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Stockton has a little bit of extra fat on him, around his butt/waist. Not much, but it's noticeable to his breeder and several dobe people at a show we walked around today. He's a lumpy hourglass from the top.

He's been back to 3 cups of Acana (he was on Pro Plan Chicken and rice until 5 months) a day for over a month and he's still got the chunkiness. Treats have been cut way back (though he was over treated in puppy kindergarten....). His main treat is frozen carrots. His siblings are eating 5-6 cups a day and they ain't chunky! 3 cups seems like very little to me, but he sure isn't starving.

He was eating 4.5 cups a day until we realized he was chunky.

The only thing we can figure is he's not getting enough high-intensity exercise. I take him on 2 good walks a day and we play with him in the yard and in the house a lot, but his littermates all live with other dogs and apparently they just go all day long. Stockton is an only dog so he doesn't get that kind of workout.

Thoughts? I like the Acana. He loves it, good poops, good coat, etc. I switch protein sources each bag. Wild Prarie, Pacifica, and right now lamb and apple. Plus a locally-owned small feed store sells it and I like them. But if enough people think I'd have better luck switching foods I might do it.

We came up with the idea of "borrowing" dogs from friends more often so he can play more.

No good picks of his chunkiness handy, but here's him just being handsome on a camping trip just for kicks.



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You can try adding canned or cooked green beans (no salt, pureed or whole depending on what he’ll eat) for more bulk to keep his tummy full without adding a lot more calories.
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maybe he is saving up some fat to feed his next growth spurt.

is he a high energy dog or is he normally a laid back dude?

a handsome 'chubby' boy he is too...
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maybe he is saving up some fat to feed his next growth spurt.

is he a high energy dog or is he normally a laid back dude?

a handsome 'chubby' boy he is too...
I kinda thought that at first. I'm wasn't too concerned about it since he's still growing, but his breeder has shown dobes for 40 years so I listen to her. He's our first.

He's pretty laid back for a doberman puppy I'd say. He loves walks, adventures, and playtime...but he also loves naps. His morning routine is to eat, then his eyelids get heavy again.

He's got a lot of energy in the afternoon, but after walk/play/etc he will actually beg for us to sit down on the couch so he can nap on our laps.
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that is pretty laid back for a 7 month old male Doberman pup, at least any I have known.

most have been pretty wild and on the go.

well hopefully you can get the extra weight off with a little less food and a little more exercise.

if he has trouble keeping extra weight off into adulthood, you may want to have his thyroid levels checked.

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I think you are feeding too much now that his growth is slowing down. Just as a comparison my two adult dogs eat 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 cups of kibble a day and they both get a good bit of exercise...

acana is much more calorie rich than pro plan too
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I think you are feeding too much now that his growth is slowing down. Just as a comparison my two adult dogs eat 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 cups of kibble a day and they both get a good bit of exercise...

acana is much more calorie rich than pro plan too
Interesting. It seems everyone feeds more than me. Nice to hear from someone that's not feeding twice what I do.

Google brings up 449 calories per cup for Pro Plan Chicken & Rice. 489 somewhere else. I can't find it directly from Purina which is annoying.

The Acana Lamb & Apple he's on now shows 395 per cup on the Acana website.

421 for Pacifica and 434 for Wild Prarie on the Acana website. Those are the 3 he's had.

I only list that because it's the first thing I checked.

I can find everything else in the analysis but the calorie content directly from purina. Anyone know where to find it? I can't see it on their website.
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that is pretty laid back for a 7 month old male Doberman pup, at least any I have known.

most have been pretty wild and on the go.

well hopefully you can get the extra weight off with a little less food and a little more exercise.

if he has trouble keeping extra weight off into adulthood, you may want to have his thyroid levels checked.
I may have undersold him. Laid back "for a doberman puppy". He certainly has plenty of wild in him.

I will certainly monitor his thyroid. It's not enough weight for me to be concerned about a medical issue yet. I doubt most pet owners would even notice it. I've only heard he's overweight from people who are in the confirmation ring every weekend.

From the general public I've gotten "he's a skinny boy" and last week a friend asked me "do they ever fill out when they reach adulthood???" and I had to explain a doberman should be more on the greyhound side than the lab side of the figure scale. Ha. Pretty funny contrast in what I hear re: his weight.

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Interesting. It seems everyone feeds more than me. Nice to hear from someone that's not feeding twice what I do.

Google brings up 449 calories per cup for Pro Plan Chicken & Rice. 489 somewhere else. I can't find it directly from Purina which is annoying.

The Acana Lamb & Apple he's on now shows 395 per cup on the Acana website.

421 for Pacifica and 434 for Wild Prairie on the Acana website. Those are the 3 he's had.

I only list that because it's the first thing I checked.

I can find everything else in the analysis but the calorie content directly from purina. Anyone know where to find it? I can't see it on their website.
I had my boy on Orejin after being on a 4 star large breed puppy kibble four 14 months. He transitioned well. At 18 mo I just introduced Acana Wild Prairie. He has gained 4 lb. in 3 weeks He is still well within his reasonable weight. But something obviously is different and it has to be his diet. Actually, he can use the weight gain. He's looks great. I just cut his daily down, because I don't want it to get out of hand.

Just find the kibble that works best. Don't sweat it. There is so much good food out there. Or do what lot's of folks do here.. Feed raw.

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Recent pics don't show his waist well but here are a couple if they help at all:







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Handsome guy. Honestly, I would not get caught up in the diet hoopla. Just keep an open eye.

With respect to "filling out", don't even think about it until your boy is 2 yo. some dogs closer to 3.
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Handsome guy. Honestly, I would not get caught up in the diet hoopla. Just keep an open eye.
Thanks. I'm hoping it sorts itself out. I think his breeder doesn't believe I've cut his diet so much with no results, tho. Ha. Especially considering she's feeding her male pup TWICE what I feed.

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That comment was from someone completely unfamiliar with the breed. Most people tend to think all medium/large breed dogs should look like the typical overweight lab/sausage with legs which are so common 'round here.

He was 62lbs last week. Born 9/5/15. Guess I left that out.
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I don't think he looks bad. Different dogs are built different ways, and even dogs from the same litter can grow so very differently. I wouldn't stress over this; you sound like such a caring and attentive owner, I have no doubt he is in good hands.
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Gosh, he is so gorgeous- what I lovely boy you have!


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For me, the feeding guidelines on the bag are a starting place. If he is too heavy for his frame, just cut back a bit. I would wait a while, though, and see what he looks like in a few weeks since you just cut back. Don't go by what his siblings eat - each dog is different, has a different metabolism, etc. Go by what your dog looks like and what his needs are.

I like my dogs lean, with a bit of the last rib showing. I want the least stress on their joints possible. Your guy doesn't look fat, though it's hard to tell from the photos. Ignore the general public - they have no idea what a fit dog looks like!


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