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4 Month Doberman Puppy Walks Weird

My 4 month doberman puppy walks kind of weird, his butt sways left to right while walking almost as if his rear legs are longer than the front. Is this normal? He doesnt bunny hop when running and doesnt seem to limp or be in pain. He loves to jump on things too, sits normally, likes to stand up and put his paws on my bed (because he wants to get up on it). I know maybe he might not be in pain yet, but just wondering what this might be. I'll post a vid up asap. When he was around 8-10 weeks I did not notice this, but gradually as he got taller I've noticed it almost as if he walks like Captain Jack Sparrow. He is 16 1/2 weeks now. Hopefully you experts can point me in the right direction.
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I'll be interested to see a video. I always worry about hips when I hear of a dog walking like that.

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I wonder if he is just pacing. Both legs on one side moving in the same direction rather than meeting each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ShnyjOdQw
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Good catch, MaryD....I hadn't thought of that possibility. They do sway back and forth quite a bit when they pace. Mine tended to do it when they were tired on a long walk.

But OP, you should get your pup checked out if you're at all worried about his gait. There are some leg problems that show up as a puppy grows (front legs knuckling over is one I can think of right off the top of my head)...some of them are relatively easy to treat when the puppy is young, but not fixable when the dog is mature.
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Short vid, looks like hes leaning more right in this one but generally his butt goes left to right no preference.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a8vj7FAYqfSips8g6
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Puppies like colts grow up in the rear first. So at various growth periods puppies (and colt) will be substantially higher in the rear than in the front--it will affect their gait. I'll go back and see if I can figure out what he's doing--since I'm at the library and can actually see videos.

I don't think he's pacing--but it's sure a sloppy walk and sometimes puppies are lazy and the walk is kind of a lazy gait anyway. See if you can get someone to take a picture of him going away at a nice crisp trot, That'll tell you more than a walk will.

An awful lot of puppies don't have enough muscle at 16 weeks to make any of their gait's look good.

If I was really concerned I'd have his vet take a good look at him moving away and toward and across at a trot the next time he was at the vet clinic for anything. I don't think I'd make a special appointment just to do that.

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He has a lot of growth on him at 4 months! Great reach with that right rear leg to scratch that itch!
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What I'm seeing now that your video is posted doesn't look horribly worrisome right now. Like Bug said, point it out to the vet when you see him next. You could even bring a little cell phone video to show the vet if you don't think you can actually get the pup to demonstrate his walk during your appointment (sometimes dogs get so hyped up at the vets they don't act as they normally do. Like that's a surprise.) If you decide to bring pictures, try to take the video from all angles--side, front and rear shots--as he moves.

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I'd keep an eye on it and like Bug said, have the vet look at it. Would love to see him moving away at a faster clip and a little longer. Maybe see if someone can move him for you.
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Update:

Took him to the Vet where they examined him, and felt his bones/joints. Everything checked out okay, we did some walking up and down the hall but the Vet didn't even notice anything strange? He still has that weird sway from left to right when he walks tho; rear legs do seem longer than front would be a guess on my part.

I will be keeping an eye on this. For some reason now that I have a doberman puppy everything worries me!
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I just looked at all of the videos. I wish you'd get someone else to do the camera work so that you could take that puppy and have him trot while the videographer get lower down so you could see the feet and legs better than the top of the dog. And I'd really like to see pictures from the side.

Here's what I think--I think this is a gangly puppy who is most often moving at a speed that is basically just a little faster than a fast walk and not quite right for a trot. And it looks like he has managed a gait that is midway between the two gaits.

Look at what his feet are doing--half the time he starts off moving both legs on the same side together (and this would be characteristic of a pacing dog--AND I think it's what makes his gait look so funny) but as he speeds up, just before he breaks into a gallop (a canter really) he managed to get his feet moving so that he is trotting.

At the very beginning of this thread I said a lot of puppy are really sloppy walkers--and he fits that description--so you see this dumb looking half gait which I don't think is evidence of anything other that young, puppy, not well muscled moving half way between two gaits so you see his rear swing back and forth (left to right).

I'm going to fall back on my explanation for a lot of stuff you see in young dogs. He's a puppy--ever watch little kids walk when they have just started walking--puppies, kids--they all look uncoordinated. But I don't think there is really anything wrong with his structure. Keep asking the vet about it whenever you see him--he'll tell you if he sees something wrong.

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^^^ Dobebug saw what I saw.

It's almost like his front isn't moving simultaneously with his rear. What I mean is he goes in and out of pacing. The only way to do this without a little skip/hop is if the front and the rear aren't moving simultaneously. I think it's kind of funny lol. I also think it's just a puppy thing that he'll out grow. Puppies don't tend to know their rear end from a hole in the wall, especially the boys. I spent a better part of 8mo. working my male trying to get him to figure out that he had a rear lol.
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Thanks to you both for the feedback. I have to say I love these forums and I really do appreciate your guy's/gal's expertise/feedback. It really helps, truly does. Thanks once again. I will try to get more side angle videos for further analysis. I am always eager to share and get insight here (I honestly would rather come here than go to the vets). I really do love this dog sooo much he's like my baby. This has become my one and only go to forums I have so much questions to ask I always feel shy but I'm feeling a lot more confident now to ask for everyone's pov.

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^^^ Dobebug saw what I saw.

It's almost like his front isn't moving simultaneously with his rear. What I mean is he goes in and out of pacing. The only way to do this without a little skip/hop is if the front and the rear aren't moving simultaneously. I think it's kind of funny lol. I also think it's just a puppy thing that he'll out grow. Puppies don't tend to know their rear end from a hole in the wall, especially the boys. I spent a better part of 8mo. working my male trying to get him to figure out that he had a rear lol.
Yes! If I worried about how almost any puppy I've ever owned moved at 16 or 18 weeks I'd never have shown them.

I thought from the first video it was just a puppy thing and from the most recent video's I'm pretty sure that's all it is.

He's also fairly long (maybe a stage or maybe not)--and that, with how loose and gangly he is all contribute to that sloppy gait that looks pretty weird from the rear.

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I also think he might be pacing, but it's hard to get a good look from the video. I don't see anything glaringly wrong, either.

(As an aside, in that last video, the dog he stops to look at is giving him a pretty hard, long stare - I would recommend not stopping to let him stare back...he's a puppy now, but that can start being a big problem for you later on - encourage him to look away and keep on moving!)


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Our 3 mo old pup walks like this as well. I think it could be clumsiness, but I notice your pups hind legs are a bit bowed, as are our Alex’s. We’ve only had him a week and switched to taste of the wild puppy kibble. His shine and softness of his coat has improved so much. I’m hoping the better food will get him the correct amount of nutrients he needs so he grows out of the bowed legs. His front are only very slightly knuckled over. Again I hope diet corrects this. I’m going to give him vitamin c as well since I read a few vets recommended that.

Been doing a lot of research too, lol. Glad I’m not the only one. Plenty of people suggest adult food with lower protein, but I read a column from a dog nutritionist that had cited clinical studies showing that high protein does not cause knuckling or bowed legs. To a non expert person like myself, lower protein makes sense, but it simply isn’t true to the data. He said to keep on high protein, quality puppy food for all the other ingredients that a puppy needs.he suggested large breed, but from what I’ve gathered TOTW is great for large breed even though it isn’t specific for them only. The main thing that causes bowing is nutrient imbalance and access weight or over excursion/running. Alex was the biggest by a small margin but definitely the chubbiest, so I’m trying to lower is body fat a little by not overeating and giving carrots as snacks instead of treats. Hopefully that baby ball of pudge on his chest burns off a bit and the tuck of his belly becomes more pronounced with less fat on the ribs. That’s my 2 cents and my very first post. I have gotten a lot of insight from this page. Glad I signed up

It’s been a couple months, so I’m wondering if you have an update?
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I don't think I'd try to limit calories on a growing puppy as young as yours by purposely substituting veggies, etc to his kibble. If you feed a good kibble, it should be balanced with the correct nutrient ratios and ingredients to grow a healthy mature dog. But there are more folks here with a lot more experience in raising pups to healthy adulthood--they're in a better position than I am to talk about what kibbles have worked for them.

You might want to start a new thread with your questions, given that, as you said, this is an older thread.

You could even copy over the text of your post to start your own thread...just edit it a little to take out the specific references back to this discussion.


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