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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-08-2018, 08:06 AM Thread Starter
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Puppy knuckling over?

Out pup is 8 weeks 3 days old. I brought her home Sunday afternoon. I spent time with her at the breeders house and noticed nothing out of the ordinary.

Yesterday I started noticing her paw doing this slightly, and by the end of the saying looked like the attached picture. I have an appointment with the vet on Friday (he's the local large breed dog guru) but until then. I wanted to get some opinions from experienced Dobe owners.

Thanks in advance. I'm guessing that despite my vetting, I made a poor breeder choice. But it it was it is, I just want to try to make her better. Thanks

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Does appear to be favoring that front paw....can you send more PICs ....did you contact the breeder regarding any recent trauma that they might be aware of ....glad you visiting the VET this Friday....suspect you will have the vet do a complete physical and look over the existing testing for you to be sure all is in order.....what type of foods is or has the dog been eating?
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This problem is associated with your pups diet. It will go away once he is getting the right food in the proper amounts.
It has nothing to do with quality of his breeding just a over abundance or imbalance of minerals. Switch /transition to a quality adult food and feed the recommended bag rate.
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No trauma

Breeder and her vet said (based on photos) that it was rickets since she wasnt taken out much after her crop (so 2 weeks)

Our vet said it's caused by too much protein so she's now on adult large breed and soft surfaces
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Does appear to be favoring that front paw....can you send more PICs ....did you contact the breeder regarding any recent trauma that they might be aware of ....glad you visiting the VET this Friday....suspect you will have the vet do a complete physical and look over the existing testing for you to be sure all is in order.....what type of foods is or has the dog been eating?
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This problem is associated with your pups diet. It will go away once he is getting the right food in the proper amounts.
It has nothing to do with quality of his breeding just a over abundance or imbalance of minerals. Switch /transition to a quality adult food and feed the recommended bag rate.
Thanks! Exactly what my vet said.

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Yeah...when Hoss was a little pup we picked him up in our FORD 150.....breeder was concerned about the possibility of Hoss jumping in and out of the truck frequently .....so we were warned to avoid high impact activity on those developing joints until pup was approaching 1 year.......nevertheless....what a cutie.......send more PICS when you have time....

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I thought I would post an update. Thanks you all for your tips. Blue is doing great now!

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They look so much better.....thanks for the update.
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We a have had several of these over the years with all mostly eating the same diets. Some have the problem and some don't. It always seems to happen at about the same age. It does not have to do with the quality of the breeding. Lowering the protein level in the food may help, but all will get over it eventually.
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I guess I'm putting this in to prevent folks from being too casual about it--pups do usually get over it. But not always--it is possible that what you think is plain knuckling over is really due to another condition or conformation flaw showing up. And in those cases the treatment needs to start before the malformation becomes relatively permanent.

Unfortunately there are a lot of opinions about the causes of "ordinary" knuckling over--the wrong diet is generally touted--too much or too little protein, supplements missing or maybe too much, the wrong kind of additions or the wrong proportions in their diet--probably a chunk of that is because most pups with the condition do actually get better on their own, and the owner thinks that whatever it was they changed is what made the puppy improve.

And even knowledgeable experts--vets, internet websites, breeders, blogs--will tell you conflicting things. Who do you believe??

But if this kind of condition persists for more than a week or two, and/or seems to be getting worse, you should head to the vet to make sure there isn't something else going on.
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Yes Blue does look great ...maybe send more PICs and stories !!!!

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Yes, I was worried at first, but I feel much better now knowing that it's not only my puppy that having this issue after doing some research online. I switched his food from blue buffalo puppy food to purina pro plan focus large breed puppy few weeks ago after I noticed his legs aren't straight and reading about it online. I just don't know if I'm feeding him too much or not which 3 meals a day in the morning, evening, and afternoon of an 8 oz cup.
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I don't know how to add pictures on here, but he seems to be doing much better now. His left leg is straight and the right leg is the one with the knuckle. Sometimes both seems to be straight and sometimes not? I limited his running/playtime a little bit because I'm worried that it might get worse especially when he used to run and fall over because of it.
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The vet didn't know what was the issue when I took him for a checkup. She had to go look it up online and print it me a copy of what is it. Which is I already knew before taking him for a checkup to make sure it's not a health problem. I also asked the breeder that I got him from and he told me to give him vitamin C and it'll get better. My doberman puppy name is Blue too btw
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I don't know how to add pictures on here, but he seems to be doing much better now. His left leg is straight and the right leg is the one with the knuckle. Sometimes both seems to be straight and sometimes not? I limited his running/playtime a little bit because I'm worried that it might get worse especially when he used to run and fall over because of it.
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I just took this picture of him
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Quick update on Blue. He's doing great and he's legs are completely straight!!!
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Hi D14! And thanks for the update....

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