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Puppy starter kit-- ***feedback please***

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Just trying to solicit some feedback on starting with a new puppy. I found some articles but didn't see any single post that had the bulk of info in it. This is my second Dobie-- I got my first Doberman 16 years ago and she's been gone for almost 5 years so it's been awhile.

I'm familiar with crate training, potty training, and obedience training. I'm hoping to have a refresher of the things I'll need to have and advice for how/ what to feed the dog. I plan to follow the breeders ear posting recommendations and used tape/ tampons on my last Dobie.

I bought a crate 32x48x36 with a divider, I'll buy a food/ water bowl with a mat, leash, and collar...

What other items should I have? Getting the puppy at 10 weeks; what schedule of shots should followed and at what intervals?

What feeding schedule do you recommend and what type of food? I hear everything from dry food, to wet food, to raw diet... Thoughts/ suggestions? What toys do you recommend for them to start off with?

Thank you very much for any and all constructive feedback and feel free to add anything else relevant to help refresh my memory. Getting my new puppy in mid April and very excited!
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Chesa - has a good thread here:
https://www.dobermantalk.com/puppy-co...uppy-help.html

4x4 (aka John) - has a good thread here / post puppy:
https://www.dobermantalk.com/general-...py-biting.html

We have best kibble results with Nulo Medal Series Adult Lamb and Lentils / All Life Stages (ALS).
- puppy receive 1.5x feeding weight guideline, compared to adult dogs
https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-f...-medal-series/
- feed 4-5 star kibble & 5 star organic/dried liver treats
http://www.bennybullys.com/eng/index...ops-dog-treats
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Congrats on the puppy!

Regarding supplies, I also make sure to have everything for grooming ready so you can acclimate your puppy to being brushed, having their nails clipped/dremeled, having their ears cleaned. Have all the posting supplies you need, including adhesive remover. Have lots of cleaning supplies - bleach wipes, enzyme remover, paper towels, laundry detergent.

I don't like to change the puppies food right away, I stick to what the breeder was feeding and their routine in the beginning, and I also follow their shot recommendation protocol. The last puppy I got came with a binder of what/how to feed, shots records and shot recommendation, training advice, etc.

For toys, my puppy came home with a toy and blanket from his breeder. It was a sturdy stuffed fleece toy and he still has the toy and blanket 3 years later. But I would choose a couple different toys to see what they like - a hard rubber toy like a kong, a sturdy stuffed toy (I like Fluff & Tuff), a ball, etc.
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Like Scorning I recommend no change in food when the puppy comes to you--even if you think the food is trash--I feed whatever the breeder has been feeding for at least a month (actually I draw the line at Kibble n' Bits or Ol' Roy--I'd change either of those immediately). I do always add yogurt (or cottage cheese) to breakfast and a little canned food (and/or) a hardboiled egg to lunch or dinner--but this would only be a spoonful of any of the additives.

Vaccines--most breeders will tell you what vaccines the puppy has had and tell you when the next vaccine is due--if they don't find a good vet and go with what the recommend.

Congratulations on the puppy and good luck.

Ditto for the information about supplies for grooming and cleanup.

Toys--I think people buy puppies way too many toys--I've got other dogs and I learned long ago that the puppies think the big dog toys are better than any puppy toy. But if I was outfitting for a new and only puppy I'd buy three toys. A BIG kong (not puppy either red or black), a big heavy rubber ball with a squeaker (so they can drive you crazy squeaing it) and maybe one or two nylabone things to chew on. The wish bone is a favorite around here. I don't give any soft toys--most puppies can have them until about four months but after that they tend to simply eviscerate them and often eat the stuffing.
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I LOVE those squeaker toys (heavy rubber--the Cuz toy or a ball if you're worried they'll take off the feet--but mine never have) Some people say they keep theirs on top of the refrigerator except for special occasions because they're so noisy, but the pups have SO MUCH fun with them. It's a blast to watch them play (and I actually like all the different squeals they can make )

I bet there are some other closet squeak toy likers out there, too.
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I LOVE those squeaker toys (heavy rubber--the Cuz toy or a ball if you're worried they'll take off the feet--but mine never have) Some people say they keep theirs on top of the refrigerator except for special occasions because they're so noisy, but the pups have SO MUCH fun with them. It's a blast to watch them play (and I actually like all the different squeals they can make )

I bet there are some other closet squeak toy likers out there, too.
I love the JW ball and Cuz sqeaker toys because they last longer than any others.

Toad got a medium sized Cuz when he was at the National--it was in the exhibitor bag--it had feet and he chewed one off during the National and they (friends took him for me--couldn't get off work)took it away from him--it was his favorite toy for years--ultimately his son came along and chewed off the other foot and a visiting Golden chewed the squeaker out.

My dogs drive me crazy with anything that squeaks but I put up with is because it's pretty amazing the horrible sounds they can make--one of the bigger Cuz squeakies belonged to Rumor--he wouldn't let Toad have it--and he figured out how to stick an upper canine tooth into the squeaker and make awful strangled squeaking noises.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I'll touch base with the breeder about her vaccine schedule and what feed she uses. All the info above is helpful and I'm going to read the links posted about now. I'll touch base with the breeder on what ear posting materials she'll recommend.

Any other feedback people can chime in with is appreciated. I plan to use a dermal to do his nails. First time I'm trying this on an animals, any advice on how to go about successfully implementing it?
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Thanks for the replies guys. I'll touch base with the breeder about her vaccine schedule and what feed she uses. All the info above is helpful and I'm going to read the links posted about now. I'll touch base with the breeder on what ear posting materials she'll recommend.

Any other feedback people can chime in with is appreciated. I plan to use a dermal to do his nails. First time I'm trying this on an animals, any advice on how to go about successfully implementing it?
How to Dremel Dog Nails @ DoberDawn.com
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Here's previous thread about Dremel models.
https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberman...endations.html

You can use DT Forum Search feature to find more threads on subject.

I currently use the Dremel Micro Li-Ion w/LED end light.
Very pleased with performance/size, just wish it had swappable battery pack.
I do (2) Dobe's nails about once/week. (Eva's grow much faster)
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i also like to keep Benadryl child dosage on hand.
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Remember on Dremel sanding / drum only contacts toe nail, a few seconds @ a time.
- so the grinding is alternated between toe nails, until correct length on all
^^ Reason, abrasive operation generates much heat / and toe nails will get hot otherwise.

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I have two batteries for my dremel, so I can switch them in the charger (which is plug in)--there's always one charging while I work with the other. When I did two dogs (or more) at once, the dremel got a bit weaker toward the end of the battery's charge, and the charge didn't last that long. A corded dremel might have been better, but it limited my mobility.

I HIGHLY recommend a dremel. My dogs were so used to it (and the treats that came with it) that they would lie down on their sides and practically wave their feet in the air when it came out of the closet.

Emergency First Aid things to have around--

1. Tape and gauze pads for cuts (the same tape you use for posting should work).

2. Hydrogen Peroxide, to make him vomit, NOT as a wound treatment, might be a good thing to keep available--ask your vet in advance how much and when to give it. You don't want to give it if he has swallowed something caustic or sharp, for example--those could cause more damage coming up, than they did going down. And remember to include a largish syringe to squirt the stuff into the back of his mouth.

3. Another med you could have is an anti-gas med (gas-x, simethicone) for emergency bloat treatment. But again ASK YOUR VET about that--how and when to use. And I think that would be something you could wait to get until your pup is grown.

4. I don't keep benedryl on purpose, though I usually have some anyway--but ask your vet (in advance) about how much to use and when it might be indicated. I remember using an adult human dose for my dog (even though a person weighs twice as much), BUT then my dog had fairly severe allergies.


Know your way to the closest emergency vet, be able to look up their phone number quickly, and have the poison control folk's number, too.
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