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We have 2 dobermans from the same breeder, very reputable. One is 3 years old, male and around 90 pounds. Our puppy is 5 months old and hit 70 pounds. He isnít fat, gets lots of run time with the other 2 Dobermans and eats normal. What Iím looking at he is on the Great Dane growth chart lol! How big do you think he will be? He is not from a BYB I known this breeder for years now, he Is the brother of our oldest male thatís 90 pounds. We seen the father many of times he is around 90 pounds. And also know siblings over the years all around Doberman standard weight.

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120 lbs. is either fat or outside the AKC standard for male Dobermans. In addition, did the breeder advise you about same sex aggression?
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Any breeder willing to place a male puppy in a home with another young male dobe is questionable imo.
A 5 month old puppy at 70# is way outside the norm. I expect a large but well bred puppy to be maybe high 50something pounds at that age. An adult male over 100 pounds is oversized, coarse, or just plain fat.
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Where'd you guys get the 120 pounds stuff? Did I miss something?? Though I do see an edit by the OP, so maybe the text got changed between your reading and mine.

Anyway, Barbie, some bloodlines grow early; then their growth slows down or even seems to stop, and they end up a proper size. We can hope that is the case with your pup, because 70 is large for a 5 month old. Can your breeder tell you anything about whether her bloodlines mature early or late?

And do definitely look into same sex aggression--it is a real concern with dobermans. This thread has quite a bit about the issue.

https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...questions.html
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The original weight # for the sire was 120. Looks like it has been changed.
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I've run into enough puppies who are overweight at 5 months and their owners always insist the are not--that they are solid muscle and that's why they weigh what they do.

But on the other hand there are some puppies who might be 70 pounds, 5 months and not overweight. How tall is he?

I actually never judge size by weight alone--it can vary widely on puppies. I weigh and measure height regularly but even that is still really only guess work on final adult size.

And I generally know a lot about both sire and dam as far as size goes--both weight and height.

As an example you can take two puppies at the same age and if one is heavy boned and one is not, you find that there is a significant weight difference even though they may both "look" like they are carrying appropriate weight.

By the way--in the AKC Doberman Standard there is no such thing as a standard weight. And as for eatining normally--that isn't much of a criteria either. How much is your puppy eating per meal or per day and what are you feeding him.

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A really good example is a dog of mine who was from lines that tended to mature early. His first show was a 6-9 Puppy class. He was about 7 month and big (which was no surprise--both sides of his pedigree had breeding that tended to mature early. And it was very fortunate that there were a couple of puppies in that class with him who also came from lines that tended to mature early and who tended to be big. All of the puppies were in show weight and my dog was 28"--his competition was about the same size--one puppy was a little bigger--my dog ended up 28-1/2" at maturity. In that puppy class he weighted around 75 pounds and fully mature in working condition he was 85 pounds but when he was being shown in conformation he weighed about 90 pounds (to make up for his lack of maturity.

The puppy before him was probably more what you would expect from an average Dobe puppy--he was also from fast maturing lines but he was never going to be a big dog. His first shows were also in 6-9 Puppy and he was in the middle of the sizes in the ring--a couple of puppies bigger than he was and a couple of puppies smaller. At maturity he was just under 27", and in show condition he weighed about 78 pounds. When he finished his championship and started doing performance stuff we kept him at around 74 pounds.

Unless you know how tall your puppy is the fact that he is 70 pounds could mean nothing or it might mean, even though you don't think it's the case) that he's carrying more weight than he should.

If there is occasion to take him into your vet you might have a discussion about weight and how to tell if a dog is overweight or not.
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Who's the breeder? I ask not to dis them but often, and I mean OFTEN, ppl think they are working with a reputable breeder when they aren't. If you want you can private message me.
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Thank you for all the info your very kind. His height is right around 25 inches. He is 5 months and a week.
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