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I do believe back side of the jumps are here, thats` for sure, plus I am seeing a lot of obstacle discriminations. (dog walk and tunnel right next to each other after a jump) (Starts with a tire, than a dog walk and a tunnel right next to each other). This is hard for us and we are working on it. I think I only had one of these obstacle set ups last year and this year I have seen at least 6 in the last couple of months on the Standard Course runs.
I will be curious to see what the next trials have to offer.

Good job with Flirt. I love love to hear and watch about doberman trial runs.
If you can lead out, this is what my instructor does. If she is past the tunnel to the middle of the dog walk, the dog KNOWS to take the dog walk, not the tunnel. If she's near the tunnel, take the tunnel. This only works at beginning of sequences though obviously. It's one "easy" way to clue them in. It also requires independent dog walk. I've seen the same discrimminations in probably 70% of our recent trials. I'll probably jinx myself but for the first time EVER I got one right with my older Vizsla (tunnel suck).

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You see some of that in the excellent fast send bonus. All you can do is run along the tape and yell from 15-20' out. Once he clears the lead-in obstacle I start yelling "get in there" if it's the tunnel or "up up up" if it's the walk. I keep my arms down at my sides. Also if I hang far back and let him get ahead we have better success.
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No title this weekend.

They cancelled the trials at Crown in Maryland because of the hurricane. I hope there is something left of the east coast after Irene gets done with us.

Bacchus and I will sit home and ride out the hurricane and dream about the elusive master fast title!!
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No title this weekend.

They cancelled the trials at Crown in Maryland because of the hurricane. I hope there is something left of the east coast after Irene gets done with us.

Bacchus and I will sit home and ride out the hurricane and dream about the elusive master fast title!!
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Tali had her best night in group training yet this week! She was so happy and so much more relaxed. They only had one ring going so there weren't other people and dogs running around to stress her. Just me, Tali, a trainer, and an assistant on the floor. I'm focusing more on individual work with her right now and going to the club during off hours. I want to get her as comfortable with the equipment as I can before asking a lot of her with the environment. So I'm glad the trainers have eased the pressure a bit by setting up one ring for now. I'm also looking into private lessons and have spoke with a couple trainers in the area that come highly recommended. I just need to give them a try and see who will be a good fit for us.

Fiona has been cruising along wonderfully. We're still having some issues with our rear cross but it's because of me. I'm improving and getting there. Her contact work is getting better and better each week. But we've had a set back. She landed wrong coming off a jump last night and sprained her right knee. She immediately looked worried and began favoring it. Spent last night icing it and she's on crate rest for a couple days. The vet asked me to bring her by tomorrow for a quick look.




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We got second (24in.) Only 3 dogs qualified. Tamora only had 2 strides and was at the next jump. You needed a stay at the start line and you had to micro manage this opening sequence. It was very hard and if I ever saw it again I would not run it. Too hard on the dogs joints I think. (unatural sharp turns--because of call offs for me) (Not a course for our big striding dobermans) (not a course for making good yardage either). (we have a super fast BC (26in.) going for international/world?/times and even he did not make the times he needed--not even close and he could not have run it any faster.

Judge was Edie Allyn.
Edie is a fun judge but she does like to challenge handlers and their dogs. She runs Cockers - small dogs. I always like to know what a judge runs because it sometimes gives insight to what their courses will be like. Do you by any chance know how the small dogs did qualifying? Thanks for sharing.

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We've been focusing on finding the back of a jump in class the last 2 weeks. I keep hearing how it is more and more and more common in AKC courses. I was pleased that even though we are beginners in a more advanced class, Flirt rocked it. We had our fumbles, but she got the hard things. The way we taught "build value in a jump", 180s and then 270s, leads perfectly to sending her out behind a jump.

We have had that in our classes also. This week we did jump to tunnel then had to direct the dog around to the back of the jump again and into the end of the tunnel they just came out of. Whew!

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Edie is a fun judge but she does like to challenge handlers and their dogs. She runs Cockers - small dogs. I always like to know what a judge runs because it sometimes gives insight to what their courses will be like. Do you by any chance know how the small dogs did qualifying? Thanks for sharing.
It's a been awhile since I've seen Edie judge. Her courses used to be nice and flowing. But that course was just plain ugly! I don't mind challenges but I don't like those that are physically hard on the dogs.
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If you have a "large" dog that lands deep and then needs a stride or two to collect himself a tight or choppy course is hard on them. They have to cut down on the speed and put more strain on their bodies to make the turns. I haven't been doing agility very long but I think small dogs have an advantage. I would like to see:

The contact zones painted different colors and sizes for different size dogs. The way it is now It's hard for a small dog not to make the contact.
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If you have a "large" dog that lands deep and then needs a stride or two to collect himself a tight or choppy course is hard on them. They have to cut down on the speed and put more strain on their bodies to make the turns. I haven't been doing agility very long but I think small dogs have an advantage. I would like to see:

The contact zones painted different colors and sizes for different size dogs. The way it is now It's hard for a small dog not to make the contact.
Ha Ha Ha. I would beg to differ with you, it has nothing to do with the size of the dog. Any size dog that obediently runs along with its handler always has an advantage. I will agree it is usually the small dogs you see doing this, but there are also larger ones too.

I run a Boston Terrier. He always runs at least 3 obstacles ahead of me (he is fast and I am old and slow) and has running contacts except for the teeter which I had to retrain to a four on, because of fly offs which kept resulting in Fs. I have been unsuccessful getting him to slow down on the other contacts. He always has air over the A-frame and if I do not tell him "bottom" in a timely manner, he can fly off the A-frame far above the contact. The dog walk can be even worse.

My first agility dog was a Dobe and right now this little dog. I would much rather run a Dobe, even a fast one, than a small fast dog. Dobes can be so proficient at doing the 2o2o contacts. In my opinion, with proper foundation there should be no difference with any size dog getting their contacts. My BT is trained to run all the way down the obstacle straight to the floor. Are there times he gets air bound, yes, especially if a tunnel is looming as the next obstacle.

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It's a been awhile since I've seen Edie judge. Her courses used to be nice and flowing. But that course was just plain ugly! I don't mind challenges but I don't like those that are physically hard on the dogs.
The turn back has been on almost every course we have run this summer. Along with stacked obstacles that required more distance handling with good discrimination skills. I think it might be a preview of the future. Tougher courses meaning less Qs. Since AKC took the table discrimination out, I know four people who have MACHed or are getting ready to MACH because they can get their dog on the table but they couldn't get a sit or down in previous runs. Making it easier one way means making it more difficult elsewhere. Of course, this is just my own humble opinion..

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I run a Boston Terrier. He always runs at least 3 obstacles ahead of me (he is fast and I am old and slow) and has running contacts except for the teeter which I had to retrain to a four on, because of fly offs which kept resulting in Fs. I have been unsuccessful getting him to slow down on the other contacts. He always has air over the A-frame and if I do not tell him "bottom" in a timely manner, he can fly off the A-frame far above the contact. The dog walk can be even worse.
I can't count the number of high drive Shelties I see missing contacts

I do think it may be harder to teach a running contact on a longer striding dog, but I see small dogs have just as many problems.

Bostons are one of the breeds I've fallen in love with from afar. I've only met a handful but they've all been silly and high energy like my Vizslas.

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Tali had her best night in group training yet this week! She was so happy and so much more relaxed. They only had one ring going so there weren't other people and dogs running around to stress her. Just me, Tali, a trainer, and an assistant on the floor. I'm focusing more on individual work with her right now and going to the club during off hours. I want to get her as comfortable with the equipment as I can before asking a lot of her with the environment. So I'm glad the trainers have eased the pressure a bit by setting up one ring for now. I'm also looking into private lessons and have spoke with a couple trainers in the area that come highly recommended. I just need to give them a try and see who will be a good fit for us.

Fiona has been cruising along wonderfully. We're still having some issues with our rear cross but it's because of me. I'm improving and getting there. Her contact work is getting better and better each week. But we've had a set back. She landed wrong coming off a jump last night and sprained her right knee. She immediately looked worried and began favoring it. Spent last night icing it and she's on crate rest for a couple days. The vet asked me to bring her by tomorrow for a quick look.
Look into having some Traumeel on hand. This was recomend by a sports vet. Its herbal and good stuff. Can`t hurt the dog. People friendly too.
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Edie is a fun judge but she does like to challenge handlers and their dogs. She runs Cockers - small dogs. I always like to know what a judge runs because it sometimes gives insight to what their courses will be like. Do you by any chance know how the small dogs did qualifying? Thanks for sharing.
Not sure about the little dogs for that run. This was our last run of the day and we left. In general though for the weekend the smaller dogs did better as a whole on this particular weekend.
Her wheeling was not generous at all for the big dogs. Big dogs on this particular run were adding 8 seconds to their normal running times.
Not real good times for the other runs either.
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It's a been awhile since I've seen Edie judge. Her courses used to be nice and flowing. But that course was just plain ugly! I don't mind challenges but I don't like those that are physically hard on the dogs.
I'm used to seeing Edie a lot since she used to live in my area; I heard she moved. She's a lot of fun; love her hats but that course IS just dirty. I really hope she doesn't bring it to VA for a future assignment.

I also dislike courses that are physically hard on the dogs.
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Well we didn't make the team (not surprised though!), Schultz mucked around with his weave entries in every run, we only managed 1 clear round out of 4 runs! We did have a very big victory though, our club won back the club trial shield for the year!!!! First time in 6 years we have held it! Hopefully we will have it for many more years to come with lots of great new dogs coming up through the ranks!

I met my new agility dog on Monday night, she is wonderful! Dazzle's owner will probably go back to running Dazzle most of the time next year as her other dog is about 11 years old and going deaf- she still enjoys agility, but I think it's Dazzles time to shine with her owner... so very luckily I have had another dog dropped in my lap for training! I am so lucky

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I am trying to sketch things from my class now, and make notes. We did our first full course on Friday. It was a JWW course, and we were able to figure out our own path and then afterward we worked on our areas that needed a better line. I don't have a good program to sketch things, but I made an attempt. The rectangles are jumps, the big rectangle/square is a broad jump, and then 12 weaves and 2 tunnels one long skinny rectangle). Not sure if my numbers are in the right place for officialness, but I know what they meant. I did ok - I remembered the course which I was worried about. Pula was quick and we are able to work at distance reasonably well, and she was really working with me. I got a one jump lead out, which was great for her since she does not like to stay at the start. Our jumps are low, like 14-16 inches.

I might get a course drawing program from CleanRun, but I need to update my old mac first with new OS. I still work off of 10.4. No Leopard or Lion yet for me.

Here is a pdf of or course. Green lines - dog, red lines, me. Of course, not to scale.
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Here is a pdf of or course. Green lines - dog, red lines, me. Of course, not to scale.
What level is Pula? Seems like a tough course especially right there going to 14... I almost guarantee Jones would have taken one of the jumps



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What level is Pula? Seems like a tough course especially right there going to 14... I almost guarantee Jones would have taken one of the jumps

GREAT JOB Those are some tough wraps in between jumps.

do you know how to send the dog around the other side as an option also? Wraps are great but I also use a "flip" to the other side if it's easier on my dog or if they are on that lead and sometimes so I aviod traps. Instead of wrapping the dog around back to you, you flip them around the other standard. It would not have been the move at 3-4 because you'd then be at the wrong side of the tunnel. It might have been another option for 13-14 and avoiding the jump 12.

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Yeah it's a great idea! When we are at trials we will note down difficult sections of a course and take them to club on Monday to practice!


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do you know how to send the dog around the other side as an option also? Wraps are great but I also use a "flip" to the other side if it's easier on my dog or if they are on that lead and sometimes so I aviod traps. Instead of wrapping the dog around back to you, you flip them around the other standard. It would not have been the move at 3-4 because you'd then be at the wrong side of the tunnel. It might have been another option for 13-14 and avoiding the jump 12.
I don't know if you were asking me or Rocket, but looking at this course I would have ran it different, knowing Jonesy.. Jonesy has a very long stride, and at class we have been trying to work on tightening him up...

I edited your lines Rocket, I hope you don't mind

I hope the lines aren't to hard to follow... I tried to make it so none are over lapping...

3 would have been an "out" and wrap to 4 (tunnel)
I would have treated 12-13 more like a serpentine, and pulled from the outside, and not gone through the 2 jumps... I don't know if that is what you meant by flip
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I ran this a couple of times with different methods in different places. I did the wrap for 12-13 the first time. The instructor had us try it a different way so we could learn options, and that is what I showed here. TO be honest, as this was my first one, I wasn't sure how to work it. I learned a lot.

I wish I could lead out further, as I wanted to start past two, but Pula will not stay with me that far away. She stresses and kind of slinks forward.

Pula is 19 months, and we are beginners. She is fast and can pull some amazing tight turns. We have been training with flat work and handling for about 6-7 months. I am in a class with all dogs about the same age. We have been back chaining courses and pieces before, and we do different things in different weeks. I have never run a dog in agility, so this is all new to me.

We did an outer loop at the end of class that was fun. We always try to end on an easier, fun run - for us and the dogs.

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I don't know if everyone knows this but there is a website that has courses from akc, ukc, etc. that you can print out and use. You can search using just the judges name or the class you run. Very helpful to practice your "plan A".

That was a pretty twisty course.
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