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Ear Posting not going too well?

Hi Everyone! I got lots of advice on my last thread and I really appreciate it!
My pup - Boss is doing way better behaviour wise after the advice I got here.
This is why I am posting yet again - sorry!
I am having troubles with his ear postings.
1 - he either does not like them or something bothers him : he constantly shakes his head and scratches the posting with his paws and make them pop out and so the posting gets cricked and well, his right ear doesnt stand properly.
2- i do not know what am i doing wrong - I believe i am doing it right as I was shown by experienced people but I can't be sure at this point. Before it did not bother him like it does now.. no he does not have an ear infection that's for sure!
3 - I am not certain if i do need to post a bridge with his ear but i guess i should? as the ear make a triangle when he focuses on something or listening...
4- sometimes they do stand well, and sometimes do not - I can't tell why

Hope you guys can help me out! I use the tampon method or the popsicle stick (i do not know what to call it haha! ) it seemed good so far but as I said, sometimes it is better and sometimes worse.

Photos will show what I am talking about, although i do not seem to have a good picture of how the ears are posted...
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Tampons are too big. You should try the backer rod method with 3/8" rod. I have posted a how to for using backer rod and it is at the very top of the ear cropping and posting section here on DT. You will need to use "bumpers" on each post since both of his ears are tilting in over the top of his head.
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I agree with @greenkouki . Switch to backer rod, use a bumper to get rid of that pocket, don’t use vet wrap(can’t tell via picture if it’s vet wrap or colored tape)and I would say no to the brace, the reason the ear falls over the head is because he has a pocket. Also, the best advice I’ve ever received with posting is to pull up on the ear while pushing the back rod down into the ear, basically the ear should be up as far as you can get it before attaching it to the post.
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Tampons are too big. You should try the backer rod method with 3/8" rod. I have posted a how to for using backer rod and it is at the very top of the ear cropping and posting section here on DT. You will need to use "bumpers" on each post since both of his ears are tilting in over the top of his head.
Thank you ! I did see the post and i will get the things today and try to post it that way!
Could you just clarify to me the bumpers? I read that they go owards the head and inside the ear. I just wanted to ask uf the bumper should be placed where the ear usually bents over or tilts?
I wish somebody could show me so I could see what I am doing wrong
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I agree with @greenkouki . Switch to backer rod, use a bumper to get rid of that pocket, donít use vet wrap(canít tell via picture if itís vet wrap or colored tape)and I would say no to the brace, the reason the ear falls over the head is because he has a pocket. Also, the best advice Iíve ever received with posting is to pull up on the ear while pushing the back rod down into the ear, basically the ear should be up as far as you can get it before attaching it to the post.
definitely switching to that method. It is just a hockey tape with some design on it. The white tape gets sooo dirty with this guy within minutes lol it also holds it a bit nicer than just the white tape itself.

I put the ear in either 10am or 2pm position, put the posting in and stretch the ear while straightening it up. Every time it is his left ear that bothers him so much no matter what i try
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definitely switching to that method. It is just a hockey tape with some design on it. The white tape gets sooo dirty with this guy within minutes lol it also holds it a bit nicer than just the white tape itself.

I put the ear in either 10am or 2pm position, put the posting in and stretch the ear while straightening it up. Every time it is his left ear that bothers him so much no matter what i try
My dog doesn't have cropped ears, but I have seen it suggested here before that when pups shake their posts a lot it can mean that they aren't quite as far down as they could be. I believe some folks here taper the ends (similar to a pencil tip I think) of the backer rod, and sort of twist the post down into the ear canal while stretching the ear up. You could also try padding the bottom of the post a little with a tiny amount of cotton square - maybe the movement of the post is irritating him somewhere.

There is a thread somewhere around here by user Chesa that discusses a lot of posting issues she had with her pup - you should check that out, and definitely keep looking at GK's tutorial posted in the "ear posting" section. From what I heard, that's about the best tutorial around.

It would probably be helpful also if you could snap some photos next time you post him up of the steps you take in posting, and how the posts look after they are done. That will probably help people help you better.

Can't help with the bumpers, as I've never actually posted ears....

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The reason the posts keep coming out is because the tampons (or tampon applicators) are too large in diameter and won't go down far enough in the ear. This is why I suggested 3/8" backer rod. It does look a little bit small but it will be the right size for your puppy until he's about 4 months old.

As for the bumpers, it is a little bit hard to explain the placement on the post and the orientation (rotation). You don't want the bumpers facing all the way towards the middle of the head, you want them slightly forward to push on the part of the ear where the "pocket" has formed. Putting the bumper against this will push out the pocket and correct the tilting over the head problem. It's easy to tell when you have it in the right spot because once the ears are posted, no matter how much he tries to put his ears up they won't go past 90* perpendicular to the top of his skull, they will be just tilted slightly out. For that severe ear tilt I would use a FULL section of 3/8" rod not a 1/2 section as I used in my ear posting tutorial.

I do agree that it would be best if you can find a knowledgeable doberman person to help you post his ears, especially for the bumper part of it. Even a lot of show people don't know how to fix ears tilting in over the head though, so you might be on your own. Thankfully your puppy is young and you do have some time for a learning curve. As long as you keep them in posts you won't do irreversible "damage" this early on.
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Most likely his left ear is bothering him because you arenít getting the post just right, I also struggle to get one the same as the other....probably has to do with hand dominance, more dexterity on one side vs the other. Switching to backer rod will probably help with this, I saw someone mention trimming the base of the post so that it tapers, I also do this because itís more comfy and it helps get the post down a little deeper. Although, I wouldnít make it as extreme as a pencil, maybe more like a well worn pencil eraser.

Pockets....if you feel the fur side of your pups ear, where it meets the skull, right where it falls over the head, you should feel a soft ident. Thatís the pocket and your bumper should go adjacent to that on the other side of the ear with the post. You want to push that indent/pocket and get that part of the ear stronger so it wonít collapse on itself. Keep posting with a bumper for awhile, even if you think the pocket is gone.
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