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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 10-14-2016, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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First time posting here. Tomorrow I'm adopting what I originally thought was a Doberman. Vet records now say she may be a doberman/rottweiler mix. She's pretty small though, only about 32 pounds at 7 months. What do you guys think she is? Should I expect her to grow a lot larger? I've attached a few pictures! If the attachment doesn't work, here's the link - Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

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Gosh, if she's only around 32 pounds at 7 months I don't see how she could possibly be a Rottweiler cross.

I don't really try to guess adult size from puppy weight though. And I've had Dobes forever but I only keep males but--on average male Dobe puppies gain about 10 pounds per month from around 2 months to 6 months. Puppy bitches would be anywhere from around 10 to 15 pounds lighter. So I'd expect that at 7 months a puppy bitch would run around 45 to 50 pounds.

She doesn't look thin. Are they sure about her age? Dobes by six month don't usually have a lot of black on the toes and ankles--but that would be North American lines--if she's from European breeding they often have smaller markings and retain a lot of black in the rust on their feet.

I don't really see a lot of Rott--the head isn't blocky enough and that's where many Rott crosses show more Rotty than Dobe. She also doesn't seem to have enough bone which is something else that most RottXDobe crosses have--heavier bone than you would see on a Dobe. And her ears don't look anything like Rott ears--which are usually much smaller ad lie close to the cheek--those look like Dobe ears.

I think if she's actually 7 months she looks more like a small Dobe than a cross--she'll still grow but she may always be on the small size. Do you have any idea how tall she is at the withers? (top of the shoulder).

Well, it's only a guess on my part but she's sure cute unless she changes a lot as she grows no matter what her vet records say I'd be inclined to tell anyone who asked that she's a Dobe.
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She's a cutie pie, that's what she is.

Congratulations on your new addition & thank you for adopting. Please share some more pics of her when she's home & settled in.
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She is so pretty! She looks very sweet natured, too. Lucky you and lucky her!
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For comparison, Piper is just shy of 6 months and she was 50 lbs about 2 weeks ago. She is 22” tall and 27” around the chest (I just measured her for a coat ). She comes from confirmation lines so I don't expect her to be oversized when full grown. Heightwise that is 24-26”. Her mother was closer to 26”. So I'm guessing she only has a few more inches to full grown. If your bitch is close in age I would think she won't grow a ton, but maybe a couple of inches? I'm no expert though, this is my first puppy, my last girl was a rescue at about 6 months.

Piper's got quite the set of chompers now, I would guess that her teeth are going to be your best "tell" at this age. I'm no age or tooth expert, but I noticed with Piper her puppy teeth were spaced far apart and small, but she is just a mouth full of BIG teeth these days . Last time I took a critical look at the molars a week or so ago they were not all the way in, but had fully cleared the gum line. How does this all line up with your pup?

I would agree though that Rottweiler doesn't sound right at all. She isn't remotely blocky and if she is 7 months then she is much too small to be mixed with something that is larger than a dobe. If anything it would need to be mixed with something smaller, like a German Pinscher.

She looks so sweet! I can see why you want to scoop her up! Definitely post more pictures once she comes home.
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Hey everyone!

Thanks for all the responses. She is quite the cutie pie!

I agree that she doesn't look very much like a Rottweiler, and her size is pretty indicative of that. Not sure if she was malnourished in the shelter, but she is still a bit skinny. Not too thin though! As for her age, she was checked out by a vet, and that's where the age estimate came from. I assume they took a good look at her teeth. I'll measure her today to the withers and see how tall she is currently

First weekend went pretty well. She's pretty nervous though and I assume it will take her some time to get comfortable. She's warmed up very easily with my girlfriend, but is definitely more hesitant with me. The biggest issue we've experienced is some separation anxiety, especially with her momma. Anytime she leaves, she whines and barks. And when we both left her yesterday in her crate for about 45 minutes, she was freaking out. This is definitely something we need to work on so if anyone has some tips that would be much appreciated! She's already got sit down, and going to that bathroom outside so she seems to be a quick learner. She's very mild-mannered and sleepy for a puppy though!

Here are some more pictures of her in her new furever home! https://imgur.com/a/xwSUe

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Yup...no doubt about it. She’s mixed with cute.
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For comparison, Piper is just shy of 6 months and she was 50 lbs about 2 weeks ago. She is 22” tall and 27” around the chest (I just measured her for a coat ). She comes from confirmation lines so I don't expect her to be oversized when full grown. Heightwise that is 24-26”. Her mother was closer to 26”. So I'm guessing she only has a few more inches to full grown. If your bitch is close in age I would think she won't grow a ton, but maybe a couple of inches? I'm no expert though, this is my first puppy, my last girl was a rescue at about 6 months.

Piper's got quite the set of chompers now, I would guess that her teeth are going to be your best "tell" at this age. I'm no age or tooth expert, but I noticed with Piper her puppy teeth were spaced far apart and small, but she is just a mouth full of BIG teeth these days . Last time I took a critical look at the molars a week or so ago they were not all the way in, but had fully cleared the gum line. How does this all line up with your pup?

I would agree though that Rottweiler doesn't sound right at all. She isn't remotely blocky and if she is 7 months then she is much too small to be mixed with something that is larger than a dobe. If anything it would need to be mixed with something smaller, like a German Pinscher.

She looks so sweet! I can see why you want to scoop her up! Definitely post more pictures once she comes home.
So she's only about 20 or 21 inches tall right now. So who knows how big she'll get?

Separation anxiety is pretty bad though. Can't leave for 30 seconds without her flipping out howling. Any tips on how to handle this?
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Separation anxiety is a very common problem in dobes.

Start by checking out these threads
https://www.dobermantalk.com/general-...n-anxiety.html
https://www.dobermantalk.com/general-...n-anxiety.html

And feel free to ask more questions...
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Thank you! Working on this...

I've noticed if she doesn't see or hear me leave she does ok in the crate by herself. Is this defeating the purpose though? Should I make sure she hears me leave?
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Congrats on your the adoption and new family member. Make the crate enjoyable for her. Make it available at all times so she doesn't see it as a jail cell. Give her some of her favorite toys or treats in her crate while you guys are there to supervise.
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Just an update over here. Took Emma to her first vet appointment over the weekend. We've had her three weeks now and she's gained about 12 pounds and maybe an inch in height. Now about 7 months and 45 pounds.

Still having big issues with separation anxiety though!



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I adopted my dobergirl at 7 1/2 months. She was 50lbs at the vet the next day if that helps.



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I don't know how tall she is, but have you considered she could be a German pinscher?
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Just an update over here. Took Emma to her first vet appointment over the weekend. We've had her three weeks now and she's gained about 12 pounds and maybe an inch in height. Now about 7 months and 45 pounds.

Still having big issues with separation anxiety though!



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Separation anxiety can usually be corrected by making sure the dog gives you space when you are home. If she is allowed to stay underfoot no matter what you are doing and follows you around or has to be in your "space bubble" at all times she will become more and more dependent/nervous/anxious. I would start out by teaching her the "place" command and having her practice that while you are home. It will give her something to focus on (a job of sorts) other than the fact that you aren't immediately beside her - "oh, I just need to stay right here on this cot and I can't step off. I can do this." As you build up duration, she will become more and more confident and able to stand on her own two feet... There are several free videos on how to teach the place command on YouTube. I recommend Solid K9 Training or The Good Dog Training and Rehabilitation. Tons of useful information on those channels.
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I don't know how tall she is, but have you considered she could be a German pinscher?
About 22 inches at the moment. Totally guess she could be! We'll see if she continues to grow as it seems she would be at about the upper limit for a German pinscher.
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Separation anxiety can usually be corrected by making sure the dog gives you space when you are home. If she is allowed to stay underfoot no matter what you are doing and follows you around or has to be in your "space bubble" at all times she will become more and more dependent/nervous/anxious. I would start out by teaching her the "place" command and having her practice that while you are home. It will give her something to focus on (a job of sorts) other than the fact that you aren't immediately beside her - "oh, I just need to stay right here on this cot and I can't step off. I can do this." As you build up duration, she will become more and more confident and able to stand on her own two feet... There are several free videos on how to teach the place command on YouTube. I recommend Solid K9 Training or The Good Dog Training and Rehabilitation. Tons of useful information on those channels.
Great thanks! She's ok with being in her crate away from us while we're home. And actually prefers to spend time alone away from us when we're watching TV or something. It's just when we leave that she starts to get anxious. In fact, if we leave quietly and she doesn't hear us, she tends to do ok in the crate. We haven't worked too much on a place command, so good idea! I'll start with training her a bit on that.
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I adopted my dobergirl at 7 1/2 months. She was 50lbs at the vet the next day if that helps.
And how much more did she grow beyond that?
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Ugh, just got some news back from the vet that her fecal test came back positive for giardia. Not sure where she got that from...

Vet suggested 6 days of Panacur. This sound accurate? I found the powder online at Amazon for what seems like a good price.
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About 22 inches at the moment. Totally guess she could be! We'll see if she continues to grow as it seems she would be at about the upper limit for a German pinscher.
For size reference, Ilka (the black and white dog in my pictures) stands 22" tall, and weighs right at 48# at a fully mature six years.

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Giardia is usually picked up by drinking stagnant water and/or poor sanitation. Was she picked up as a stray?


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For size reference, Ilka (the black and white dog in my pictures) stands 22" tall, and weighs right at 48# at a fully mature six years.



Giardia is usually picked up by drinking stagnant water and/or poor sanitation. Was she picked up as a stray?
Don't believe she was. Apparently dropped off at a shelter in Dallas. Was there for a bit, and then spent some time with a foster family. Not sure where it would have come from. Maybe a dog park?
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Emma's still growing so seems German Pinscher isn't a possibility. She's about 8 months now and 50lbs. Should be interesting to see how much bigger she will get! Still not sure if she's 100% dobie though, but she sure is cute!

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Beautiful! If we're still playing "guess the breeds" I do think there might be some Rottie in the mix, after all.


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Beautiful! If we're still playing "guess the breeds" I do think there might be some Rottie in the mix, after all.
Yeh a few other people have said that too!
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So having a hard time believing the results but we sent in a Wisdom Panel DNA test for Emma. Came back saying she isn't doberman at all. 50% rottweiler, 25% mixed breed, 12.5% staffordshire terrier, and 12.5% boston terrier.

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