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So my male Doberman turns 6 months old in a couple days. I’ve heard generally speaking pups should be able to hold their pee 1 hour for every months old they are (so 6 months = 5-6hrs) he sleeps through the night perfectly fine but when he’s awake he wants to go out to pee every hour. He’s not marking yet. He doesn’t pee on walks but just when I first take him out the door. But he squats and pees a small amount (unless it’s after sleep/nap) I felt like his stream was kinda weak too so I took him to the vet and urinalysis came back completely normal. But we were also concerned bc he keeps aggressively chewing his penis! Vet just told us to make sure we keep his area clean and we just started on flea and tick meds in case that's why he's biting.
Anyways my main question is: is it normal for him to want to pee this often??

I feel like I’m a just a worry wart. But it would also be nice if we didn't still have to take him out every single hour of the day when he's awake 😂
I’ve made several health related questions on here 😅 for those of you that kept track of his previous issues, his poops are finally getting much better! Still no treats other than kibble & He had his anal glands expressed which was much needed and we have begun ever so slowly transitioning him to Victors Ocean Fish dog food.
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Hmmm, I don't know what to say since you did take him to the vet and the tests for any UTI came back normal? I, too, have a six month old male and I think it very unusual for him to urinate that much.
Maybe he just wants to go outside? If you don't let him out, does he go on the floor? The fact that he is chewing on himself is worrisome. Something isn't right. Is he drinking abnormally much?
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I wondered the same thing Cressrb--I think I've heard of puppies--not just males but puppy bitches too--who get so habituated to going out every hour that even when they really don't need to pee they want to be taken out every hour.

A lot of puppy males chew on their penis--one of my vet said it's common in puppies when they get to the point where they are actually starting to produce enough testosterone but don't know much about how those things work. Joey does this from time to time still--he going on 9 months now and does lift his leg--most of the time--started about three weeks ago. Seems to do the chewing on himself when he's bored or wants more attention than he's getting.

But if all of the in between urination's are a small amount I'd probably try not taking him out and watching him like a hawk to make sure he didn't then just pee on the floor. But I'd try to start extending the amount of time between letting him out to see if it's just become a habit (or sorts) to want to go out and pee every hour.

The fact that he can go for 6 hours (although most of my males with rare exceptions could go through an 8 hour night without having to go out at the age of your puppy.

Joey went out the last time at 10 pm and I got up at 6:00am and he was just under 6 months when his breeder loaned him to me--and he had no accidents and that was an 8 hour stretch. I took him out every couple of hours during the day--after breakfast and dinner and if he had been playing hard immediately after that--but he easily can wait for four hours or more between trips outside now.

Experiment a little making him wait longer than that hour...

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Thanks for the responses! I don't believe he just wants outside bc we take him on walks a lot to enjoy the sun ourselves during this COVID quarantine lol. I honestly don't know what he would do if I didn't take him out. He used to be very stubborn this way when we were potty training, if we weren't watching him like a hawk we'd hear him immediately go to the door and pace a couple times and pee. He's 95% potty trained with the exception of like 2-3 accidents in the last 2 months. So I'm not sure what he'd do. He doesn't show signs of wanting our needed more or less water.
He is VERY persistent though which is why I always cave and take him out. His "I need to go potty" thing Is walking back and forth from the door to us and just staring at us over and over until we take him out 😂
I do agree it very well could be an ingrained habit from early puppy hood though! Maybe I'll just revert back to the umbilical method when he acts like he wants to go outside (& when I know he shouldn't need to) and kinda press his boundaries as you suggested dobebug.
As for the chewing I only became concerned once I started seeing white lines on his penis from his teeth scraping on it 😬 those Dang shark teeth puppies have- luckily he's lost all but two now. I still stop him when he gets too aggressive with it.
And yes! We got really lucky with his nighttime pottys!! He was able to sleep through the night (6-8hrs) by around 3 months old.
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Does he have any bumps around or near his penis? Any redness? Our boy started lifting his leg a couple weeks ago. Maybe by squatting still he has a urine burn? Try giving him distilled water?
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Does he have any bumps around or near his penis? Any redness? Our boy started lifting his leg a couple weeks ago. Maybe by squatting still he has a urine burn? Try giving him distilled water?
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Haha I don't blame you I've thought of every reason in the world too😂 no bumps or lumps! No redness. He hasn't started lifting his leg but I've seen a lot of people say there's didn't start lifting until 9-12 months and some never did! So I'm not sure he's done it a couple times out of the blue but that's it. And he doesn't go low enough that his pee comes in contact with his skin. And we do give distilled water. Thank you for the comment though! I appreciate the ideas!
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I'd wonder if he simply isn't emptying his bladder?

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Hi Katlin , Mr. Business is our first male - and we had a lot to learn - lol Mr. B . would do some of the same things - go out and take 14 squirts and come in - I think that they are just learning the pretend marking thing , and or - they know its a way to go outside , they are that smart

I was going to ask if it was red around his dinger , but you said no - but I will ask if he lays in the grass much and maybe there is something going on there - or maybe it just feels good to him , beats me . Then there is the old saying I heard 100 years ago . You know why a dog licks themselves ?? Because they can

BTW - where are you located at ? Maybe its something eviro.

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Hi Katlin , Mr. Business is our first male - and we had a lot to learn - lol Mr. B . would do some of the same things - go out and take 14 squirts and come in - I think that they are just learning the pretend marking thing , and or - they know its a way to go outside , they are that smart [IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]

I was going to ask if it was red around his dinger , but you said no - but I will ask if he lays in the grass much and maybe there is something going on there - or maybe it just feels good to him , beats me . Then there is the old saying I heard 100 years ago . You know why a dog licks themselves ?? Because they can [IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/images/DobermanTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]

BTW - where are you located at ? Maybe its something eviro.

Good luck

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He could be possibly not emptying fully I’m not really sure.

And see that’s the thing! He doesn’t faux mark or anything he will only pee once each time he goes out, no more no less. He has never marked anything he just pees once in the same couple spots he always has bc we kinda spot trained him to pee in those two areas as we live in an apartment so outside grass & dirt are limited .. so he does that and that’s it until next time we take him out.
No laying in grass, if he is in grass he’s always on the move lol

I’m in Southern Cali so Dr said chewing may be environmental due to fleas so we started him on flea and tick meds, which may have caused a slight decrease in the overall monster chewing attacks. I’m not really sure though.

We have continued to re introduce umbilical method potty training when he acts like he needs to go out now, and we know he shouldn’t have to. To kinda reverse train him that he doesn’t need to go out every second of the day and so he realizes hopefully he needs to fully empty his bladder when he goes out if he is indeed holding it in.

I’ll continue this for a while and see if we gain any improvement! He’s still not fully potty trained anyways. He’ll go weeks without and accident and then out of no where with no attempt of his usually notifying us, to poop or pee on the floor *face palms* like a way to remind us he does what he wants still lol. Fingers crossed though! Thanks everybody for the questions and advice!
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He could be possibly not emptying fully Iím not really sure.

And see thatís the thing! He doesnít faux mark or anything he will only pee once each time he goes out, no more no less. He has never marked anything he just pees once in the same couple spots he always has bc we kinda spot trained him to pee in those two areas as we live in an apartment so outside grass & dirt are limited .. so he does that and thatís it until next time we take him out.
No laying in grass, if he is in grass heís always on the move lol

Iím in Southern Cali so Dr said chewing may be environmental due to fleas so we started him on flea and tick meds, which may have caused a slight decrease in the overall monster chewing attacks. Iím not really sure though.

We have continued to re introduce umbilical method potty training when he acts like he needs to go out now, and we know he shouldnít have to. To kinda reverse train him that he doesnít need to go out every second of the day and so he realizes hopefully he needs to fully empty his bladder when he goes out if he is indeed holding it in.

Iíll continue this for a while and see if we gain any improvement! Heís still not fully potty trained anyways. Heíll go weeks without and accident and then out of no where with no attempt of his usually notifying us, to poop or pee on the floor *face palms* like a way to remind us he does what he wants still lol. Fingers crossed though! Thanks everybody for the questions and advice!
When you go out to potty, do you go out and make him come right back in? As in, does "pottying" result in the "fun" of outside being over? Some smart dogs learn that they only get the fun of being outside when they "go potty" so they start holding it, or only going a little, so that they get more potty trips. What happens is that their humans take them out, they potty, they get their "potty party" but then...outside fun is over; they get taken back in. No time for exploring, no time for playing, no time for just being a puppy out there. And so...pretty soon, they don't fully empty because...it's FUN out there. And the only way to get out is to have to GO.

You might start making sure that when you go out, he gets to potty, you celebrate pottying, but then....stay outside. Let him explore. Let him be a puppy. Let him enjoy being outdoors. It's fun for puppies. Just have some play time. I'd also just give him more time to "go" again...as others have said, sometimes pups, especially boys, need to go multiple times. It's not really "marking" at this age, but some boys just do a bad job at emptying their bladder.
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