it's the great memories we build over the years , Won't trade it for nothing [IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG] Little girl is coming along pretty good , well , for the most part , LOL Another month and I see big changes with her . I have been working her here with the lead and other OB , but very short sessions , shes starting to get it .

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awwww that's great Doc, yes they leave us with wonderful memories. Were all your puppies that you mentioned dobermans? Me Duke is my second dobe. And dogs as an adult. Yes I did grow up around all kinds of dogs on the farm, but it wasn't like today's dogs back then...they were outside dogs and today we all have our dogs inside and especially the doberman. I like these times and bond with my baby better than when i was growing up...I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to communicate. That's great that you're doing the lead and training yourself, I did too. I find it more rewarding...yes they catch on fast, I'm always amazed by the breed. Cheers.
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no I haven't tried that yet Medowcat, thank you I'll see what I can do. In the meantime I rather keep it simple. If it's more cumbersome it probably won't be good for me...hahaha I'm not too savvy.
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awwww that's great Doc, yes they leave us with wonderful memories. Were all your puppies that you mentioned dobermans? Me Duke is my second dobe. And dogs as an adult. Yes I did grow up around all kinds of dogs on the farm, but it wasn't like today's dogs back then...they were outside dogs and today we all have our dogs inside and especially the doberman. I like these times and bond with my baby better than when i was growing up...I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to communicate. That's great that you're doing the lead and training yourself, I did too. I find it more rewarding...yes they catch on fast, I'm always amazed by the breed. Cheers.
Yes all of them were Dobermans - then we also had 3 Australian Shepherds - 2 of them were raised with a Dober - What a pair of dogs , lol

On a farm huh ? We also farm here in Indiana - but have to wonder with your sign off ( Cheers ) if you live in the states or not - Sounds more like you may be from England
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awwww that's great Doc, yes they leave us with wonderful memories. Were all your puppies that you mentioned dobermans? Me Duke is my second dobe. And dogs as an adult. Yes I did grow up around all kinds of dogs on the farm, but it wasn't like today's dogs back then...they were outside dogs and today we all have our dogs inside and especially the doberman. I like these times and bond with my baby better than when i was growing up...I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to communicate. That's great that you're doing the lead and training yourself, I did too. I find it more rewarding...yes they catch on fast, I'm always amazed by the breed. Cheers.
Yes all of them were Dobermans - then we also had 3 Australian Shepherds - 2 of them were raised with a Dober - What a pair of dogs , lol

On a farm huh ? We also farm here in Indiana - but have to wonder with your sign off ( Cheers ) if you live in the states or not - Sounds more like you may be from England [IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]
oh lol no sorry, I didn't even though about it when I signed off. I usually finish with a thank you for your help. But it didn't apply haha. Oh wow you have a lot of experience with the dobermans, that's great. No we live in the states in the suburbs now,I grew up on a farm...looking foward to your expertise on my next question with my boy! Enjoy your day
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looking foward to your expertise on my next question with my boy!


Oh no - I'm no expert - lol Just have seen lots of things over the years - There are experts on this site - likw I said - I'm not one of them . You came to the right spot to learn on them - Lots of training in OB , Showing , Nose work , you name it , they are here , Have a great day .
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Hi Ecin, wow what a beautiful pair you have! Jezzz you have your hands full that's for sure! That's great enjoy! I don't think that I could handle 2 but again in another year I might change my tune and want a get Duke a little play mate! Hahaha .thank you for sharing I love pictures!!!
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[B]Oh no - I'm no expert - lol Just have seen lots of things over the years - There are experts on this site - likw I said - I'm not one of them . You came to the right spot to learn on them - Lots of training in OB , Showing , Nose work , you name it , they are here , Have a great day. Hi Doc, thank you!I'll just pass this by you real quick, I'm interested in finding out if Duke would protect me in case of a bad encounter on my walks with him...he protects the back yard and the house RV etc... but I'm curious, I read that there's a test that you can take to find out his temperament? Wae I think they called it. I'm wondering where do you go about finding such a test? If you know I would gladly appreciate it! Thanks in advance! Should I start a new thread on the subject?
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I , persona have never heard of the test you asked about , I would start a new tread .
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[B]Oh no - I'm no expert - lol Just have seen lots of things over the years - There are experts on this site - likw I said - I'm not one of them . You came to the right spot to learn on them - Lots of training in OB , Showing , Nose work , you name it , they are here , Have a great day. Hi Doc, thank you!I'll just pass this by you real quick, I'm interested in finding out if Duke would protect me in case of a bad encounter on my walks with him...he protects the back yard and the house RV etc... but I'm curious, I read that there's a test that you can take to find out his temperament? Wae I think they called it. I'm wondering where do you go about finding such a test? If you know I would gladly appreciate it! Thanks in advance! Should I start a new thread on the subject?
The WAE is not a test to "find out" temperament. It's an evaluation of a Doberman's temperament based on going through several stations and having a trained evaluator assess their reactions to each station. It is the Working Aptitude Exam. Dobermans must be registered with the AKC in order to take the exam. WAEs are offered periodically throughout the country by DPCA chapter clubs (my club offers one every year, for example).

You can read about the WAE here: https://dpca.org/awards/wae/

Essentially, your dog is evaluated on how they react to the following:

- A neutral stranger
- A friendly stranger
- A hidden clattering (someone holds a tin can with noise and is hidden from the dog - do they move to investigate it?)
- A gunshot
- An umbrella (popped open suddenly as they approach it - must closely investigate it)
- strange footing (an x-pen flat on the ground, a tarp flat on the ground, dogs must walk on them)
- response to a threat (stranger approach in a threatening manner)

More description is on the WAE page. You can click to see the scoresheet, where a bit more description is given of each exercise. I've seen dogs get non-passing scores on any of the exercises. One of the evaluators reminds our club often that this is simply an evaluation of temperament to give us insight into our dog. Too many people start to look at it as a "title" (dogs can receive their Working Aptitude Certification) and try to train their dogs to pass certain elements, which is not what this is for.

In any case, hope that gives you a little bit of info on the WAE. If you can find one near you (and right now it may be hard with the pandemic) it is excellent to watch. You can learn a lot about temperament in our breed. If your dog is registered you can take the exam.
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The WAE is not a test to "find out" temperament. It's an evaluation of a Doberman's temperament based on going through several stations and having a trained evaluator assess their reactions to each station. It is the Working Aptitude Exam. Dobermans must be registered with the AKC in order to take the exam. WAEs are offered periodically throughout the country by DPCA chapter clubs (my club offers one every year, for example).

You can read about the WAE here: https://dpca.org/awards/wae/

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- strange footing (an x-pen flat on the ground, a tarp flat on the ground, dogs must walk on them)
- response to a threat (stranger approach in a threatening manner)

More description is on the WAE page. You can click to see the scoresheet, where a bit more description is given of each exercise. I've seen dogs get non-passing scores on any of the exercises. One of the evaluators reminds our club often that this is simply an evaluation of temperament to give us insight into our dog. Too many people start to look at it as a "title" (dogs can receive their Working Aptitude Certification) and try to train their dogs to pass certain elements, which is not what this is for.

In any case, hope that gives you a little bit of info on the WAE. If you can find one near you (and right now it may be hard with the pandemic) it is excellent to watch. You can learn a lot about temperament in our breed. If your dog is registered you can take the exam.
Hi, thank you for the great explanation of WAE and link to it, you completely answered my question. I wont need to start a new thread on it...unfortunately my dog is registered with the CKC because he's from both American and European bloodlines. So I guess I'm out of luck my curiosity is to,: if he would defend me on a bad encounter. Oh well I guess I will find out if the situation ever occurs...and hopefully not! thank you very much for your help! Ps: I'm not sure if I'm answering Meadowcat or Ecin. I see both names above. Still new to the site and my side of the forum is still not working properly so thanks to all!
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Hi, thank you for the great explanation of WAE and link to it, you completely answered my question. I wont need to start a new thread on it...unfortunately my dog is registered with the CKC because he's from both American and European bloodlines. So I guess I'm out of luck my curiosity is to,: if he would defend me on a bad encounter. Oh well I guess I will find out if the situation ever occurs...and hopefully not! thank you very much for your help! Ps: I'm not sure if I'm answering Meadowcat or Ecin. I see both names above. Still new to the site and my side of the forum is still not working properly so thanks to all!
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Hi, thank you for the great explanation of WAE and link to it, you completely answered my question. I wont need to start a new thread on it...unfortunately my dog is registered with the CKC because he's from both American and European bloodlines. So I guess I'm out of luck my curiosity is to,: if he would defend me on a bad encounter. Oh well I guess I will find out if the situation ever occurs...and hopefully not! thank you very much for your help! Ps: I'm not sure if I'm answering Meadowcat or Ecin. I see both names above. Still new to the site and my side of the forum is still not working properly so thanks to all!
You might look for an ATTS temperament test. Neutered dogs may take that test, which is similar to the WAE in many ways.

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Thank you very much for all of the great information Meadowcat. And links, I'll check it out as well.
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