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Hi all! I’m not sure what to do and was hoping for some suggestions. I have a 12 week old female Dobe. She gets crazy when she sees our cat and dog and chases them all around and is just too much for the other critters to handle. I understand that she is a puppy and just wants to play, but the cat has been hiding in my bedroom for 3 weeks and is too scared to come out and my dog is 11 and he just isn’t having it. I have never had any issues introducing new animals before, but the puppy is extremely bull headed and I can’t get her to cooperate.
She also likes to jump, snap and “talkback” when you tell her No. Again, I understand she is a puppy but it’s causing a lot of stress in the house because we can’t get her to stop.
I had plans for all the things we were going to do once we got her, but then Covid19 hit and now everyone is quarantined, practicing social distancing, and places are closed, and there went all my big ideas out the window. We are trying to get her out but maybe it’s just not enough mental stimulation for her.
Anyways, I am open to any suggestions or recommendations from everyone.
Thank you all and I hope everyone is staying safe!
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Where are you in the country we are.in the Lake district @RoScoE DiAltobello Instagram,

Have your puppy in a lead from a young age.in the house and correct it.

Another good tip for a young dobermann is crate it! Ignore her crate it and take it out every few hours for the loo. Teaching the dog to accept being alone is one of the best things you'll do as many suffer from separation anxiety. When you get her out and after a good thing like loo teach the word wee so she associates it with

If your local to Liverpool there is a good trainer called Danny Wells one of the best trainers in the UK for sure!!
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I encourage puppy owners to umbilical train their puppies. This makes it VERY easy to correct any chasing of the other animals in the house - especially those smaller than themselves. This has the added bonus of preventing accidents, because you're always paying attention to them.
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puppy culture is offering a free puppy class because of COVID-19, I would start there


"No" doesn't mean anything to a puppy at this stage, they don't know the rules of life and saying "no" just sounds like a sharp (and thus exciting) intonation for them.

Your puppy is bored and wants to play and chasing cats and bugging older dogs is a lot of fun. You have to find something that can compete with that, a toy, a game, a bone she can gnaw on for a while.
I would also give her structured alone/crate/playpen time like giving her a certain kind of chew she ONLY gets in the crate/playpen, to make it extra special and high value.

Thirdly as others have already suggested you should use the umbilical - your puppy should never be left unsurpervised, and tying them to you is a great way of doing so. She won't be able to chase the cat or harass your other dog and it will recenter her focus and her world on you. I would at this point not allow ANY offleash interactions between her and your other pets.

You should also look into getting the Perfect Puppy in 7 Days book by Dr Sophia Yin - it's available in ebook format on amazon, and will have some concepts that might help you out.
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You have some good suggestions on tethering your pup. Right now is HARD with puppies - socializing and getting out is more limited, so you need to really step up your game to keep them engaged.

First, I'm going to link a thread on how to work with your pup and your cat: https://www.dobermantalk.com/puppy-c...ister-cat.html

Second, here are some ideas on working with your pup to properly socialize/train in a pandemic:

it's going to be really important to work extra hard on socialization because you're more limited on what you can do. One thing you have to be EXTRA careful about is if you are working from home you'll need to be very proactive about making time to leave your pup home alone. Dobermans are a super clingy breed, and making sure your puppy doesn't develop separation anxiety is going to be a huge priority. All dogs right now could get too used to owners being home, and it's especially hard for any new puppies. Make sure you use crate time, but also take time to plan walks without your pup, or take a drive for a while...plan time away from the house every day while you leave your puppy there, so he gets used to you being gone and being alone.


Additionally, some good resources for "raising puppies in a pandemic/socializing in a pandemic":

Free webinar by a good trainer: https://www.bigmarker.com/dog-parkou...iL8nhLiL8ea2HY

Here's a quick clip from one of our local trainers: https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video...WjjiU.facebook

Sign up for the Puppy Culture lessons that Artemis linked.

Check your area for remote training sessions. We have local trainers doing remote training. Get your puppy's brain engaged! Mental work is MUCH more tiring than physical training. Your dogs can have playtime together (and YOU need to intervene if it's "too much"), but really, your puppy does need short, structured training every day to wear her out, and, to start working on what she needs to know!

If you can't find something local, plug into a community that has a large training community. My area had a free Q & A for new puppy owners (see their FB post here: https://www.facebook.com/tcotc/posts/10156710280471581). Why not take advantage of all the remote options...you don't need to be local to see the great stuff available!

Here's another great video option to learn - from the great Ken Ramirez, socializing puppies! https://theranch.clickertraining.com/live-episode-3/

There are some awesome video channels on Youtube for basic training, too...search for Kikopup for some introductory learning.


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This thread also has great advice for managing a puppy who is just "too much" for an older dog. Lots of great advice here: https://www.dobermantalk.com/general...older-dog.html


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I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions, training tips, and different links. I am working my way through it all and it is very sound and helpful info.
I kept her on leash yesterday and today while my older dog joined us in the living room. I did get her to leave him alone for most of the time. I give her lots of verbal praise (and pieces of her food if I have on me) while she watches him calmly. As soon as she gets worked up, I tell her to leave him, and the moment she looks away from him, I again praise and reward.
She is really good at sitting, I don’t even have to say “sit”. I make sure she sits before she is fed, and before we put the leash on, and before I open the door for her.
We are working on her walking in heel. Inside she does very well, outside is actually pretty good for her age. She will get distracted or switch sides so I only reward and praise when she comes back to heel. She is very food driven, which is helpful.
She is still getting overly excited and jumping and snapping, but I am determined to stop that. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Thank you all again for being so kind and helpful, I greatly appreciate it! I hope you all are well and stay healthy!
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I would encourage you to decide what kind of behavior you truly want on her walks. If it is just that she shouldn't pull you around and should go with you willingly whenever you change directions, she doesn't have to actually walk on one particular side or the other, and she can be allowed to take a sniff or two at something, so long as she moves along with you when you're ready to go. If you are going into more formal obedience later, teaching her to walk on your left and pay attention to you at all times will be necessary at some point.

But a dog can learn to differentiate when they are free to move around within the constraints of your leash, and when they need to stick by your side and be perfect.

For my needs, all I really want is a dog who walks politely on a leash, and I am actually more concerned that I get a quick down and stay in place so I can control a dog at my side, and a good off-leash recall. It is OK with me if the dog wants to lie on his side and just sack out, so long as he is relaxed and waits until I release him. He doesn't have to be in the sphinx position with his full attention on me at all times the way I might want him to be in a formal obedience setting. I also want an instant speedy come (which again isn't necessarily a formal obedience slide to a stop and sit perfectly in front of me--I just want a come to within my easy reach and stay next to me.) So those are the things I focus on, especially with a puppy.

Your mileage may vary.

Dogs don't generalize well, and puppies are especially distractible and have basically no self control--a sit in your house is different from a sit in your backyard is different from a sit in the park. I read somewhere that when you are teaching a stay (or actually any behavior I suppose), there are three conditions which can vary--the place where the dog is being asked to stay (ie the level of distraction); the length of time she is expected to stay there; and how far away you are from her during that time.

When you are training, you should only vary one condition at a time. Don't set her up to fail by throwing it all at her at once.


And remember--have fun and make it fun for her!! Sure, it can be frustrating when the little stinker acts out (and they always do it at the most inconvenient time and place) But a dog having fun is a willing dog (mostly). She'll keep trying hard to please you if you keep it a happy time for the most part. With a puppy, training sessions which are short, fun, and often, is the trick.

Always end on a good note. If she's not getting something, do something she CAN do at the end of your training so you both go away with a good taste in your mouths (figuratively for you--maybe literally for her )
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I'm the same as Melbrod...I don't need my dogs to walk "in heel" on casual walks. In fact, I do a lot of "sniffing walks", both because I think walks are really for my dogs, not for me, and because sniffing walks are both really enriching and really tiring for dogs. Of course I don't want dogs pulling, but as long as the leash is loose, we basically meander around where my dogs would like to go on many of our walks. Of course we sometimes have walks that are more "efficient" walks, but even on those, I don't expect heel position, simply a loose leash.

Couple of articles on sniffing walks: https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/th...dog-on-a-sniff

https://iheartdogs.com/why-its-impor...-during-walks/

Here's a great article on teaching scent games at home: https://suzanneclothier.com/pdfs/Scent%20Games.pdf

And, here's a link to Kikopup's video on socializing in a pandemic, in case you didn't find her channel yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU4t...CakU0URXGHlrOY


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So many great resources out there right now from great trainers!

Another "puppy in a pandemic" podcast! https://hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/1...dw9Wj2qyaWwIbQ


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Puppy life hacks! https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/...f_t=live_video

If you have a puppy, Paws Abilities would be a good page to follow on FB...they are posting a lot to help out new puppy owners


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MC - How do you get the sound on ? I took the mute off and still couldn't hear anything .

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It works on mine? On the actual video, do you have it unmuted? There is a small button on the video itself you have to make sure is unmuted - in the lower right corner of the video. And then, of course, your device (laptop, computer, etc) needs to have volume on.


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It works on mine? On the actual video, do you have it unmuted? There is a small button on the video itself you have to make sure is unmuted - in the lower right corner of the video. And then, of course, your device (laptop, computer, etc) needs to have volume on.
Like I said - Dumb farm boy found the problem - I needed to log on to face book first - Just shaking my head here - LOL

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