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Well the time has finally come! We picked up Maddox yesterday and are proud Dobie owners. She is 8 weeks old and will be going for her crop next week. Didn't know Dobies nip so much, that is the new priority to correct right now as she has already bloodied my ear...lol. But I cant be mad at this face.

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very cute! i'd wonder why your breeder isn't handling the crop for you, though? she should have come home with her ears cropped, healed, and posted.
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She's a cutie. Who was the breeder? Do you know if the breeder did much socialization work with the litter? Either way it's a good idea to get Maddox out to experience as many new places and people as you can in the coming weeks. You might want to give her a day or two to get settles with you though.
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very cute! i'd wonder why your breeder isn't handling the crop for you, though? she should have come home with her ears cropped, healed, and posted.
I had the option to have her done by the breeder, I chose not to as the breeder is in CA and I would have had to handle all post care on my own. Having it done here is Las Vegas the vet handles everything and I get to have a lot more input on the crop. So I thought that was the smarter option.
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OMG... She is so beautiful..

Honestly, you may want to assume the follow up crop care (posting) yourself. There are a lot of newer techniques out there that many vets don't take advantage of. All you have to do is ask.You will get answers

But. more importantly,it is a wonderful opportunity to bond with your puppy. I would not miss the hands on experience for anything.

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OMG... She is so beautiful..

Honestly, you may want to assume the follow up crop care (posting) yourself. There are a lot of newer techniques out there that many vets don't take advantage of. All you have to do is ask.You will get answers

But. more importantly,it is a wonderful opportunity to bond with your puppy. I would not miss the hands on experience for anything.

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Thanks for the advice I may just do that. I looked over the posting section and its a little intimidating but I suppose I can suck it up and go for it.
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So cute. Bet she’ll learn to use that look to get everything she wants from you, though.

Gotta protect those ears. Our first dobe sent my now-ex to the ER to get his ear to stop bleeding. The state wanted to put the pup in quarantine for rabies (at 8 weeks old!) but our vet stepped in, and the state allowed us to sign a form saying that if the ex caught rabies, he wouldn’t hold them responsible.
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She's a cutie. Who was the breeder? Do you know if the breeder did much socialization work with the litter? Either way it's a good idea to get Maddox out to experience as many new places and people as you can in the coming weeks. You might want to give her a day or two to get settles with you though.
Her name is Lucy, she is relatively new to doberman breeding. As far as I know she worked with her pups on socialization quite regular. I'm sure the ear incident was my fault as I was laying on the floor trying to get her ball out from under the couch..lol
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Well the time has finally come! We picked up Maddox yesterday and are proud Dobie owners. She is 8 weeks old and will be going for her crop next week. Didn't know Dobies nip so much, that is the new priority to correct right now as she has already bloodied my ear...lol. But I cant be mad at this face.

Oh my, she's adorable! I love her expression. Certainly looks like she loves you very much already.
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She is adorable, you are right, she will be able to get away with murder. Those eyes could melt stone.
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She's a cutie and I LOVE her name! Welcome to the forum.

Even though it's uncomfortable to address, a less than reputable breeder has left the serious health issue of ear cropping up to you, a novice puppy buyer. That means it is highly likely that many other important breeding concerns, such as appropriate health testing of the parents, were completely ignored by this backyard breeder.

My advise, speaking from a $14,000 perspective of money spent thus far on emergency medical care for my three year old, is to buy pet insurance ASAP! Although my boy Boon does not have any genetic issues identified and came from an extremely reputable breeder, he's had more than 12 emergency room visits and hospitalizations – nobody can get into trouble like a Doberman can.

All Doberman owners should prepare for the possibility of required treatment for genetic health issues, we know that about our breed. In your case, when you purchased a puppy from a less than reputable breeder, your chances of future health problems were greatly increased.

It's just a fact – your breeder did not bother to get an experienced veterinarian to crop the litter. Unlike reputable breeders, she did not do any crop aftercare for the litter. Based on that, I would bet a good amount that she also did not properly health test the parents or research the pedigree for the potential health issues she may have been creating in the match-up of that particular dam and sire. I'd also bet money that the cross she decided on was based entirely on availability; that is, she had a live reproductively intact female and there was a live, reproductively intact male Doberman easily available. Bloodlines, health status, none of that likely mattered or was considered prior to allowing the two dogs to mate.

So, you'll love your sweet, adorable, bouncy, mouthy puppy, of course you will, but it's also wise to invest in pet insurance and start a rainy day fund. Just makes sense.

Hope you don't take this information negatively as I don't mean any of it to be personally against you or your puppy. It's just that we get frustrated here seeing so many litters produced under less than reputable conditions and the fallout being the future health of the puppies.
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So cute. Bet she’ll learn to use that look to get everything she wants from you, though.

Gotta protect those ears. Our first dobe sent my now-ex to the ER to get his ear to stop bleeding. The state wanted to put the pup in quarantine for rabies (at 8 weeks old!) but our vet stepped in, and the state allowed us to sign a form saying that if the ex caught rabies, he wouldn’t hold them responsible.
The breeder of my Berner got bit when she stepped in and broke up her dogs having a fight. She knew what the hospital would do so she told the ER folks that she fell in a barbed-wire fence. They didn't believe her and get telling her it looked like animal bites but she kept insisting it was barbed-wire. Eventually they just sighed, cleaner her up, and released her.

There's no way I would admit to a doctor that anything was a dog bite if it was one of my own dogs.
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She's a cutie and I LOVE her name! Welcome to the forum.

Even though it's uncomfortable to address, a less than reputable breeder has left the serious health issue of ear cropping up to you, a novice puppy buyer. That means it is highly likely that many other important breeding concerns, such as appropriate health testing of the parents, were completely ignored by this backyard breeder.

My advise, speaking from a $14,000 perspective of money spent thus far on emergency medical care for my three year old, is to buy pet insurance ASAP! Although my boy Boon does not have any genetic issues identified and came from an extremely reputable breeder, he's had more than 12 emergency room visits and hospitalizations – nobody can get into trouble like a Doberman can.

All Doberman owners should prepare for the possibility of required treatment for genetic health issues, we know that about our breed. In your case, when you purchased a puppy from a less than reputable breeder, your chances of future health problems were greatly increased.

It's just a fact – your breeder did not bother to get an experienced veterinarian to crop the litter. Unlike reputable breeders, she did not do any crop aftercare for the litter. Based on that, I would bet a good amount that she also did not properly health test the parents or research the pedigree for the potential health issues she may have been creating in the match-up of that particular dam and sire. I'd also bet money that the cross she decided on was based entirely on availability; that is, she had a live reproductively intact female and there was a live, reproductively intact male Doberman easily available. Bloodlines, health status, none of that likely mattered or was considered prior to allowing the two dogs to mate.

So, you'll love your sweet, adorable, bouncy, mouthy puppy, of course you will, but it's also wise to invest in pet insurance and start a rainy day fund. Just makes sense.

Hope you don't take this information negatively as I don't mean any of it to be personally against you or your puppy. It's just that we get frustrated here seeing so many litters produced under less than reputable conditions and the fallout being the future health of the puppies.
I don't take any of that negatively. I was a lurker on this sight before I purchased the puppy and filled my notebook with all the issues and questions that I wanted answered. I did ask about the genetic testing, both parents are clear, I asked about pedigree and was given 10 generations on both sides, I asked about temperament of parents and was able to meet both. The breeder was very helpful and was and still is available for any of my questions. I don't believe that not cropping the puppy's ears dictates a BYB. I was asked and provided my breeder the Vet I was using in Las Vegas so she could do her research and let me know if she approved. She has a Vet that she uses in CA but I asked to use one here in Vegas due to the post care availability. I believe that if you want to be a reputable breeder you must start somewhere. I am very happy with my choice and definitely would not consider her a BYB. JMHO.
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Hey Rogejn!

I absolutely agree with Tricia about canine health insurance. My goodness, what she is going through with her boy these recent days. What I have gone through in the past... ugh.

There is a current thread on insurance right now DT.

Maybe chime in and get some info.

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Hey Rogejn!

I absolutely agree with Tricia about canine health insurance. My goodness, what she is going through with her boy these recent days. What I have gone through in the past... ugh.

There is a current thread on insurance right now DT.

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Good for you. After a bunch of research and consulting with my vet, It was kind of a toss up between Embrace and Trupanion. I went with Embrace also.

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I don't take any of that negatively. I was a lurker on this sight before I purchased the puppy and filled my notebook with all the issues and questions that I wanted answered. I did ask about the genetic testing, both parents are clear, I asked about pedigree and was given 10 generations on both sides, I asked about temperament of parents and was able to meet both. The breeder was very helpful and was and still is available for any of my questions. I don't believe that not cropping the puppy's ears dictates a BYB. I was asked and provided my breeder the Vet I was using in Las Vegas so she could do her research and let me know if she approved. She has a Vet that she uses in CA but I asked to use one here in Vegas due to the post care availability. I believe that if you want to be a reputable breeder you must start somewhere. I am very happy with my choice and definitely would not consider her a BYB. JMHO.
so, they did annual holters and echos? annual thyroid, liver, kidney values? usually if they're willing to cut corners one way they're willing to cut corners in other ways.

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I went with Embrace as well! Well over Half the cost for me! I was surprised at the difference!
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