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How many of you have had any experience with a puppy with an UNDERbite. She is 4.5months old and it's about 1/8" I'm told. In your experiences, what're the chances they will grow out of it and if not, would this be noticeable to the novice eye, and more importantly, are there any long term effects to worry about if she doesn't grow out of it?

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Is she a pet or show prospect? An underbite is a serious issue in a show prospect puppy and likely will not get better- it could get worse.
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I don't have experience with Dobermans and with an underbite changing as they develop, but in a breed such as a Staffordshire Bull Terrier which I bred and show for many years, an underbite at that age would never improve and probably get worse.
IMO, that is awfully young to already be under. It is better than an even bite. But, either one could not be shown in conformation.
If you just want a pet companion and she is from good lines and health tested, it should be fine.

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She would be a pet/companion, not a show prospect. That is why they offered her to us since they know we are looking for a pet. I just didn't know if that typically leads to any problems with her bite, etc down the road. We are eager to get another but want to make a good decision, and are willing to wait.
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I've had one puppy in my 3 litters that developed an underbite AFTER the age of 6 months, at 6 months, she had an even bite. She was a puppy that I kept for awhile to grow out as a show prospect, and as soon as I saw the even bite, I sold her as a pet. The underjaw is one of the last things to finish growing so I knew that there was a good chance she would have an underbite. She will turn 10 in March and the underbite has not bothered her at all.
So a puppy that already has one at 4 1/2 months will most likely get worse in my experience. It's not an issue for a pet. Sometimes sh*t happens, and genetics throws a fastball.
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About how jaws grow in dogs. The upper jaw grows first so if the lower jaw is shorter than the upper jaw--don't panic yet--I've had (and I've had people bring me puppies to see what their mouth looks like) when there was a substantial gap between the upper incisors and the lower incisors and definitely NOT a scissors bite.

Keep checking the bite--if you've looked in the middle of a growth spurt and the mouth was correct earlier the chances are good it'll be correct again.

Dogs who are supposed to have scissors bites often during growth period end up with their mouths looking incorrect but end up with proper bite.

It's the dogs who are supposed to have even bites (Afghan Hounds ideally should have even bites according to their standard--almost none of them do--but the standard also says that a scissors bite is OK. Some of the breeds who are supposed to have an underbite (Boxers for one) who often end up with bad bites. Far too much of an underbite.

So is your puppy really undershot? If so the prospects of it correcting itself is slim--at best if it's really 1/8 inch undershot it might end up as an even bite. Which isn't any big deal as long is this wasn't a show prospect. Doberman's standard only has a few bad faults listed--three of them are mouth faults and all are disqualifying if out of the range listed in the standard for show purposes--over shot more than 3/16 of an inch, undershot more than 1/8th of an inch, missing 4 or more teeth.

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