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Yukky!

You might consider ordering your food online...I've had a lot of luck with Chewy.com, though they were fairly recently bought by PetsMart, so I don't know if that's going to change as time goes on.

Anyway, their prices are as good or better than the local box stores and they ship orders over $49 free...which most dog food bagged in doberman quantities are.

I've had a soft spot for them ever since they sent me flowers after Kip died (I had called them to cancel an order and explained why). That was before Petsmart acquired them, but still....
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I've had a soft spot for them ever since they sent me flowers after Kip died (I had called them to cancel an order and explained why).

That’s a class act right there !

I also use chewys , had a question on something and it was on a Sunday , I called , and they answered , the guy I talked to didn’t have the answer either , said he would find out and call me back , about 5 minutes later , I got a call from them with a complete answer , can’t beat that
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Yeah Im thinking of switching from PPP back to TOTW. 1 because his stools havent been too hard lately. Secondly because the first bag of PPP I got was full of weevils once I got through like 1/4th of the bag I noticed it. Worms/Black bugs in his food bowl. Second bag I got was fine for a month, but now Ive noticed worms coming out from the bottom corner creases of the bag. Im not sure if they were in there from the beginning or was introduced somehow but they looked like meal moth worms that ate their way out. Never seen these bugs in my life. Its from the local petco but my TOTW bag never had any gross insects so will be switching back. Might just go with the smaller sized bags.

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Eeeeuuu!!! Bugs! Well I know they look disgusting but a nutritionist told me one time that certain areas of the county have a really hard time keeping kibble bug free and that frankly the moth larva and miscellaneous other larva really only constitute additional protein. (I know but I return bags of food if I find living things in it.) I also check best buy dates to find the one with that date at least a year out.

And from information on storage of foods that have a lot of cereal or are all cereal (like flour or any kind) ALL food with a high amount of cereal grains will also contain insect eggs--if the food remains DRY or COLD (as in freezer cold) the eggs don't hatch but warm damp climates they do and you'll see weevels and/or larva in the food if it takes much time to use it--smaller bags help and checking best buy dates help but all of the bigger manufacturers will take food back for full credit.

I know a woman who found that in Florida every time she bought a big bag of kibble she ended up with larva/weevels in it by the time she was half way through the bag (30-35 pound bags--that took her dogs about a month to eat). She had a freezer with extra room and started breaking new bags of food into four containers--three went in the freezer and she fed from the one that wasn't in the freezer--stopped the problem for her.

Good luck though--Hawaii is kind a prime climate for growing insect life in food stuff...

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Whoops, just noticed you were in Hawaii. I don't think Chewy ships there. And I must say, just looked at reviews and it appears the Petmart acquisition has hurt the Chewy's service and prices.

Guess you'll just have to move to the mainland.
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Whoops, just noticed you were in Hawaii. I don't think Chewy ships there. And I must say, just looked at reviews and it appears the Petmart acquisition has hurt the Chewy's service and prices.

Guess you'll just have to move.
Interesting that you've seen that, Mel...I've still had truly excellent service and great prices at Chewy, and I've seen lots of friends still getting very nice notes, flowers, etc from Chewy when dogs have passed away, and that kind of thing. I've noticed zero changes from the buy out by Petsmart and am really happy with Chewy.


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That's good to hear...I remember a cost increase when they were taken over, but it was at the same time Hill's (I think it was them) discontinued their kangaroo prescription dog food that Kip, the allergic dog needed, and Royal Canin became the supplier. So I don't know for sure how that factors in. I just remember a BIG jump in price. But still very much cheaper than my local vet.

I do still go to Chewy first if I'm going to order pet things--they have a wider range of products than your typical petsmart/petco, but the impulse buy at the pet store remains a large part of my pet budget.
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Eeeeuuu!!! Bugs! Well I know they look disgusting but a nutritionist told me one time that certain areas of the county have a really hard time keeping kibble bug free and that frankly the moth larva and miscellaneous other larva really only constitute additional protein. (I know but I return bags of food if I find living things in it.) I also check best buy dates to find the one with that date at least a year out.

And from information on storage of foods that have a lot of cereal or are all cereal (like flour or any kind) ALL food with a high amount of cereal grains will also contain insect eggs--if the food remains DRY or COLD (as in freezer cold) the eggs don't hatch but warm damp climates they do and you'll see weevels and/or larva in the food if it takes much time to use it--smaller bags help and checking best buy dates help but all of the bigger manufacturers will take food back for full credit.

I know a woman who found that in Florida every time she bought a big bag of kibble she ended up with larva/weevels in it by the time she was half way through the bag (30-35 pound bags--that took her dogs about a month to eat). She had a freezer with extra room and started breaking new bags of food into four containers--three went in the freezer and she fed from the one that wasn't in the freezer--stopped the problem for her.

Good luck though--Hawaii is kind a prime climate for growing insect life in food stuff...

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Makes sense since my TOTW bag had no Bugs at all and it's Grain-Free. Hawaii does have that warm damp climate so I'm assuming that's why I didn't see it initially when I was like searching through the bag. I just ordered a Doggy Food Container which I will be pouring out all my food in. When I talked to Petco they told me it was the warehouse conditions and it happens.

I'm now considering grabbing this food
https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcos...dp-ingredients

It was on the DogFoodAdvisor's Top Grain Inclusive List (4/5 Stars) The other brands I their Top list are not in stock at Petco.

If I do find any bugs in there it just might be the way it is. The problem I have with the bugs is introducing it to my house, and plus they look nasty. I was moving the Dog Bag and all these worms were dropping out from the side creases. It was disgusting picking them up since their so small you have to use your fingernails through a paper towel. I'll let you guys know. I was digging through the bag with a scooper and saw alot of worms could be in the hundos. Maybe it's just a PetCo thing here. I'm thinking most of the PetStores here might use the same distributor since the Island is so small, but I really wouldn't know the logistics of how dog food is delivered.

Will be trying the Canidae 30LB BAG. Keeping the Receipt this time. PetCo will exchange the bag but I need the receipt. If I find bugs I guess I'll try to find another Store or go Grain-Free.
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Here's a tip for you about storage of kibble--if you are going to put in a container without the bag make sure that every time you empty the container you also wash it out thoroughly with hot soapy water--otherwise you can easily end up with eggs in the container that will contaminate the next batch of food.

I'm not sure that trying to go grain free will solve the problem--although cereals are the biggest attractor of insect there are other things that will attract insects--some insects look for protein rather than carbs. Just keep checking for the bags with the longest best buy dates--those will be the ones that have been in storage (either at the distributer or store) the shortest period of time.

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I agree with Bug - you live in a warm, humid climate, the perfect recipe for attracting bugs. I'd buy smaller bags of food and store the food in the original bag, in an airtight container.


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Something to think about her boys and girls

One time we got a new bag of dog food at a east side Indy pet store , believe this or not , it was the closest one = 25 miles . Well we opened it up and the dogs ate good , then the next day when I fed them , they did not want to eat it , smell it , then walk away , well empty tummy’s won and they ate it , then with in minutes , both dogs were throwing it up , wife went to thedog food bag and smelled it , then she about puked , said Ken , this food is spoiled ! It was a big name company , Ken was pizzed and called the pet store and told them what had happened and I was on my way up there with the bag , when I got there , they had pulled all this brandsfood off the sleeves , I walked in and sat the bag down and had to hear how sorry they were, I told the manger to smell it , then he said , I trust what your saying , I didn’t let up till he did and then he about puked . Lol

I was still pizzed the next day and called the company headquarters , I got a very nice lady , and she was very up front , she said we take pride in there foods , yet ! When it leaves our factory , then it’s out of our control ,they’d had two facilities , one in CA . And one in TN ,our food came out of CA . ! The plant inTN was only 5 hours away ! But heck no , they shipped it from CA = stupid people! What they had found out was it was shipped in a refer trailer which is climate controlled and then off loaded to a transfer drop in KS to then be loaded on to another truck for Indiana , this is were the problem was, it sat in a wear house with 100 + degrees for 4 days and the temp change caused it to spoil , lmao

This dumb stuff seems to only happen to us , but then where ole Doc get stories to type
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