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Doggie/Baby gate recommendations

We have been using our kitchen as a play area for Loki - his day time crate is in one doorway to a room just off the kitchen and blocks access in that direction and we had a dog gate on the other entrance.

He'll play soccer with a big ball or play kill the stuffies and sometimes in his exuberance he will crash into the gate (OK, maybe typically will skid to a halt and often crash in the gate).

Last night after one too many crash tests, the bottom metal in the gate door failed, but the gate was still operational. This morning after yet another crash, the top "hinge" failed and the "door" is now removable. We can still attach it sort of, but would like recommendations for a gate that will survive dobe charges until he grows out of this phase or we can trust him to roam free throughout the house. The entrance is a non-standard 39.5 inches/

In the mean time, since Loki is apparently part cow or goat based on his desire to graze, I wondered if we could convince him that the door of the gate when laying on the floor was actually a "dog/cattle/goat" guard (OK not sure if there are goat guards).

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Hi Loki - Mr. Handsome boy.


https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...dog+baby+gates

^^ Some examples...
- we just never setup baby gates, in our house / so can't comment, on a preferred product

Photo reminds me of our former Amy, that was only crated sparingly for 2.5 months / and clever enough, to escape a locked door once (while adults at work).
- but nothing harmed / so at 4.5 months young...she was given free house reign, unsupervised

PS - Loki looks pretty proud, of himself......the gate, has been defeated.

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aww, he didn't do anything wrong. At least that is the message he is giving me.
I can't give any advice with baby gates either. They can be deadly to humans I discovered.
Many years ago trying to keep a puppy confined, I tried hopping over one while talking on the phone.
It didn't end well for me.
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Ripley had a lightweight gate fall right next to where she was playing when she was tiny. She actively avoided them after that.

When did he do this - were you home at the time?

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I wondered if we could convince him that the door of the gate when laying on the floor was actually a "dog/cattle/goat" guard (OK not sure if there are goat guards).

I'm impressed ! My guess is that many would know what your talking about there - it sure is funny - Cows come right up to them - but won't cross them
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aww, he didn't do anything wrong. At least that is the message he is giving me.
I can't give any advice with baby gates either. They can be deadly to humans I discovered.
Many years ago trying to keep a puppy confined, I tried hopping over one while talking on the phone.
It didn't end well for me.

Didn't end well huh ? Was that for the gate - or - or - did Cressrb have a few bad words to say getting up off the floor ?
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Love the look on your pups face....it's like he is looking at you and saying "Really"......now what???
These pups learn so fast .....once is no good for sure ...twice ..easily becomes a habit for Dobes........whatever you set up next ...must never.... ever fail......

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I wondered if we could convince him that the door of the gate when laying on the floor was actually a "dog/cattle/goat" guard (OK not sure if there are goat guards).

I'm impressed ! My guess is that many would know what your talking about there - it sure is funny - Cows come right up to them - but won't cross them
I did my undergrad in Oregon, and spent summers doing field work and I was always amazed at how cows would not even cross the ones that were just painted on the road!

The doggie guard idea worked for a bit until the twins (11yo) kept crossing it and he hopped over following them. Once we have done a better job puppy proofing the main living area, we will start to let him roam more while supervised. We have a rose-breast cockatoo, Aryia, whose cage is also in that living area right around the corner from that gate. So far he has never barked or shown any interest in her and has been great about walking around her cage (but will if we do not catch him try to get any dropped food!) Our old Weimaraner, Troy, had free range and the parrot was fine, but he was 12 when we got Aryia.
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Ripley had a lightweight gate fall right next to where she was playing when she was tiny. She actively avoided them after that.

When did he do this - were you home at the time?
We were home in the morning when the door came unhinged at the top. It may a fairly loud clanking noise right near him when it fell that really surprised/spooked him. He has been very cautious about approaching the door if it is not connected back to the gate.
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We were home in the morning when the door came unhinged at the top. It may a fairly loud clanking noise right near him when it fell that really surprised/spooked him. He has been very cautious about approaching the door if it is not connected back to the gate.

Lean the door up ......see what happens......
Hoss has a piece of crate fall on our wooden floors once...scared him.....now we no longer use the crate but use the crate pieces as door blocks... he will not get near them.......if his toys get near them ..he will bark for help........he wants nothing to do with those wire things that are blocking the door.........
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We have this gate: https://www.drsfostersmith.com/produ...6&pcatid=26306. It's metal and it sort of "locks" into place. Sypha was the puppy who crashed right through the first gate we used, climbed the second gate, and had ZERO problem with gates falling - she thought it was FUN! (Richter was terrified when a gate fell when he was a pup and has had a healthy respect for gates ever since).

This gate is pressure mounted and if you do a good job of getting it tight to the wall it seems to be pretty sturdy. That said, I would recommend doing a LOT of work actively training your pup to respect the gate - no jumping on it, no paws on it, etc. Teach your pup to sit calmly to be let through the gate, etc. Good luck!


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Our Dobes RESPECT the Baby Gates!!

We raised Spock from a pup with regular expandable type baby gates and never had to fix in place, just set and lean against furniture. When he young tyke, the impression of a baby gate falling down, making a loud racket once, was enough for him to earn respect for the almighty baby gate!

We have one on steps to second floor, which is carpeted so we only allow them upstairs when supervised. He never has challenged the baby gate except on one occasion. This was once when dumb Spocksdad decided to play tug of war with Eva and NOT include Spock, who was observing from behind a baby gate.

Well, the poor boy Spock just couldn't take the torture any longer and jumped over the baby gate (akin to Free Willy breaching the tank wall to return to the ocean). Of course when he got in on the tug-o-war play action, Eva read him the riot act and he realized he'd made a big mistake! From then on I gave Eva serious play time alone when Spock' was outside on his own potty break.

Our baby gates have never been knocked down or moved when our two Dobes are left alone at home, free to roam on first floor, except for MBR.

I also use baby gates outside on occasion, such as today, when I'm digging up my old sprinkler system valves for replacement. I'm working in a muddy hole that Mr. Spock would just love to get into to "help" me dig!


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We have this gate: https://www.drsfostersmith.com/produ...6&pcatid=26306. It's metal and it sort of "locks" into place. Sypha was the puppy who crashed right through the first gate we used, climbed the second gate, and had ZERO problem with gates falling - she thought it was FUN! (Richter was terrified when a gate fell when he was a pup and has had a healthy respect for gates ever since).

This gate is pressure mounted and if you do a good job of getting it tight to the wall it seems to be pretty sturdy. That said, I would recommend doing a LOT of work actively training your pup to respect the gate - no jumping on it, no paws on it, etc. Teach your pup to sit calmly to be let through the gate, etc. Good luck!
and actively "training" the twins to not encourage Loki greeting them with his paws on the gate! I may have recruit them in the training of Loki to respect the next gate if this incident did not do that!
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This is my favorite gate, its pretty sturdy and very tall: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

From the look of your picture, you might need an extension because the gate is less sturdy when the twisty things at the end are fully extended.
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New name for Loci..."Gate-buster" ..LOL
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This is my favorite gate, its pretty sturdy and very tall: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

From the look of your picture, you might need an extension because the gate is less sturdy when the twisty things at the end are fully extended.
Yes - that was a problem with the old gate as the screw extensions were almost all of the way out, so a good crash would pop the screws out. Since the force took them away from him, that did not bother him

I found another one on amazon - looks similar but is a little shorter and does not need to extend as much.

So far, respect! :-)
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