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Ear cropping?

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Iím thinking of purchasing a new puppy but itís 4 months old. If itís cropped now, how long do I need to post?

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If it is cropped at 4 months old the ears are unlikely to stand. Why not purchase from a reputable breeder who has the ears cropped at the appropriate age?
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If it is cropped at 4 months old the ears are unlikely to stand. Why not purchase from a reputable breeder who has the ears cropped at the appropriate age?

Iíve read that itís a recommended age but not a hard set rule as each dog has different cartilage formation. That being said, I would be disappointed if the ears came out ďsaggyĒ as I feel one of the defining features are the ears.

Iíve looked at dcpa, AKC, udc, etc. and find it difficult locating a ďreputableĒ European dobie breeder.

If anyone has any referrals I would be happy to take them. I live in California but willing to drive to Nevada and arizona.

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Hi Usc! And welcome to DT from the Pacific NW

So... What greenkouki said ^^^ and then my 2 cents.

Dobermans are a special breed. They are breed apart. If you decide to brighten your life with a doberman puppy, you should study the breed and make sure this is the breed for you.

Then research quality, known breeders who have the betterment of the Doberman as a primary motivation. You can get help here with respect to what to look for in a good breeder and how to go about it

You will most likely have to wait for the right pup. And possibly pay more than you might have thought. It will be worth it.

I commend you for reaching out to the folks here. There is a lot of knowledge, support and camaraderie to be found here.

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Generally it is best if dobe puppies' ears are cropped between 7 and 9 weeks, and no later than 12 weeks. Unless your vet does a very very short crop (basically takes off most of the ear) with your 4 month old (at least 16 weeks) puppy (and those look terrible on a dobe's head) it is highly unlikely that you could get them to stand properly.

In my opinion, a dobe with his ears left natural looks much better than one whose cropped ears never stood properly--a "crop and flop" job.

A good breeder will have the puppies' ears cropped before he lets the new owners take them home. He doesn't leave it up to the buyer to try to find a good vet (cropping is an art as much as a skill, and there are not that many vets who can do a good job at it) He doesn't leave it up to the buyer to try to handle the aftercare of freshly cropped ears.

Did you ask the breeder why he didn't get the puppy's ears cropped??
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Thanks for all the replies.

I did read that it should be performed before 12 weeks but can vary dependent of each dog. That being said, I would be disappointed with a floppy ear.

Iím not certain why the breeder didnít crop but would imagine itís monetary. Cropping cost for several puppies can add up but I would consider it the cost of doing business.

I think Iíll seek out a different breeder. I really want the dog to have a proper cropping as itís part of its signature.

If anyone knows of a euro Dobermann breeder please pm info. Iím in California but willing to drive to Arizona or Nevada. Itís been challenging finding breeders.

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Don't be fooled by the "Euro" jargon. All that crap you read on crummy Euro breeder websites is really just smoke and mirrors to get you to buy one of their puppies. If you are looking for a reputable breeder there is currently a thread with information about breeders in your area. https://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...st-advice.html

Regardless of what you decide 4 months IS too late to have the ears cropped and this is a cropped and docked breed, and any breeder selling puppies uncropped is cutting corners to save money. Do not buy from someone cutting corners! You could end up with a puppy with a poor temperament and health problems later down the road.
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Why are you looking for a European Dobermann breeder. You know that in reality the only European Dobermann isn't even going to be found in the US? And most of what is advertised or claimed to be European is (at most) a product of sire and/or dam imported --this has become the most recent BYB attempt to attract buyers.

Most of what you see advertised as European should probably not even be used for breeding.

Have you had Doberman's in the past? What are the kinds of things you are looking for that attracts you to a "European Dobermann" ?

So much of what you see in advertisements for Euro Dobes is just so much hype and the breeders of lines that include European dogs of qreat quality are few and far between. And one of the very worst of Doberman puppy mills is using imports especially so they can advertise their dogs as "European".

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Hi Usc...

If you live in California and are willing to travel, you should check out breeders Oregon and Washington as well.

If you are willing to consider Pacific NW breeders, you could start here with a short DT thread from a couple of years ago. It might give you a jumping off point:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/northwe...est-coast.html

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