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Hi I had Kaiser's ears done yesterday and he did wonderfully! I think this vet knows what he is doing but just want to make sure we start out right.Attaching a pic. There is no tape just a small piece of mole(sp)? foam which he says falls off in about 3 days to a week. should I be doing anything to prop them up at this point? or just let them lie till stitches out. I know tape is a no no but dont some people glue them up or something? tia!
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Take the Elizabethan collar off for starters. It will only irritate the sutured area and make it more uncomfortable for him. You can leave the ears hanging for 10 days to 2 weeks- whenever the stitches are ready to come out. After that you can begin posting them https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-crop...my-method.html
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I agree. Get it off. I've posted many and never had to use one. The ears only bother them if it is an infection
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Yes please get the collar off. Going to rub the ears. Not needed and stressful to the puppy.
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"Take the Elizabethan collar off for starters."

Best advice.

Also, don't get nervous about posting. You probably have about a couple of weeks to learn about it. Once you get used to it, posting is actually kind of cool. IMO, it gives you and your pup some very special "bonding" time together. I really liked posting my pups' ears. Eventually, so do they.

Read the tutorial, as suggested above and if in doubt, return and ask questions.

Have fun. LOL
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Thanks guys! I am nervous about removing the collar vet said he has to wear it for 2 weeks or he can scratch the stitches out? Also not sure what vet's reaction would be if I come in without it. I have never had a dog that needed a crop so not sure how to handle that. Can they refuse treatment if I dont follow directions? He is the only support for posting i have here so afraid to rock the boat?

Also any opinions on how the crop looks itself?

Forgive his teething on me lol mommy is the best chew toy right now
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Forget the crop (which looks fine). How about Kaiser!?! What a handsome boy.

My suggestion would be to print out the advice you received on DT and take it to your vet.

Ask him/her why the on-line advice is contrary to his practice of collaring after cropping as opposed to using a cup or brace to protect the ears post crop prior to posting.

If you are now owning a Dobie pup, you might have to get used to challenging other's opinions. Sometimes even your vet.

Just my opinion. LOL....

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Have to agree with 4X4 having a dobie sometimes means you will be disagreeing with your vet. Wait until you get to the vaccinations and neutering. I love my vet however we disagree sometimes and he is OK with that.
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Kaiser is doing great! He isn't fussing about the collar he doesnt seem to be bothered at all actually hasn't tried to scratch them yet.

We already did get in an argument with the vet about the Lepto again. They are really pushing it on me but I told him no. I will print out the advice and bring it with me. Not planning on neutering till 2 years.

I have been watching the posting video and trying to learn what I can and am compiling a list for supplies.

Biggest fears are
1.him being in pain. so far no signs
2. infection
3. not posting correctly dont want him going through this for a crop and flop

Kaiser is gorgeous! ty for the compliment I will try and get some pics in the sun tomorrow so they aren't so dark! ty all for talking with me helps alot!
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Been doing ears for 35 years and never put an e collar on a puppy.
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Put it on when u go to the vet if u are worried what he will say.
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What is your advice on playing with him? Should we make him stay still (crate) or can he be out like normal? He is our only dog so no worries about that.
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Just treat him like a normal puppy. The only thing I'd say is probably avoid playing outside if it's really wet like in Florida like it is here right now. Playing is good as it will keep him tired and not thinking about scratching or rubbing his ears and the blood flow will help the tissue heal. Another great thing is to stuff or stuff and freeze a kong for him to keep him occupied when you're not watching him.
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Left a post. came up corrupted.

Will repost later

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Just let him be a normal playful puppy. We do whole litters at a time. They play with each other just like before cropping.

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General is 2 weeks post-op/crop and he came home with a Zen Collar and is still wearing it 80% of his day. Thankfully, he hasn't popped the inner inflatable part but his vet said that if he does to just stuff the outer part of the collar with plastic grocery store bags. General doesn't seem to mind having it on and it does an adequate job keeping him from scratching his ears.

General is my first Dobe so I don't have any experience with other crops/ear protection.

This pic is from the day after his surgery when we brought him home.



This pic was taken yesterday, 9/30/15 after a trip to the vet's office for a re-post by a vet tech.


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ok collar is off! He is very happy hubby is kindof mad but i told him you guys do this all the time so praying it goes ok. we just got done playing and he is in bed for the night. Will update tomorrow.
Also kong question he shows no interest at all tried kibble and peanut butter nada tried cheese and tried yogurt are there some dogs that just dont like it? I had him with the small black but got him the large red to try next loves bully sticks and pig ears though!
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omg he is ADORABLE! Love the zen collar maybe that is more comfortable for them?

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General is 2 weeks post-op/crop and he came home with a Zen Collar and is still wearing it 80% of his day. Thankfully, he hasn't popped the inner inflatable part but his vet said that if he does to just stuff the outer part of the collar with plastic grocery store bags. General doesn't seem to mind having it on and it does an adequate job keeping him from scratching his ears.

General is my first Dobe so I don't have any experience with other crops/ear protection.

This pic is from the day after his surgery when we brought him home.



This pic was taken yesterday, 9/30/15 after a trip to the vet's office for a re-post by a vet tech.

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ok collar is off! He is very happy hubby is kindof mad but i told him you guys do this all the time so praying it goes ok. we just got done playing and he is in bed for the night. Will update tomorrow.
Also kong question he shows no interest at all tried kibble and peanut butter nada tried cheese and tried yogurt are there some dogs that just dont like it? I had him with the small black but got him the large red to try next loves bully sticks and pig ears though!

"hubby is kind of mad"


Forget the hubby! LOL. Its all about the pup now.... Its going to take your "better half" years to figure out why he is no longer the #1 priority in your life. He will eventually. (My wife of 38 years finally did...)
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Good for you for taking off that collar!

Pups do not need anything around their necks after posts. The tube and collar are just not needed and while they may tolerate it......it isn't needed.
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Your vet has their opinions, and should be taken into consideration, but this is YOUR dog and you have the right to refuse treatment you do not feel is appropriate (just like if you yourself walk into a doctor and they want to do something you're not on board with). We never had an e collar on Elka; She sure did learn "no scratch!" really quickly! To this day, when scratching her face, she starts off to the side like she might need to "fool" us, then moves her paw in

Her first Kongs were the smaller blue puppy ones. A little bit softer and lighter for tiny jaws. She's moved up to the larger Red ones now, of course, as the puppy rubber doesn't stand up to adults. She's always been crazy for peanut butter, or yogurt, or cream cheese. She even happily licked sriracha chili sauce off the wall when we wanted her to stop chewing on it!

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I find it amazing that ANY vet would think it is OK to put layers and layers of tape on a wound.
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