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Hi I have a new topic to ask your help and advices on. I previously raided my beloved Princesse for 12 years and never had this problem, so I'm left clue less after encountering this behavior with my now 11month old male puppy Duke. We had started leaving Duke for about 1/2 an hour at a time when he was 5 months old with the house puppy proofed and returning with no destructions of any kind in the house. We then stayed out to up to an hour and it was still fine... then the Corona virus hit and we were inside with Duke all day long and for months I didn't realize that he was really becoming a velcro dog... so after being able to go out again for an hour or so for a quick dinner we came home after a few times and btw I always left him with puzzles and a marrow bone for chewing to keep him busy and his toys... we one day came home to a chewed up cushion on our leather couch😥 so I didn't punish but just say a firm no and showing him the damage... after a few days tried to leave again and he went back to the same cushion and pulled it apart again... I did the same correction and sent him outside to put the stuffing back in the cushion and put the couch back together the best I could. The next time we left him he didn't destroy the couch and a couple of days later he destroyed a second cushion on the same couch...I tried to really explain the situation so you can see the picture and give me suggestions on what to do next since he now has developed what I think to be separation anxiety. I made a crate with baby gate in the kitchen area when he was young but never physically trained him to be in a crate. Which is too late now obviously. I hope I wasnt too long with my explanation and thank you in advance for your suggestions.
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A couple of things...first, "showing" him the thing he destroyed after it happened and scolding him does no good. You can't correct a dog long after he actually did the behavior you're "correcting" - that kind of delayed correction only confuses your dog. A correction is only helpful if you can do it the instant the dog is doing the behavior (as in - if you caught him ACTUALLY chewing the cushion - the second he was doing it). Dogs cannot make the connection that they are being scolded for the thing you are showing them. Don't be fooled if they "look guilty" - they are simply responding to your body language, your tone of voice, and your anger at them. All you're doing is teaching him that sometimes you come home angry.

It might be separation anxiety, or, it might be that he's simply not ready to be home unsupervised. It's definitely true that many people haven't been taking steps during the pandemic to leave their dogs home alone - taking walks without them, taking a drive, etc.

It's not too late to crate train. I would go back to treating him like a puppy. Introduce a crate or "puppy safe" area and train him to happily be in that area. Make it a fun, safe, happy place for him. Feed him meals in there. Put him in there during the day when you're home with a good chew. Encourage him to nap in there. Start taking small trips out of the house (maybe 5-10 minutes) with him in there so he gets used to you leaving and coming back. Don't make a big deal out of it - simply put him in, and when you come back, don't make a big deal out of it then, either. Just come in and let him out. If it's separation anxiety, you don't want leaving or coming home to be a production. You would want to basically ignore him when you come home a bit, so it's not a big, gushy, "OH, I can't believe I left you!" thing. Just yep, I was gone, no biggie."
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Good post, MC.
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Thank you, I would like to read other people's post to see if they're similar situation out there already and I'm unable to open up any of the chat sites! I cant open the forum index links either! Anything that um doing wrong? Or how can I let the monoraters know about it? I would gladly appreciate your input 🤗
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Meadowcat is a mod; I am too. So consider us notified.

But I'm not sure I understand your problem. Chat sites? Forum Index links? Are you using our search tool to try to find something? Or are you talking about about the links which are shown when you call up threads that are currently active (clicking on the "new posts" button)?

Is this a new problem, or have you never been able to…..do whatever it is you are trying to do ?
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Meadowcat is a mod; I am too. So consider us notified.

But I'm not sure I understand your problem. Chat sites? Forum Index links? Are you using our search tool to try to find something? Or are you talking about about the links which are shown when you call up threads that are currently active (clicking on the "new posts" button)?
Ok thank youv I'll be more specific I open forum index then scroll down to the topics like site news, doberman talk.com photo gallery, general training & obedience and all of those topics listed there in the index I cant open up...it comes right back to the forum index...and also I can't open any chat or search... and this is something that I can't do from the day I joined a couple of days ago.the only thing I was able to do is start a new post in puppy corner with the + button. I know I'm new to a forum and maybe I'm just missing the obvious. I hope that you understand better my problem and thank you for responding I'll be waiting for your advice. Princesse.

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Meadowcat is a mod; I am too. So consider us notified.

But I'm not sure I understand your problem. Chat sites? Forum Index links? Are you using our search tool to try to find something? Or are you talking about about the links which are shown when you call up threads that are currently active (clicking on the "new posts" button)?
Ok thank youv I'll be more specific I open forum index then scroll down to the topics like site news, doberman talk.com photo gallery, general training & obedience and all of those topics listed there in the index I cant open up...it comes right back to the forum index...and also I can't open any chat or search... and this is something that I can't do from the day I joined a couple of days ago.the only thing I was able to do is start a new post in puppy corner with the + button. I know I'm new to a forum and maybe I'm just missing the obvious. I hope that you understand better my problem and thank you for responding I'll be waiting for your advice. Princesse.
Hmmm, I'm a bit confused, because you posted in a thread, in the "puppy" forum"? Are you saying you can't click on other threads? How did you access this one?

If you are on a mobile device, you might try opening the forum in the "non-mobile" version instead of the mobile version. I don't use the forum on my phone, so I'm not much help on this.
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OK—so it sounds like you're looking at the drop-down menu under "Forums" on the top bar, clicking on a particular topic, and nothing opens up for you? And that the same thing is happening when you search or try to look at an individual thread?

That is definitely not normal. I looked at your access settings; they all appear to be set to the default mode (which would allow you to get in).

Soooo….are you still having that problem this morning?

I see MC's post above. I'm not a mobile phone user; I don't know if that applies to you—but if it does, did you try what MC suggested?
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Thank you for looking into it, for instance I go in the underlined in photo in red forum index and open it, from there all of the choices like photo gallery for example I cannot open and look at still this morning, I was able to open puppy corner but it was blank with a circle circling and I was able to start 2 posts from there by clicking on the + sign... here's the pictures of where I'm referring to. Thank you Princesse.
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