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Ear crop in NEPA?

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#1 ·
Anyone know of any good vets in North East PA that are good at cropping ears?
 
#4 ·
There are plenty of animal rights people who think that ear cropping is cruel if that's what you came up with. This vet is professional and will give your puppy the best ear crop you can get. If you don't already have the puppy I recommend purchasing a puppy from a breeder who crops all puppies before they go to their new homes. This veterinarian is a respected doberman breeder and there are many others in the area as well.
 
#29 ·
A lot of breeders who skimp by not handling ear cropping themselves also skimp on other stuff, like titling and health testing. Have you've seen hard copies of all the health testing on them? Hips, elbows, holter and echo reports, thyroid panel, and vWD? Has the breeder has gone over the pups' pedigree, and told you all they know about the health testing results and cause of death of the dogs in at least the last three generations? Do they compete and title their dogs in conformation and/or performance?
 
#43 · (Edited)
You are being a very good sport about all of this but this statement strikes me. I used to think that way until I brought a happy healthy CKC (Continental Kennel club) yorkie home. 6 mo later he had hip dysplasia, 3 mo after that he had liver shunt and the list truly goes on. I could have had 10 or more Yorkies for the cost of that one!!!! But the continual heartache of watching a dog suffer is what's truly priceless. 2 years later I purchased a well bred yorkie from show lines and you know how many health issues I had? Zip, zero zilch! And she was pretty much house trained when I got her!

Do you know there's a hereditary disease that kills AT LEAST 50% of Dobermans? If you search you'll find where a healthy 6mo old Doberman dropped dead and a healthy 9mo old DROPPED DEAD! You question their health but MANY of these Dobes were playing fetch when it happened! Do you know there's a hereditary bleeding disease that can potentially kill your puppy on the operating table while they are getting their ears cropped? Do you know these can be tested for or monitored so you arent breeding dogs that have these issues? Although some of the advice given to you was a bit... Harsh. It's given with love, it's given through the voice of people that have lived through what they don't want others to EVER have to live through.

Like Fitzmar I too work in rescue as a way of giving back. My rescue has never heard of my dogs kennels names and they will never know of my kennel either. This is because both of my dogs are co-owned and microchipped, as will be my puppies some day, to ensure that if something happens to the owners I will take my puppy (or dog) back as my own. This also ensures that they most likely won't become a puppy millers dog because they can't register the puppies without my consent. My puppies, even when sold, are my puppies, and I will love them like my own and ensure they are always taken care of as such. This is what a responsible breeder does.

We here at DT try to encourage people to step away from any purchase, if possible, so as to not encourage the wrong breeders to keep breeding. If puppies don't sell they stop breeding. Your heart maybe set, but if your money isn't, I'd walk away. All breeders should be health testing for both DCM genes, thyroid issues, vWD status, HOLTER monitoring and echoing the heart within 3 mo of breeding, xraying the hips and elbows...

I was just getting some love from some 8 week old and a 10week old puppy(s) it's so easy to fall in love isn't it?!? A dog is a dog is a dog, yes that's true, so if you can, walk away, because a breeder IS NOT a breeder IS NOT a breeder!!!!

If you choose not too or feel you can't WE WILL STILL BE HERE TO HELP YOU!!! Because we are a community and we support others. So plz stay and learn and show us beautiful puppy pictures. You know cream is really the "in" color for toe nails these days not blue >:)
 
#32 ·
...Do you know what health problems affect this breed? Do you know what is involved with testing for those health problems? To be quite honest, the dam looks like a typical BYB bitch and knowing where you're located she's probably FROM Greenfield.

I think you're buying yourself a medical minefield. And I think you're deliberately ignoring the questions presented because you don't want to admit you may be wrong in your choice.

DPCA | The Doberman | Health

Read. Educate yourself. Avoid supporting crappy breeders...go to rescue, instead, if you don't care about where your puppy comes from.
 
#40 ·
@ MajorDobe13

Your words: "No more of this place for me. bye bye"

Bad idea. You will not find a source better than DT for info and support.

There are a few members here who tend to be abrupt and in my opinion quite rude. However regardless of their lack of civility, their intentions are true and well intended. It is a passion... some get carried away. Also anonymity tends to mitigate manners.

Ok... Here is the bottom line: If you are bringing a Doberman puppy int your household, you cannot afford to ditch this site because you got your feelings hurt. Ultimately, you will want to fall back to DT Forum. I guarantee it!

Please don't let a single bad interaction dissuade you from taking advantage of the best on-line Doberman resource available

Thanks

John Lichtwardt
Portland OR
503 806 7142
dopplerjohn@earthlink.net
 
#41 ·
@ MajorDobe13

Your words: "No more of this place for me. bye bye"

Bad idea. You will not find a source better than DT for info and support.

There are a few members here who tend to be abrupt and in my opinion quite rude. However regardless of their lack of civility, their intentions are true and well intended. It is a passion... some get carried away. Also anonymity tends to mitigate manners.

Ok... Here is the bottom line: If you are bringing a Doberman puppy int your household, you cannot afford to ditch this site because you got your feelings hurt. Ultimately, you will want to fall back to DT Forum. I guarantee it!

Please don't let a single bad interaction dissuade you from taking advantage of the best on-line Doberman resource available

Thanks

John Lichtwardt
Portland OR
503 806 7142
dopplerjohn@earthlink.net
Its a dog.....all i came here for was to know a good vet to crop the ears...i have owned a doberman in the past "ears already done". Why in the world would i need to come back to this rude forum? To learn how to feed a dog? To learn how to clip a dogs nails? Nah im good. Dogs are pretty easy to raise even the Doberman if you bond with your dog read him you dont have to ask people what to do you should know already.
 
#47 ·
You can start your search for a good breeder on the DPCA breeders list. DPCA | The Doberman | Breeder Referral Not every puppy in a litter is show quality. The difference between a show prospect and a pet in a well-bred litter can be subtle, and you'd have a wealth of knowledge and support buying from a good breeder.

And no, DT isn't "nothing more then a show Doberman site", seeing as most of the people here have pets. Rescues, even. Some of us don't even have a Doberman. It is, however, a site that supports good, ethical breeders, and tries to educate people on why they should buy from them. We don't support BYBs, greeders, or puppymills.
 
#49 ·
@Major

Your words: "This forum is nothing more then a show doberman site...."

Honestly, nothing could be further from the truth. I am a perfect example. I have owned Dobermans since 1974. In the last many decades, my boys have all come from good breeders.... those who wish to further the breed.... in health and temperament, while still remaining true to the Doberman ideal.

That being said, all of my boys for over 40+ years have been nothing more than pet/companions. They have never been bred. They have never competed. Our current dogs come from pretty much impeccable lineage. Yet, they will never be bred or shown.

So... Why do I go to the efforts to obtain such a dog? For the exact reasons that have been laundry listed above by Fitzmar Dobermans and Gretchen Red.

I respect the breed. I despise those who abuse the breed.

If you can't relate to that, then perhaps a Doberman is not the dog for you.

I was hoping that after folks like Gretchen reached out to you that you would understand.
Perhaps, I was mistaken.

John
Portland OR
 
#50 ·
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I get where your coming from i do. Dobermans are more then a dog to me there "the dog" of all dog breeds. Just because i am not giving out the breeders name does not mean i am getting him from Green whats it called? I will not show the dog. I will not do protection training with the dog. He will be a pet just like our last one was. Very loyal very smart very loving. Can i ask you something? You dont sleep with your dog do you? Because thats very frowned upon in most states :2surprise:[/QUOTE]

No, you don't get where I am coming from.... but I didn't think that you would.

Personally, I sleep with my husband of 25 years and have a couple of nice dog beds on the floor.... although, it is not unknown for a dog to curl up on our bed sometimes :sunglasse
 
#51 ·
Others are only trying to save you the heartache of medical and other issues that come with poorly bred dogs. I don't think anyone is being rude.

I wish I had been given the advice here years ago before we bought our girl. Although, I would never change a thing even with all her issues.....CAH, copper storage and etc.

I have a learned a great deal over the years here other than how to feed or trim a dogs nails.

The advice is invaluable. Stay a while im sure youll feel the same. Good luck with your puppy. And

p.s. we have been a client of Dr. Kosters for 7 years. Shes the best youll find.
 
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