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question about puppies

Is there a way to know if the puppy is pure bred or not without papers ?
Like any specific signs or physical looks can guarantee that its pure or not !?

Thanks on advance. I have a picture of the puppy im asking about.
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Am talking european doberman.
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I've seen registered dogs that barely resemble the breed they are registered as. I've seen unregistered dogs that were pretty typical examples of their breed.

I would want to know why the puppy isn't registerable, especially if I was paying more than a modest rehoming fee.


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If this is from a breeder, and there's any doubt, I would walk away.

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There is no way to know if a puppy is purebred merely by looking at it.
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Im in southwestern ontario and im looking for a guard to be dog since im moving to the country.

I have a picture of the mom and dad and i want European dobie female as as i was told they excel males in guarding and protecting.

The seller is selling them for $900 i viewed them today but i cannot know if they are European or american.

How do i send pics here ?
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Well, for starters, in Canada, it's against the law to sell a dog as purebred if it can't be CKC registered, and the CKC doesn't recognize some foreign registrations, which means that dogs imported from those countries can't be registered. Which means that their puppies can't be registered, either.

For seconders, Dobermans aren't really "guard dogs". If you want a property guardian, then looking into livestock guardian breeds would probably be a better option.

Thirdly, their pedigree will tell you if they are North American line dogs or European line dogs. (Although some of the European show line dogs are obviously European show line dogs...)

The easiest way to post pictures is to use a third-party photo hosting site, like Flickr. https://www.dobermantalk.com/new-mem...ng-flickr.html
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That's a pet not a dog that should be bred.
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That's a pet not a dog that should be bred.
Why so? Co of the ears !!!
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Why so? Co of the ears !!!
I can't speak for the member you were talking to but for me the little you can see of the dog his conformation is not good. JMO
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Why so? Co of the ears !!!
It's easy enough to tell from the picture that that dog is not well bred. The head mostly, but there are a lot of things, not just the ears.
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Thank you for the input i appreciate it.
Would you like help to find a reputable breeder? We can make suggestions if you give a little more detail about your location and what you are looking for.
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Why so? Co of the ears !!!
Ears have nothing to do with the quality of the dog - the picture is a blurry picture of a sitting dog. The best I can do is to say that "yes, that looks like a Doberman"
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There is an add for puppies and i want experienced ppl to advice me about it. Im afraid if i post it here to violate the rules !? Help please.
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Please send a message to one of the moderators if you aren't sure. It's probably fine - we can remove it if it's a problem.
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I found it in kijiji. Can an admin msg me i cant find where is the private msg window.

I want a puppy european doberman and i want a trusted breeder in ontario.
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Would you like help to find a reputable breeder? We can make suggestions if you give a little more detail about your location and what you are looking for.
Yes please. Im moving to a farm and i want a puppy european doberman male.

I live in south western ontario.
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Excellent thank you for the info
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You are not likely to find a reputable breeder advertising on a site like Kijiji or Craigslist. In fact, Craigslist doesn't even allow pet sales, though people try sometimes.

We have a couple of threads about finding a good breeder--what you should look for; what questions you should ask--check these out:

How to Find a Responsible Breeder
https://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...e-breeder.html

This one has actual pictures of the documents you should be looking for. Don't just take someone's word that various tests have been run. Ask to see the paperwork
https://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...e-breeder.html

This one discusses some of the things dog breeders claim about their dogs that sound great, but don't really mean a whole lot.
"Champion Lines" and other red flags
https://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...red-flags.html

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Hi and thanks again for the info

Here is the ad I was asking about

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-dogs-puppies...rce=ios_social

I mean how can i trust someone ? Is there a vet record i can ask for or so?

And if you guys know a trusted european doberman breeder in southwestern ontario or few hours of driving distance please let me know.

I almost sent a deposit for “a breeder” in ottawa before i saw many posts about how scam they are , wew,

Thanks in advance.
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