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Puppy is very stubborn training tips

My dobie is 12 weeks. I've had him since he was 4 weeks old yeah I know way to young. I started socializing him when he was 6wks old. And I've tried to teach him basic commends, but he just won't listen! I've also tried tiring him out and then teach but nope. I've tried treats clicker nothing. We're still stuck on sitting he just won't sit or listen to me at at. what advice do you guys recommend? Please don't be rude
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I would recommend signing up for a puppy class, and also would not worry too much about doing a lot of obedience at your pups very young age - remember he is a baby.... and should never have left his litter before 8 weeks of age. I can't even imagine what kind of breeder would have sold a 4 week old puppy - it just makes me sad to even think about it.

I would also recommend buying and reading some good books on raising a puppy. The one I send home with my puppy families is: "How to raise a puppy you can live with" by Rutherford and Neil You can find it on amazon.com
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Lower your expectations.

Be more exciting and fun than the things going on around him.
A book I loved when I got my girl was control unleashed puppy.

At such a young age I worked more on capturing behaviour than truly trying to teach her things.
At such a young age you need to acknowledge and reward very very quickly. As soon as the bum hits the floor YES and treat!
Try changing your treats to something high value and that he only gets when you're working. Make it fun! Obedience, teaching tricks, foundation skills. Should all be fun and exciting and a very short duration at this point. You increase expectation as the dog is able to comply not on your whim. Work with the dogs skills and ability and not personal expectation. He is just a baby after all. A baby that missed out on so many things by being removed from mom and siblings so early.
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First off, you need to remember that, at 12 weeks, he is still very much a baby. Another thing to remember is that you have to teach a dog that "sit" doesn't just mean "plant your butt on the floor when we are in the kitchen", it means "plant your butt on the floor no matter where we are", which takes time and patience.

Clickers are great for baby puppies, but you have to do it right. The first thing you need to do is build value for (aka "load") the clicker. That is as simple as taking a dozen or so treats (can even be kibble) and doing rapid fire click/treat until all the treats are gone. Don't ask for any behaviors or anything, just make that click "pay". Do this a dozen times or so a day, and pretty soon, just seeing that clicker makes him happy.

Training actual behaviors can be done through shaping (waiting until he does something you want, then click/treat) or luring (him following a treat that you are guiding him into position with).

This would be a good resource. Fenzi Dog Sports Academy - FE110: Raising a Performance Puppy Don't let the "performance" in the title scare you, as it's a good foundation for all puppies. It's a retired class, meaning that while you will have all the instructor's lectures and videos, there aren't any live forums.


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I just wanted to add. Puppy isn't stubborn he's untrained. In order for the puppy to be 'stubborn' puppy has to 100% understand what is being asked and choose to not comply.



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I strongly urge you to get that puppy evaluated by a veterinarian just to make sure there are no health issues with hearing, neurological, etc. Then enroll in a class ASAP!


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Before I give his food I command him to sit, and it really works. If he knew the word sit and then you saw it that he sit give the food and then do this continuously and you see it really work good luck. Patience is a key to success.

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Before I give his food I command him to sit, and it really works. If he knew the word sit and then you saw it that he sit give the food and then do this continuously and you see it really work good luck. Patience is a key to success.
While all my dogs are taught from the beginning to sit and wait for a release to eat, actual training takes place outside of meal times, in several short sessions a day.


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While all my dogs are taught from the beginning to sit and wait for a release to eat, actual training takes place outside of meal times, in several short sessions a day.
Thats a good idea. But do you apply your dog on a training program? Do you have a trainer now for them?
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