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Coursing Ability Test Thread

Okay, since Dobiwankanobi suggested it.... here is the "official" CAT thread. Feel free to post any and all CAT questions, brag, etc. in this thread.

I'm planning on going to a CAT on the 30th and 31st of this month with Ilka. With any luck, she will take to it like a duck to water.


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I'm sure she will, Rosemary!! Even my wild little Papillon chased the lure.


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We'll see you on the 30th and 31st. Did you notice in the premium it said pre-entries were due by Weds, March 28?? Uhhh...March 28 is a Thursday. Better arrange for it to get there no later than the 27th to be safe.

Since we're here...I thought we could also post dates/areas of upcoming CAT's as well.

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-Be prepared to do a lot of waiting!

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Cool! Elsie looooved coursing and 'got it' before she was out of the car lol. Have a video to share once I get a new laptop. It's a shame we only have 1 coursing title here, and its only available to sighthounds.


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I love seeing dobes do lure coursing! Moxie and Mikey (a male I co-own) got to do it at a show last year. They both got a leg but it was raining off and on the second two days and we didn't want to risk them getting hurt so we pulled them. We never have CATs around here I wish we did because Avril would love it I think.

These are 6+ months old but I never shared them.
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Mikey got confused and thought the cone was the lure and started barking at it. :p
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I love seeing dobes do lure coursing! Moxie and Mikey (a male I co-own) got to do it at a show last year. They both got a leg but it was raining off and on the second two days and we didn't want to risk them getting hurt so we pulled them. We never have CATs around here I wish we did because Avril would love it I think.
You guys have way more up there then in Phx. Cascade Coursing Club for one. Vader got his first leg with them. I thought they just had one. I swear Cathy was talking about it.

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This may be a stupid question, but can you title/show a neutered/spayed dog? Loki is 11 months and I think he would LOVE this, but he is neutered...


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Yes - they can be altered.
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Registered (full, limited, and I believe conditional), PAL/ILP (have to be altered), FSS, and Canine Partners (mixed breed and non AKC/FSS breeds, also need to be altered) are all welcome. Dogs with breed disqualifying faults (like parti-color Poodles or white GSD) are also eligible. The only requirement is that they be at least one year old. Intact bitches that are in season are not allowed, though.

You can find more information, plus a link to the regulations and upcoming events here. American Kennel Club - Coursing Ability Test


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They checked Perrin's testicles at the last CAT he ran, which surprised me. They said none or both to run.


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Registered (full, limited, and I believe conditional), PAL/ILP (have to be altered), FSS, and Canine Partners (mixed breed and non AKC/FSS breeds, also need to be altered) are all welcome. Dogs with breed disqualifying faults (like parti-color Poodles or white GSD) are also eligible. The only requirement is that they be at least one year old. Intact bitches that are in season are not allowed, though.

You can find more information, plus a link to the regulations and upcoming events here. American Kennel Club - Coursing Ability Test
Some things I learned at the last CAT
Inspection
-females are "wiped" to ensure they aren't in season
-intact males must have both testicles
-both are made to do a down and back to ensure they aren't lame

ETA-posted at the same time as Eventermal!

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Wow. I didn't know they check the "man parts." V is neutered so he wasn't checked. Interesting.
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Cool thread! This seems like such a great thing to do with your dogs. Vegas would absolutely love it, but I don't think for a moment that it would be kind to her poor structure. Just another thing to add to my list of "things to do someday with puppy!"
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Wow. I didn't know they check the "man parts." V is neutered so he wasn't checked. Interesting.
Maybe a uniball has more speed?!

I'm sure there's a reason...but I didn't ask! Will do so next CAT.

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I want to learn more about coursing and have been looking into it and found there are some trials going on this weekend near me, so I'm going to go watch (Jasmine is too young I think). I saw that the dogs need to be at least 1 year old.
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Whoever said that was incorrect. I won't say "wrong" but maybe "misinformed", as I believe that is the rule for field trials and tests.

Section 3. Eligibility to Enter. Coursing Ability Tests are open to all dogs at least 12 months of age that
are individually registered with the AKC, recorded in the Foundation Stock Service (FSS) program,
individually registered with a foreign or domestic registry organization whose pedigrees are acceptable for
AKC registration, dogs granted a Purebred Alternative Listing (PAL) number, dogs with AKC Limited or
Conditional Registration, or dogs enrolled in the AKC Canine Partners program. Dogs with breed
disqualifications and monorchid/cryptorchid dogs are eligible to participate
. Females in season may not
enter. A dog may enter only once per event. (An event is defined by an event number.)


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Thinking about trying to get out to the one in Monroe MI July 6th-7th. It's a three hour drive for me though. Anyone else?

Might be a stupid question but if I do both days, does that mean I get two legs? (assuming she qualifies, etc.)
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Whoever said that was incorrect. I won't say "wrong" but maybe "misinformed", as I believe that is the rule for field trials and tests.

Section 3. Eligibility to Enter. Coursing Ability Tests are open to all dogs at least 12 months of age that
are individually registered with the AKC, recorded in the Foundation Stock Service (FSS) program,
individually registered with a foreign or domestic registry organization whose pedigrees are acceptable for
AKC registration, dogs granted a Purebred Alternative Listing (PAL) number, dogs with AKC Limited or
Conditional Registration, or dogs enrolled in the AKC Canine Partners program. Dogs with breed
disqualifications and monorchid/cryptorchid dogs are eligible to participate
. Females in season may not
enter. A dog may enter only once per event. (An event is defined by an event number.)
I believe it was the trial secretary. I was there when Eventermal was told that.

However, the CAT did take place immediately following a field trial so the secretary may have forgotten to "switch hats" for the CAT or maybe she was misinformed....

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I want to learn more about coursing and have been looking into it and found there are some trials going on this weekend near me, so I'm going to go watch (Jasmine is too young I think). I saw that the dogs need to be at least 1 year old.
Yes. She will need to be 12 months.

The CAT I was at last weekend allowed "fun runs" for people wanting to try it that had dogs that weren't old enough or dogs they weren't sure would chase. They didn't run the full course...maybe 100 yards. Perhaps you can send an email asking if they allow "fun runs"?

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Thinking about trying to get out to the one in Monroe MI July 6th-7th. It's a three hour drive for me though. Anyone else?

Might be a stupid question but if I do both days, does that mean I get two legs? (assuming she qualifies, etc.)
Yes, every "Pass" is a leg. It takes 3 legs for a CA, 10 legs for a CAA, and 25 legs for a CAX. Every 25 legs you earn after that you get a number added to your CAX (CAX2, CAX3, etc.)


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Yes, every "Pass" is a leg. It takes 3 legs for a CA, 10 legs for a CAA, and 25 legs for a CAX. Every 25 legs you earn after that you get a number added to your CAX (CAX2, CAX3, etc.)
Ok, great. So if I go on July 6th and 7th, the max I can get is two legs, correct? One per day? Just making sure I understand! Thank you again.
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Yes, every "Pass" is a leg. It takes 3 legs for a CA, 10 legs for a CAA, and 25 legs for a CAX. Every 25 legs you earn after that you get a number added to your CAX (CAX2, CAX3, etc.)
Also, they must gain two of those legs under different judges.

Here's how it's listed in a recent premium that was helpful to me.
*Coursing Ability (CA) – Awarded to a dog that passes the Coursing Ability Test three times under at least two different judges.
*Coursing Ability Advanced (CAA) Dog passes the Coursing Ability Test ten times (CA + 7 additional passes)
*Coursing Ability Excellent (CAX) – Dog passes the Coursing Ability Test 25 times. Coursing Ability Excellent 2 (CAX2) –Dog passes the Coursing Ability Test 50 times.
*A higher numbered title will be awarded for every additional twenty five passes.

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Ok, great. So if I go on July 6th and 7th, the max I can get is two legs, correct? One per day? Just making sure I understand! Thank you again.
Yes. You are correct.

One per day because you are allowed only one entry per event. I suppose if they listed two seperate events on one day that you could pick up 2 legs???

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