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Question 10.5 month old male doberman weight concerns

Hello everyone! I'm new to forum but saw how helpful everyone is in regards to answering questions, so i figured I could give it a try. I'm concerned I may have stunted my dogs growth from when he was little because of my job. I was working 3 12 hour days where he had to stay locked up the entire time I know, it was horrible, and this lasted for the first 5 months I had him sadly. Right now he's healthy and happy, but he's small 54lbs at 10.5 months. I'm not sure how tall he is, but he's shorter than most other male, and some female dobermans I've seen. I exercise him everyday and feed him healthy amounts of quality food. He's not unhealthy skinny nor over weight. I'm just wondering if it's because of my absence those 3 days a week during his early puppyhood why he is so little compared to other dobermans, or if I'm being silly and he's at a fine weight as is and will still continue to grow. He was the runt out of his black and tan brothers too if that helps. If anyone has any insight I would love to hear it.
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Hi and welcome.

That does seem small to me as my boy is just shy of 7mo and weighs 70lbs.

What breeder did you purchase him from? Knowing this can help guide people to his pedigree. Some lines take longer to mature as well. I've seen some males make a transformation between 2-3 years that you wouldn't have thought it was the same dog!

Is he still intact? Not being intact tends to cause dogs to be leggier and taller, intact they are fuller, stouter.

What have you been feeding him since he was a puppy? proper nutrition at a young age greatly affects how big and healthy a dog will be.

Lastly, and this might seem off subject but what color is your boy and what are his stools like? Have you had tests run on him? Does he seem overly hungry often? Could he have parasites?
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Ok.... Just my thoughts.

First of all. Leaving your pup alone and secluded for 12+ hours in my opinion was totally irresponsible. Hopefully he has no emotional/training problems.

That being said (since you have already acknowledged your negligence), if he has been well fed and all health issues are clear, IMO, you simply have a dog who will fall into the smaller end of the Doberman spectrum.

No big deal.

My last three boys at their best weight: 95 lb. 65lb. and 80lb. Same breeder, same environment. All dogs are different. Some hit the top and some hit the bottom of reasonable size/weight given breed standard.

G-R mentioned parasites. What does your vet say about his current health?

In any case ... Welcome!

How about a photo?

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That is small in my opinion. My boy was roughly 70 pounds at that age. He's 82 pounds now at 2.5 years old.

Id talk to your vet!

"stay hungry, stay foolish."
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I doubt that you stunted his growth--maybe you slowed it down but here and elsewhere people involved (usually in rescue situations)have described situations where a puppy they fostered was severely malnourished when very young and when rescued and fostered, with proper feeding and care actually still caught up in size and weight to other puppies the same age.

But you do have to remember that he was the runt (and some runts catch up and some don't) and he may simply be from smaller lines or lines that develope more slowly.

At 10-1/2 months he's far from finished growing since males generally don't hit their maximum height until about 18 months and maximum mature weight usually trails height and heavens knows actual maturity really shows up at sometime between 2 and 3 years.

Bottom line is that he'll be whatever his genetics dictate and you'll have to wait it out.
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He's not too small, about my boy's size. Morgynn is now about 16months old and only around 65lb. The last ten pounds were put on super slowly and I'm sure he'll fill in another five to twenty pounds as he matures. I would be surprised if he hits his sire's size though. He's just a naturally smaller Doberman, even unfixed, and you know, that's okay with me as long as he's healthy =)
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Axel was a rescue and he maintained 65 pounds of lankiness his entire life. He dropped to 60 when I had to put him down. He was still a "Doberman" in all aspects of our relationship.

A Dobe is a Dobe. Maybe not "breed" standards, but still a Dobe.

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You know...it's also worth remembering that the AKC standard (and the Canadian KC standard too as I recall) doesn't even specify a weight. And even for height it's a range with a preferred height for dogs and bitches but it's not a DQ if you are not quite in the range much less specifically the ideal (preferred) height.

One of the most beautiful Dobe bitches I've ever seen was just barely 24"--and the judges could hardly take their eyes off her when she was in the ring.

In all the years I've had Dobes I've only ever had one that was 27-1/2" I had him a long time ago--I think as a mature adult he was only about 72 pounds.

I only pay attention to weight if they start looking fat or thin and my dogs don't vary much from whatever they weighed when I was showing them in conformation (and I show them heavier than they'll ever be again because they are young, immature and need to be a little fat to be at all competative.) But when they are done with conformation and starting to do the more rigorous stuff that involves jumping in Rally or Obedience or if they are actually starting to compete in Agility I take that extra weight off. So a dog like Toad who showed conformation at 89 to 90 pounds did everything else (Rally, Obedience and Agility) at 85 pounds (give or take 1/2 pound either side of that.

I took him into the clinic this morning to get a rabies vx and weighed him--85.2 pounds.
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Thank you everyone for the wonderful feedback and assurance. I may be feeling some guilt from his early puppyhood that has manifested itself into worry about his size. I have never had a vet tell me he was unhealthy in anyway. They have said he has a healthy coat and good long bones. He's a beautiful doberman with lovely coloring and a good heart. He recently got neutered (7/19) so he's been all put together until now. His parents were on the bigger end which is why I was concerned, but he was always smaller than his siblings. He eats Taste of the Wild, the Lamb recipe. He's on a free feed and doesn't over or under eat (hence why he's on the free feed). On average he eats about 3-3.5 cups a day and gets taken to the dog park every night to run around and socialize. He may just be a slow grower and I shouldn't be so impatient for him to sprout. He's healthy and happy (at least before loosing his jibblets) and that's what's important. So thank you everyone for the warm welcome! I'll be sure to get some pictures of my beautiful boy up
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@ brunos.mom.

Awesome! My wife was working in Las Vega the last couple of days. 110 degrees! Ugh....

Careful with a pup in hot weather.

Thanks for the update.

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