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Rosemary 03-20-2013 04:01 PM

Coursing Ability Test Thread
 
Okay, since Dobiwankanobi suggested it.... here is the "official" CAT thread. :) Feel free to post any and all CAT questions, brag, etc. in this thread.

I'm planning on going to a CAT on the 30th and 31st of this month with Ilka. With any luck, she will take to it like a duck to water.

AuraDobe 03-20-2013 04:09 PM

I'm sure she will, Rosemary!! Even my wild little Papillon chased the lure.

Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 04:16 PM

We'll see you on the 30th and 31st. Did you notice in the premium it said pre-entries were due by Weds, March 28?? Uhhh...March 28 is a Thursday. Better arrange for it to get there no later than the 27th to be safe.

Since we're here...I thought we could also post dates/areas of upcoming CAT's as well.

March 30-31: Cat Spring, TX
April 20-21: Brenham, TX

Suggestions:
-Bring canopy even though Eventermal says it will be "overkill". The word pasture = no trees anywhere.
-Bring Snacks. There was no food anywhere when we went to Florence!
-Bring more water than you think you'll need.
-Bring a cool coat!
-Be prepared to do a lot of waiting!

Sizzledog 03-20-2013 04:20 PM

Upcoming midwest CATs:

Valley Center, KS April 5-6 (2 CATs on Friday, 1 on Saturday)
http://www.nwakennelclub.com/images/...-April2013.pdf

Des Moines, IA April 20-21 (1 CAT Saturday, 1 CAT Sunday)
I can email you a premium... can't find it online. Entries are VERY limited for this one, so if you want to go to this one be sure to enter ASAP.

Ramsey, MN May 5 (1 CAT Sunday)
Premium isn't available yet, but will be here eventually: Greater Twin Cities Afghan Hound Club - Lure Coursing Information

Here are photos from Kaylee's 4th CAA leg... she will finish her CAA on May 5th in Ramsey.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04177.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04186.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04191.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04192.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04201.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04215.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04216.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSC04217.jpg

the_discowhore 03-20-2013 04:23 PM

Cool! Elsie looooved coursing and 'got it' before she was out of the car lol. Have a video to share once I get a new laptop. It's a shame we only have 1 coursing title here, and its only available to sighthounds.

Dobelove 03-20-2013 04:34 PM

I love seeing dobes do lure coursing! Moxie and Mikey (a male I co-own) got to do it at a show last year. They both got a leg but it was raining off and on the second two days and we didn't want to risk them getting hurt so we pulled them. We never have CATs around here :( I wish we did because Avril would love it I think.

These are 6+ months old but I never shared them.
Taken by my crappy cell phone
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psed42c08e.jpg
Mikey got confused and thought the cone was the lure and started barking at it. :p
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psc41b6f8f.jpg

Jenny 03-20-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobelove (Post 1543298)
I love seeing dobes do lure coursing! Moxie and Mikey (a male I co-own) got to do it at a show last year. They both got a leg but it was raining off and on the second two days and we didn't want to risk them getting hurt so we pulled them. We never have CATs around here :( I wish we did because Avril would love it I think.

You guys have way more up there then in Phx. Cascade Coursing Club for one. Vader got his first leg with them. I thought they just had one. I swear Cathy was talking about it.

ETA: http://www.cascadecoursing.org/cat.html

Sizzledog 03-20-2013 04:38 PM


Mintyfresh 03-20-2013 05:07 PM

Coursing Ability Test Thread
 
This may be a stupid question, but can you title/show a neutered/spayed dog? Loki is 11 months and I think he would LOVE this, but he is neutered...


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Jenny 03-20-2013 05:09 PM

Yes - they can be altered.

Rosemary 03-20-2013 05:21 PM

Registered (full, limited, and I believe conditional), PAL/ILP (have to be altered), FSS, and Canine Partners (mixed breed and non AKC/FSS breeds, also need to be altered) are all welcome. Dogs with breed disqualifying faults (like parti-color Poodles or white GSD) are also eligible. The only requirement is that they be at least one year old. Intact bitches that are in season are not allowed, though.

You can find more information, plus a link to the regulations and upcoming events here. American Kennel Club - Coursing Ability Test

AuraDobe 03-20-2013 05:26 PM

Coursing Ability Test Thread
 
They checked Perrin's testicles at the last CAT he ran, which surprised me. They said none or both to run.


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Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 1543682)
Registered (full, limited, and I believe conditional), PAL/ILP (have to be altered), FSS, and Canine Partners (mixed breed and non AKC/FSS breeds, also need to be altered) are all welcome. Dogs with breed disqualifying faults (like parti-color Poodles or white GSD) are also eligible. The only requirement is that they be at least one year old. Intact bitches that are in season are not allowed, though.

You can find more information, plus a link to the regulations and upcoming events here. American Kennel Club - Coursing Ability Test

Some things I learned at the last CAT
Inspection
-females are "wiped" to ensure they aren't in season
-intact males must have both testicles
-both are made to do a down and back to ensure they aren't lame

ETA-posted at the same time as Eventermal!

Jenny 03-20-2013 05:34 PM

Wow. I didn't know they check the "man parts." V is neutered so he wasn't checked. Interesting.

Abby 03-20-2013 05:34 PM

Cool thread! This seems like such a great thing to do with your dogs. Vegas would absolutely love it, but I don't think for a moment that it would be kind to her poor structure. Just another thing to add to my list of "things to do someday with puppy!"

Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny (Post 1543882)
Wow. I didn't know they check the "man parts." V is neutered so he wasn't checked. Interesting.

Maybe a uniball has more speed?! :D

I'm sure there's a reason...but I didn't ask! Will do so next CAT.

dobiegrl 03-20-2013 05:39 PM

I want to learn more about coursing and have been looking into it and found there are some trials going on this weekend near me, so I'm going to go watch (Jasmine is too young I think). I saw that the dogs need to be at least 1 year old.

Rosemary 03-20-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eventermal (Post 1543754)
They checked Perrin's testicles at the last CAT he ran, which surprised me. They said none or both to run.


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Whoever said that was incorrect. I won't say "wrong" but maybe "misinformed", as I believe that is the rule for field trials and tests.

Section 3. Eligibility to Enter. Coursing Ability Tests are open to all dogs at least 12 months of age that
are individually registered with the AKC, recorded in the Foundation Stock Service (FSS) program,
individually registered with a foreign or domestic registry organization whose pedigrees are acceptable for
AKC registration, dogs granted a Purebred Alternative Listing (PAL) number, dogs with AKC Limited or
Conditional Registration, or dogs enrolled in the AKC Canine Partners program. Dogs with breed
disqualifications and monorchid/cryptorchid dogs are eligible to participate
. Females in season may not
enter. A dog may enter only once per event. (An event is defined by an event number.)

ajp240 03-20-2013 05:44 PM

Thinking about trying to get out to the one in Monroe MI July 6th-7th. It's a three hour drive for me though. :( Anyone else?

Might be a stupid question but if I do both days, does that mean I get two legs? (assuming she qualifies, etc.)

Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 1543954)
Whoever said that was incorrect. I won't say "wrong" but maybe "misinformed", as I believe that is the rule for field trials and tests.

Section 3. Eligibility to Enter. Coursing Ability Tests are open to all dogs at least 12 months of age that
are individually registered with the AKC, recorded in the Foundation Stock Service (FSS) program,
individually registered with a foreign or domestic registry organization whose pedigrees are acceptable for
AKC registration, dogs granted a Purebred Alternative Listing (PAL) number, dogs with AKC Limited or
Conditional Registration, or dogs enrolled in the AKC Canine Partners program. Dogs with breed
disqualifications and monorchid/cryptorchid dogs are eligible to participate
. Females in season may not
enter. A dog may enter only once per event. (An event is defined by an event number.)

I believe it was the trial secretary. I was there when Eventermal was told that.

However, the CAT did take place immediately following a field trial so the secretary may have forgotten to "switch hats" for the CAT or maybe she was misinformed....

Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobiegrl (Post 1543938)
I want to learn more about coursing and have been looking into it and found there are some trials going on this weekend near me, so I'm going to go watch (Jasmine is too young I think). I saw that the dogs need to be at least 1 year old.

Yes. She will need to be 12 months.

The CAT I was at last weekend allowed "fun runs" for people wanting to try it that had dogs that weren't old enough or dogs they weren't sure would chase. They didn't run the full course...maybe 100 yards. Perhaps you can send an email asking if they allow "fun runs"?

Rosemary 03-20-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajp240 (Post 1543978)
Thinking about trying to get out to the one in Monroe MI July 6th-7th. It's a three hour drive for me though. :( Anyone else?

Might be a stupid question but if I do both days, does that mean I get two legs? (assuming she qualifies, etc.)

Yes, every "Pass" is a leg. It takes 3 legs for a CA, 10 legs for a CAA, and 25 legs for a CAX. Every 25 legs you earn after that you get a number added to your CAX (CAX2, CAX3, etc.)

ajp240 03-20-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 1544050)
Yes, every "Pass" is a leg. It takes 3 legs for a CA, 10 legs for a CAA, and 25 legs for a CAX. Every 25 legs you earn after that you get a number added to your CAX (CAX2, CAX3, etc.)

Ok, great. So if I go on July 6th and 7th, the max I can get is two legs, correct? One per day? Just making sure I understand! Thank you again.

Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 1544050)
Yes, every "Pass" is a leg. It takes 3 legs for a CA, 10 legs for a CAA, and 25 legs for a CAX. Every 25 legs you earn after that you get a number added to your CAX (CAX2, CAX3, etc.)

Also, they must gain two of those legs under different judges.

Here's how it's listed in a recent premium that was helpful to me.
*Coursing Ability (CA) – Awarded to a dog that passes the Coursing Ability Test three times under at least two different judges.
*Coursing Ability Advanced (CAA) Dog passes the Coursing Ability Test ten times (CA + 7 additional passes)
*Coursing Ability Excellent (CAX) – Dog passes the Coursing Ability Test 25 times. Coursing Ability Excellent 2 (CAX2) –Dog passes the Coursing Ability Test 50 times.
*A higher numbered title will be awarded for every additional twenty five passes.

Dobiewankanobi 03-20-2013 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajp240 (Post 1544098)
Ok, great. So if I go on July 6th and 7th, the max I can get is two legs, correct? One per day? Just making sure I understand! Thank you again.

Yes. You are correct.

One per day because you are allowed only one entry per event. I suppose if they listed two seperate events on one day that you could pick up 2 legs???


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