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How to Keep a Puppy Still for Ear Posting?

Any tips on keeping a puppy still for ear posting. He always wants to get out, is this just a matter of exercising him more until he's really tired?
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I'm sorry here , I don't have a sure method on this Allmighty . What I have seen and done is that when you first start posting , all of ours have been antsy , requiring help . What I have found is to have somebody that the pup knows and is around a lot , like your wife or husband , somebody they trust - they are more relaxed to me . When I had outside help , they were always wanting to get to mom and lots more nervous .

Rememeber - they have had surgery and there ears will get itchy , trying to post will be like you trying to itch that itch , so they will shake there heads to help that itch .

Now with Kadin , for some reason , after the second or third time , he would sit on my lap and was a perfect little puppy , it may have been we had already made a strong connection between us . I have no idea about your situation , but they do make a bond with one over the other , your pup may be do better with one versus the other .

Sorry , not much help here , but with lots of patients , it should get better .

Best of luck !
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We always reposted at night, right around when either pup would start to nod off. A tired puppy makes reposting much, much easier.

Having a very high value treat during and after will help, as well
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I suspect your pup is real young........so this is what worked for me........
Initially for us it was a 2 person job........at 12 weeks of age for Hoss.
My husband would swaddle the puppy .......similar to swaddling a baby .......in a big sheet.........so all wrapped up nice and snug ..upright ......except for the head sticking out .......Husband hold pup upright ..............while I posted..........
Husband would actually sit in a real tall chair from our patio set...a chair that spins around.......so as the poster if I needed to reposition them I would just turn the chair .
This turning of the chair allowed pup and husband to stay in position..........
When we were all done with the posting event ........while still in the chair with my husband.......puppy provided high value treats ...............
Eventually .........we evolved to husband holding...with no sheet.........etc.....
Then evolved ......to the point of where puppy would just sit in my lap as I posted........
When pup bigger would sit in front of me .......
Pup will come to terms with posting through repitition.........so pup needs to learn......this is going to happen.......then pup will let you do your work.
Do not let pup get away from you.........they are smart ....and will repeat that behavior if you let them........
We use to prepare for posting........Pink Floyd ..........always the same song.........keeping the atmosphere nice an mellow as to not amp the puppy up.............so if your have kids etc...try to do when things are nice and quiet.....and mellllllllllow................


You cannot let them wiggle away.......once the escape you ......they will repeat ...repeat .......that behavior......
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As Falnfenix pointed out, a tired puppy is a must! Get someone who's experienced with ear posting to help you the first couple times. Be gentle (especially with removing the posts and cleaning off any residue). Give treats and say things like "good puppy". Massage the ears when you take the posts off to relax your puppy and let him know ear posting time is an affectionate bonding time. When all the tape is off and you're letting the ears air out, play some fun games, practice sit, shake etc!

Also, put him on a coffee table or grooming table if you have one.
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If I was posting one of my own puppies it usually meant I was posting alone--so--I would use a grooming table until I didn't have one because the moving company couldn't find it at the end of the move. After that I used a kitchen chair. The chair went into a corner--back and one side in the corner and I would sit beside the puppy and could kind of squeeze him into not moving--only took a couple of time for pups to learn that they were off the floor and most didn't want to try to get down. I'd have everything cut and ready, all tape, all posts made and as soon as I had both ears posted and the bridge--if I was using one-put in I would give a really high value treat and put the puppy down (I didn't let him jump down.)

And from the time I started posting I was also teaching a sit, a stay and a down. So by the time the puppy outgrew the chair I could put him on the floor between my knees and post the ears, give the treat and release the puppy.

Removing old posts was a reverse of the posting process with a break inbetween taking down and cleaning ears and putting them back up.

If I was working with an owner--they sat on the chair--held the puppy, learned that long noses on dogs are great for holding onto for keeping them quiet while posting. I'd have them take the posts down at home bring me the puppy with ears unwrapped and cleaned and if we need to swaddle the puppy in a towel the first few times we'd do that but usually by the third taping the puppy the owner and Ihad a working method.

Sometimes the puppy was tired but just as often he wasn't. The fact is a tired puppy often turned into a noodle and dissolved on the owners lap making it really hard to post--I decided long ago I'd just as soon have them alive and somewhat bouncy.

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I generally sit in a chair and put the puppy between my legs facing away from me. I use my legs to keep him straight in front of me and kind of wrap my feet around his chest to keep him from moving forward. That gives me free hands to work on his ears.

One thing that really helps is to have everything ready--all of your tape precut to length, post wrapped, and whatever materials you need right there within easy reach before you even start. I stick one end of the tape to something like a table and let it dangle down so I can grab it easily.
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Okay he's actually almost 7 months, his tips are kind of not straight, and I was using breathrite strips but I realized it's not strong enough. I know low chance of posting might help, but doesn't hurt to try eh? Unfortunately it's just me solo so I'll try and make him tired as a noodle and see if he's able to stay still. Although this guy has tons and tons of energy he always wants to play! Love the idea of playing the same song to get him used to it!

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Having everything ready is a great start and doing it at night is a great idea as well. I have them chew on a bully stick that's between my legs keeps them busy, not perfectly still but still enough for you to get them in. When you're by yourself you become super fast at posting. I can do both ears in under 30 seconds, if everything is prepped and I don't have a bridge. With a bridge I'm still under a minute.
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Okay he's actually almost 7 months, his tips are kind of not straight, and I was using breathrite strips but I realized it's not strong enough. I know low chance of posting might help, but doesn't hurt to try eh? Unfortunately it's just me solo so I'll try and make him tired as a noodle and see if he's able to stay still. Although this guy has tons and tons of energy he always wants to play! Love the idea of playing the same song to get him used to it!
7 months is still young - keep posting!

I have never been a fan of breathe rights, personally. I've had more success just continuing to post with regular posts until the ears are done.

I've always posted ears alone. I get all my supplies ready - get the posts ready, backtaped, etc. Get the strips of tape cut, and I just sort of "hang" them from the edge of the table. I sit on the floor with the puppy in front of me, the puppy's back to me, and just...get it done. Mine get used to it pretty fast. It doesn't hurt and I guess I just hold them pretty still. Sometimes we've taken a break between one ear and the next, but I'm also fairly quick at getting the ears posted, especially when you have everything ready to go.

I typically do it in two steps - get the old posts out, clean the ears, and let the pup go while they are drying out for 10-15 minutes, then corral the pup again to get new posts in. It doesn't take too long.

Keep it up - it'll be worth it!


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At the beginning I was petting him and giving him some treats. Now he got used to. He puts his head on my lap and stay still whenever he sees the posts.
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Yup ^^^

Once a Dobe becomes inured to posting, it turns into a wonderful bonding experience.

My boy's vet who very Doberman savvy, is aways amazed at how our dogs will accept and stand for any procedures. He, like I, attribute a lot of it to their early positive experience with all the physical manipulation during posting.

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Loved the "Pink Floyd"!
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