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New Puppy Supplies and Recommendations

Hi! I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy during this difficult time. On a positive note, we are likely bringing home our new Doberman puppy at the end of May. I was wondering if anyone could offer some type of checklist of supplies (with brand and size suggestions ) specific to a Doberman. Also, any advice is welcomed! Thank you!
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When you buy toys--pick the largest size available--don't even bother to buy more than one toy that is stuffed and has ears, eyes, feet or tails--the puppy will chew those off and eat them. No dog of mine has had stuffed toys beyond 4 months. JW toys are generally tough enough for Dobes and the puppies always like the ones that squeak and drive you crazy best. Kong products are generally good choices too. Kong and a couple of other companies make wish bone shaped toys that have been popular with my dogs. And bones--the ones I get I've only seen at dog shows--they are sterilized, not stuffed with anything and BIG.

I use stainless steel feeding dishes and make sure that they are washed after each meal in hot water and soap.

While puppies are small I have a stainless steel water bowl--on a big heavy towel and a bucket outside. And I spend some time teach puppies to not play in the water bowl--it's bad enough that they bring you a big mouthful of water when they get a drink.

I crate train puppies--and have a big crate that lives by the back door in the kitchen but I also have a crate in my bedroom next to my bed so the puppy is contained at night. And if you don't expect to sleep with a grown Doberman (and they are all bed hogs) don't start letting him sleep with you as a puppy., Ditto for furniture--if you don't want a dog on the furniture don't EVER let him on the furniture--I have big dog beds in every room except the kitchen (because there is a crate there) and when puppies are small I often sit on their bed but they don't get to be on the furniture (the cats get the furniture and the bed but the puppy gets to go with me everywhere).

I buy cheap blankets to toss over the dog beds (and I've been buying dog beds from Costco for years now)--they have removable covers that hold up well and wash well and I've got some that are 20 years old--much the worse for wear but still usable and the price is right.

I also use the cheap blankets in the kitchen crate until the puppies learn not to chew on them. And I spend some time actually training puppies that beds aren't to dig in nor are they anything to play with or drag around.

A collar and a leather leash. buy the collars as flat buckle collars--preferably in leather--there's a company that makes really nice ones that aren't expensive but leather doesn't leave marks on the coat. Leather (rawhide preferably--it's easy on the hands and holds up well--I use 5/8" or 1/2"--and teach the puppy not to chew on it from the beginning.o

I'll have to ask who it is that makes the leather collars--for the most part my dogs, including puppies don't wear collars at all at home and I have dozens of dirt cheap slip leads (like they use in vet clinics and kennels to move dogs) on every door knob or in my pocket.

I'm sure you'll get lots more suggestions but those are basics for me.

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Thank you! Great suggestions!
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I would suggest getting a Dremel and slowly introducing it to your puppy. Don't go straight to grinding nails, start out by just having it close by and running so he gets use to the sound. I found introducing the Dremel very slowly with lots of treats worked great and from that point on it was no trouble at all doing my dogs nails once a week to keep them short and round.

Also it's a good idea to get those little dog tooth brushes that slip on to your finger. While you don't really need to worry too much about plaque build up on puppy teeth that will fall out in a few months, getting your dog use to it now will make it much easier once they are grown.

My #1 suggestion would be to start doing your research on dog training in your area as you will absolutely want to at least take your dog to puppy classes. Look for a place that uses positive reinforcement maker training and doesn't focus on corrective style training. Dobermans are very intelligent dogs with lots of energy so you will have to have activities lined up that will provide lots of exercise and mental stimulation.
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Well, I've given up doing anything else outside--there has been a hatch of about a zillion kinds of flying insects--and I've got squashed insects all over me--from gnats and noseeum's to small flies and a herd of teeny tiny moths. I could hardly put dirt in the last hanging baskets they insects were attaching me so agressively.

But you should find out in advance of the arrival of the puppy what food your breeder wean the puppies on. I buy a bag of whatever the breeder is feeding and plan on leaving the puppy on that for at least three weeks at that point if you don't like what the breeder fed you can start a change to the food you think is better. If you really think the breeders choice of food is terrible you can add things to the kibble. I regularly add cottage cheese, yogurt, eggs (I hard boil them because the dogs have to share with me--I like egg salad sammiches) and maybe some canned food--but if I do that I pick very high quality stuff and feed only a minimal amount--a good many dogs can't tolerate canned food as puppies and have anything from soft stools to outright diarrhea from it.

And my dogs all get bits and pieces of anything I'm cooking--usually that vegetables--I don't give the onions or garlic (a look at Google will give the reason that you don't really want to give dogs those two things) but celery, tomatoes, lettuce, cabbage, bits of zucchini, cucumbers (if I'm peeling them all of the dogs will beg for the peels. Everyone eats almost any kind of fruit--I've only had one that liked citrus--lemons--he'd beg for them--I could hardly believe that. But I have a cat who likes cantelope so much he'll argue with a dog about who gets it.

All of the stuff I give dogs other than their kibble is in small quantities and I don't often give actual table scraps--(my dogs are not allowed to beg for food at the table--the either have to go in the living room to a dog be or in a bedroom or to the crate in the kitchen). The main reason I don't want them begging for table scrap is because it's a pain when there is company who doesn't have dogs and mine are predigesting every bite with their eyes while someone is eating. The other reason is that I actually like leftovers and I want them more than my dog does.

I don't know where everyone went--I'll add stuff as I think of it and eventually the rest of the folk who have good ideas will show up.

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We've had a couple of threads over the years about laying in puppy supplies--
Here's one.
https://www.dobermantalk.com/puppy-c...ml#post3955817

Give it a gander--there may be some extras in it that no one has mentioned yet.
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Hi cmichalenok! And welcome from the Pacific NW.

I will let others give you the puppy supply lists.

This list is for YOU:

Neosporin and a box of Bandaids. They don't call these cute little fur babies "Dobersharks" for nothing! LOL

Just kidding. (sort of).

Personally, I have to say raising a Doberman puppy has always been on my list of favorite experiences.

Keep us updated.

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Thanks all! Dobebug, did you remember the brand name of the collar?
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A lot of great information already.
Traditional Kong is a must.
Pups need to chew ....so you must provide them safe things to chew .
Traditional Kongs are great.
You can add water to dry kibble until softened .....then stuff this mixture into the Kong and freeze the Kong.
Your little pup will chew on this for awhile and you will get some well deserved sleep.
Oh yeah...they are little sharks with those sharp pup teeth.
When you play ..wear long sleeves . It will keep you from getting all scared up from those little dober teeth!
Oh...and let me tell you something that I wish I knew at the beginning.
Clicker training is great.
When your dog obeys...i.e. sits........you mark it.....using a clicker ....once you click then treat.
IMO when introducing something new in training a clicker has a destintive sound great that really helps your dog identify they did a good job....then follow up with treat for the reward (payday!!)
And one more thing......its hard to wear a puppy out physically.....but mentally......shoot they last 10 minutes in mental games and then ready for a nap.
Great games .....dog puzzles....hide and seek it also a lot of fun.
Games that make them have to think.........OK.....more folks will chime in soon with more ideas.

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Can anyone recommend a specific dog collar and leash for puppy when it gets home (around 8 weeks) ? Brand, size?
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Thanks all! Dobebug, did you remember the brand name of the collar?
The leather one I talked about? I don't but I'll find out today. But for the first collars--puppies outgrow them so fast I buy the inexpensive fabric ones that you can get in any pet store. If you get your puppy between 8 and 12 weeks the collars are pretty small and it varies a lot from puppy to puppy--you could ask your breeder to give you a measurement of the puppies neck size in the week before you pick him up and pick a collar (look on the label--it'll give you a small to largest size the collar will fit) and start there.

I've got a series of collars from years of puppies and have been reusing those over time. They are made by many different companies and all will work.

My puppies don't get expensive leather until they are older--but I've got a bunch of collars from those that fit 5 months to 9 month old puppies. By that time the next collar will probably fit until they are basically fully grown.

And for the leather leashes that I like--I buy them on line. Leatherman is one of the outfits I've bought from but I like them made from undyed rawhide or latigo, braided handle loops and snap attachments rather than sewn. And I look for snaps that are either trigger or scissor type and made from brass, bronze or stainless steel instead of pot metal (zinc--usually chrome plated and weak and easily broken).

One of the places I've bought dog stuff from is Leerburg (leerburg.com and I'd check them out on the internet and contact them to get a catalog from them. They have always been a predominately working dog equipment vendor but even the catalog (although I don't agree with everything they advocate) has a ton of excellent information in it and all kinds of equipment and in general what they sell is good quality and will last.

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Do you have ear posting supplies? If not hopefully the breeder can set you up and show you how to post.
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Can anyone recommend a specific dog collar and leash for puppy when it gets home (around 8 weeks) ? Brand, size?
puppies grow so fast - so I would not recommend buying a super expensive collar till they are full grown. Lupine makes a really good nylon collar that holds up very well. I've had 3 show litters of Dobermans, and I send lupine collars home with them as well as a 6' leather leash. As for leashes, I use nothing but leather leashes. I buy mine from a local vendor that has a booth at a lot of the local shows. I have leather leashes that are 20 years old. I have 6' flat leather leashes, and 4-5' leather braided leashes when I want to be a little fancier - haha.
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Thank you! My husband had a Doberman 20 years ago and mentioned posting with tampons? Any suggestions on supplies needed for posting? I’m trying to order as much as I can now due to delayed deliveries on a lot of items.
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Thank you! My husband had a Doberman 20 years ago and mentioned posting with tampons? Any suggestions on supplies needed for posting? I’m trying to order as much as I can now due to delayed deliveries on a lot of items.
The best method in my opinion is to use foam backer rod (also called caulking rod). It is sold in most hardware stores and comes in several sizes so you can adjust as your puppy grows. If you go in the ear posting section of this forum you will find a write up I did for the backer rod method.
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Since the world may still be pretty "locked down" and you may be very limited in how to socialize or unable to join puppy classes, I will pass on some great recommendations for how to socialize in a pandemic.

And remember, one thing you have to be EXTRA careful about is if you are working from home you'll need to be very proactive about making time to leave your pup home alone. Dobermans are a super clingy breed, and making sure your puppy doesn't develop separation anxiety is going to be a huge priority. All dogs right now could get too used to owners being home, and it's especially hard for any new puppies. Make sure you use crate time, but also take time to plan walks without your pup, or take a drive for a while...plan time away from the house every day while you leave your puppy there, so they get used to you being gone and being alone. I'd be really, really proactive on making sure to develop a plan to do separation anxiety prevention if you're working from home.

Here is a free webinar about socialization in a pandemic: https://www.bigmarker.com/dog-parkou...1pD4vq2drR8TNY

Highly recommend signing up for this NOW and watching...who knows how long it will be free, and Puppy Culture is fantastic: https://madcapuniversity.com/collect...bChmNNKAwWJYuQ

One of our local trainers was on the news with 5 tips for a new puppy right now: https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video...WjjiU.facebook
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Here's the tutorial on ear posting that greenkouki mentioned:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...acker-rod.html

Also a thread about how to get the posts off gently:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...ear-posts.html

And a little about caring for your pup's ears until they are healed enough to crop:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...-s-don-ts.html
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You might want to have a Money party before the puppy comes, or do something to commemorate having money. Once you get that Doberman puppy, kiss all of your money goodbye! You'll be buying grooming stuff and toys that you didn't even know existed lol. bye,bye, money.
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I've had leather leads from Pro-mohs that have lasted over 10 years. I have simple leather leads, in both 6 foot and 4 foot length. Highly recommend. It can be nice to have a slip lead on hand, too.

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I would suggest getting a Dremel and slowly introducing it to your puppy. Don't go straight to grinding nails, start out by just having it close by and running so he gets use to the sound. I found introducing the Dremel very slowly with lots of treats worked great and from that point on it was no trouble at all doing my dogs nails once a week to keep them short and round.

Also it's a good idea to get those little dog tooth brushes that slip on to your finger. While you don't really need to worry too much about plaque build up on puppy teeth that will fall out in a few months, getting your dog use to it now will make it much easier once they are grown.

My #1 suggestion would be to start doing your research on dog training in your area as you will absolutely want to at least take your dog to puppy classes. Look for a place that uses positive reinforcement maker training and doesn't focus on corrective style training. Dobermans are very intelligent dogs with lots of energy so you will have to have activities lined up that will provide lots of exercise and mental stimulation.
is there a con in using nail clippers versus a Dremel? Im new to dogs and my cats have been fine with nail clippers so I guess im just curious why most dog owners recommend dremmels versus nail clippers
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is there a con in using nail clippers versus a Dremel? Im new to dogs and my cats have been fine with nail clippers so I guess im just curious why most dog owners recommend dremmels versus nail clippers
I find it much easier to use a Dremel on dogs (I clip my cats with a clipper). Dobermans have dark nails and you can't see the quick. So it's easier to accidentally "quick" a Doberman with clippers than it is to do it with a Dremel. I also find that I get a nice smooth, round nail. They seem to tolerate the Dremel better, too. I use a Diamagroove head on mine, and I like it a lot. I don't keep mine show-short, but I do keep them short enough not to click on the floor and they are pretty reasonably short. I Dremel once a week.

I do know people that prefer a clipper, and it works for them. Whatever you choose, the key is to do them very regularly and to have your pup used to it right away. Most Dobermans need their feet done pretty often.


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Once I started using a dremel, I never looked back. The dogs got so accustomed to it (and the treats they got) that they practically waved their feet in the air when it was time for me to do their nails. I never had that kind of compliance from a dog I was using clippers on. Dogs are generally more comfortable having their nails dremeled than having them clipped. Dremels don't seem to pinch or squeeze the nails the way clippers do; you can get a nice smooth edge to the nail; it's much easier to avoid hitting the quick. But they do make noise and vibrate the nail as they grind it, so you have to go slow introducing one.

I use a dremel (more or less like this one).



Mine is a cordless Dremel multipro--the rechargeable battery doesn't have a super long running time--if you're doing multiple dogs in a row, that could be a problem for you--but a corded dremel is rather a pain to use (for me, anyway)

Dremel style tools marketed specifically as nail grinders for pets often don't have enough power to do tough dobe nails--it's really better just to use an ordinary hobby dremel with the coarse sandpaper roll.

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A nail trimming demo:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...nstration.html


And how to get your dog used to a dremel:


"Just take it slow...depending on what she will allow...you may even need to start with rubbing it all over her with the motor off. Then with the motor on, but just somewhere in the room at a distance, then touching a nail for a second or too, then grinding one nail, then a whole foot and so on.

And of course, lots and lots of treats---sometimes even after every toenail when you get to the full foot thing.

Go ahead and start getting her used to the thing. Keep clipping if you need to until she is OK with the grinder. But, of course, do the grinder introduction randomly throughout the day and not in the same session as clipping time.

Two hints...

1. Always support the nail with a finger or thumb as you grind . That lessens the vibration on that toe, and I imagine makes it less tickly for her.
2. Never grind on one nail for more than few second at a time. The area you are grinding can get quite hot. If you need to do more grinding than that, just go on to another nail and come back to the first.

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If you are on FB, this is an excellent group to learn how to dremel/care for your dog's nails:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nail...ance.for.dogs/


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is there a con in using nail clippers versus a Dremel? Im new to dogs and my cats have been fine with nail clippers so I guess im just curious why most dog owners recommend dremmels versus nail clippers
Ella,

I had been using clipper on Doberman nails for years until I got Colt. Colt had black nails (expected since he was a black dog) but what I didn't expect was that the older he got the more reluctant he was to have his nails clipped--I thought that was pretty weird but I figured out that his quick grew right out with the nail shell and no matter how carefully I only trimmed little sliver of nail off he still basically cried through the entire process.

I got to talking about it with a friend and she pointed out that big dogs with nails like that it probably pinched the quick even though I was being careful to only slice off little slivers.

That was an AHA moment for me. We tested the theory and ground his nailes with a Dremel--and he was a dog who had never had his nails dremeled before. He didn't squeak, he didn't cry, he didn't try to jerk his paw away. I wasn't hurting him.

The following day I went out and bought him his own Dremel.

The only down side i know of involves furry dogs--I would not have been able to use a dremel on my Afghan Hound and even on the Aussie is was more trouble to arrange things (there are whole proceedures for dremeling hairy dogs) so I didn't end up wrapping his hair into the dremel. Easier to clip and nails were never kept as short on my hairy dogs.

Cats have tiny nails by comparison to dogs and the nails structure is a little different. For the record my cats--many of them over the years--HATE having their nails clipped but there is not way that you could even think about dremeling their nails--they'd be in the back bedroom packing their best blanket preparing to leave home before you even got through one foot.

Stick with clippers for cats. But I recommend dremels all the way for dogs.

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The only down side i know of involves furry dogs--I would not have been able to use a dremel on my Afghan Hound and even on the Aussie is was more trouble to arrange things (there are whole proceedures for dremeling hairy dogs) so I didn't end up wrapping his hair into the dremel. Easier to clip and nails were never kept as short on my hairy dogs.
And another thing--if you yourself have long hair, tie it back. Ask me how I know (well, actually don't).
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