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Question Akiro pulls and barks loudly at any stranger

Hullo, I've got some questions!
I am 22 years old, blessed with my first Doberman puppy, a sweet boy now being 5.5 months old. He is so smart, loving, happy and outgoing in general - but there is this one issue I just can't seem to figure out. I've been trying to learn on youtube, puppy class finished, talking to loads of people, but nope. Being new to this site, I hope I do this right - I could really use some thoughts and advice from experienced doberman lovers, as you guys might have been through the same and perhaps got some tips and tricks up your sleeves.

OK, the problem - Aki barks and pulls, LOUD, at people and other animals. This happens mainly when he is on the leash and we take our walks. It can go pretty good if we are alone, but as soon as he sees a person (or even worse, another dog), he starts barking like a madman, pulling hard, and worst of all - completely forgets I exist! This happens 99% of the times, even though we had such great contact just seconds before.
The tricks I learned in puppy class and on youtube does not help. Candy or toys as distractions are not interesting for him at the moment he barks and fixates on something, and making him sit and look at me before he spots the distraction is also pointless, for as soon as the person gets close he just loses it anyway.
I just can't seem to get any response from him when this happens, even if we are far away. He will not look at me, or hear me. It takes ages for him to calm down, and even when he finally stops barking, he usually starts whining instead. Like a really heartbreaking whine too, it sounds like he is super scared and upset. But there is no obvious reason why? I try desperetly to calm him down but it still takes long time for him to do so, sometimes he won't stop until we get home.
I get this might just be a time issue and he will grow outta it, but he has been doing this for 3 months now with no progress? I am scared it might continue for so long that I will no longer be able to hold him off at all since he grows bigger every day.
Is this normal behaviour for a european doberman puppy? Is he just being protective, or actually scared, and how to fix something like this? Anyone out there got any tips? Please help!
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Well first off...welcome to our forum.
Normally the first thing we do is welcome you and bug you for pictures!!!!
Anyway.......my dog Hoss ...he is 3 years old now ...but I had similar issues.
As new owners to a doberman ...its natural to want to take them for a walk.......after all they are our pride and joy.
But sometimes pups are not mature enough yet to handle all the excitement out there in the big world.
I asked for help on this forum and was turned onto a training book called ...B.A.T. 2.0 by Grisha Stewart
this was a great read for me........gave me a better understanding of whats going on inside a dogs head during interactions .........having a better understanding .....allowed me to make better decisions on how to deal with things "in the moment" ......below is a summary about this book......I got mine on Amazon........

Behavior Adjustment Training 2.0: New Practical Techniques for Fear, Frustration, and Aggression in Dogs
by Grisha Stewart

"Empower your dog to gain confidence and social skills

With BAT 2.0, trainer/author Grisha Stewart has completely overhauled Behavior Adjustment Training (BAT) to create a new efficient and practical tool for dog reactivity. BAT 2.0 builds resilience and self-reliance by giving dogs safe opportunities to learn about people, dogs, or other "triggers." Clear enough for all readers to follow, this book also includes technical tips and bonus chapters just for dog behavior professionals.

Learn how to:
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Apply Grisha's BAT philosophy to all dogs and puppies...and get your life back!"

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Do you have a trainer you can work with for one on one help?


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My first recommendation would be a good, experienced trainer and some one on one sessions. You definitely need help with training and the dog--I can make some guesses but mostly you need to learn how to do attention exercises and not let your dog engage (no matter how far away the dog or person is).

Rosemary has offered suggestions about on line classes for a large variety of problems like this and more classes with a trainer and other dogs would also be helpful in the long run.

One of the things I see people do with puppies (which amounts to shooting themselves in the foot for future problems) is they let young puppies play wth other dogs while on leash and interact with no restraint with humans the same way. If there is anything that is universally true it's that you do NOT want to let your Doberman puppy do anything you don't want them to be doing as adults.

It may be very cute when a 10 week old puppy drags you over to see another dog or human but it isn't at all cute when they weigh 50 or 60 pounds and try to do the same thing and do a lot of vocalizing as they do it.. It'll be even worse at 18 month and they weight 80 or 90 pounds and are still barking because they want to do something tat you don't want them to do.

More classes will give you an opportunity to get help from the training on how to handle pulling (one thing that helps is to have a dog who heels) In a class where the dogs are not allowed (or shouldn't be allowed) to interact while on leash is helpful. A trainer in a class where a dog is barking at other dogs an people will be able to see what the trigger is and help you stop it. And most important a training will be able to help you teach the dog some self control and stop the barking.

There a number of people who have been working with young dogs and puppies who will add to suggestion on how to deal with these problems.

Fortunately your puppy is young and continuing training will help a lot but it takes time and perservence.

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I would say what you're describing is a lot of "leash reactivity", if it's happening mostly when your pup is on leash, because he's frustrated by the restriction of the leash. Being restricted by a leash really interrupts normal canine interaction, and it can cause a lot of frustration for dogs, and we have to teach them appropriate behavior. Some dogs have a much harder time than others do. You may also be seeing some anxiety or shyness or something else at play - it's hard to say without seeing the puppy in person. Either way, the same skill set can be helpful.

Kikopup has some great videos on leash reactivity - this one is a start, but you can find other free videos she has, or you can subscribe for a really low fee and search all her videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-L2qtD7MQ

The Fenzi Academy online has a reactive dog class that would also be great - it has a lot of tools for leash walking for dogs that have the same issues you're dealing with. https://www.fenzidogsportsacademy.co...p/courses/7467
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