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VZ-Doberman 03-06-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by alwayshadpets (Post 1057639)
Atlas now has his NAJ title. He ran and got it yesterday. He is now in open.
We still have things to work on, but it sure was fun.

Tamora is running well--lots of Q`s and points.

Congrats!

Jenny 03-06-2012 01:59 PM

Vader has his first trial this weekend - wish me luck. . . he'll be fine :)

We are just doing DOCNA jumpers. . . So hopefully it will be a super fun experience for him.

the_discowhore 03-06-2012 02:14 PM

Susan Garrett's latest newsletter said she is releasing an online course later this month for contacts...

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Later this month, I am going to be launching my biggest online project to date: "Say Yes to Contact Success." The course will cover everything you will need to know in order to train jaw dropping contacts for agility. This course will be w-a-y more comprehensive than anyone can imagine as it will cover: foundation games, body awareness exercises, up contact training, step-by-step instruction to my stopped contact training and yes . . . I will also spill the beans on the foundation for my new running contact training.
Hmmm bet it will be a few hundred $$$ :(

alwayshadpets 03-06-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenny (Post 1058799)
Vader has his first trial this weekend - wish me luck. . . he'll be fine :)

We are just doing DOCNA jumpers. . . So hopefully it will be a super fun experience for him.

Fingers and paws crossed. Make sure you check in and let us know. And have fun!

lestat1978 03-07-2012 10:48 AM

Ivan's first agility practice went well. They had a flat teeter on the ground and we were just getting the dog used to putting his feet on the board. We did the buja board. Ivan was a little unsure on this, but would put his front feet on. We also did the tunnel, which Ivan excelled at as expected. We also got the dog used to entering the weave poles - just walking between the first two poles from the correct side. We also did 4" jumps. My instructor did say Ivan wouldn't be able to do full height jumps or weaves until his growth plates were closed, so that's encouraging.

I'm already checking out another facility for his next set of agility classes as I'm told the instructor doing the next set where I'm currently going isn't highly thought of - rushing dogs and setting them up to fail.

doberdeer 03-08-2012 12:19 AM

Finally, finally, finally.........I am seeing a light at the end of the doberteen tunnel! Ruger had a good (for him) night at class tonight. He is way too fast for me to run with him, so a few weeks ago (while in zoomie mode) the trainer used a throw water bottle. Well, Ruger shut down. It did slow him down quite a bit though. Micky D's chicken nuggets helped with his success tonight. I guess I need to change up the treats for him. He gets board with the norm...

I did take a rope toy and a ball for him to play with when waiting for his turn in the ring. I think that kept him "up". He seemed to be having fun again. Yeah!!!

Now, if we can keep the upswing we will be in good shape.

Jenny 03-09-2012 07:57 AM

I think I've lost my mind. I just registered V for a usdaa number. We are going to run in their intro trial toward the end of march. Thinking of standards FEO and jumpers for real. Now to figure out the entry form! He will run performance and jump 22. It's a one day trial they are attempting to sneak in before it gets hot. Hopefully the weather cooperates!

VZ-Doberman 03-09-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by doberdeer (Post 1059909)
Finally, finally, finally.........I am seeing a light at the end of the doberteen tunnel! Ruger had a good (for him) night at class tonight. He is way too fast for me to run with him, so a few weeks ago (while in zoomie mode) the trainer used a throw water bottle. Well, Ruger shut down. It did slow him down quite a bit though. Micky D's chicken nuggets helped with his success tonight. I guess I need to change up the treats for him. He gets board with the norm...

I did take a rope toy and a ball for him to play with when waiting for his turn in the ring. I think that kept him "up". He seemed to be having fun again. Yeah!!!

Now, if we can keep the upswing we will be in good shape.


No trainer here but early on I had "Banzai Bacchus". No way could I keep up with him! Over time he came to realize we run together. Sometimes I am in the front, sometimes I am side by side and lots of him in the front. If he gets too far in front he has been known to pick his own course. They pick up that it is a team effort eventually. You and your partner will work out the details and become a team. It takes time and lots of running. We are still working on it.

Personally I don't take a toy or tug outside the ring. It gets him too worked up. We're there to work. He stands calmly and waits to go into the ring. I want him cool, calm and collected for the run. We do our crazy party stuff at the end of the run outside the ring. I see the border collie people working their dogs into a state and then into the ring. They run extremely fast. But speed is not always your friend. I try for accuracy then work up the speed. JMO

Try Zukes. Bacchus loves them. They're small, not greasy and come in different flavors.

the_discowhore 03-09-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VZ-Doberman (Post 1060625)
Personally I don't take a toy or tug outside the ring. It gets him too worked up. We're there to work. He stands calmly and waits to go into the ring. I want him cool, calm and collected for the run. We do our crazy party stuff at the end of the run outside the ring. I see the border collie people working their dogs into a state and then into the ring. They run extremely fast. But speed is not always your friend. I try for accuracy then work up the speed. JMO

Yep you'll know with your own dog what works. Both of the schnauzers (giant and standard) I run don't get hyped up before we go into the ring, it's the last thing they need, their brains will go into orbit and they'll lose the plot and pick their owns courses. We just do some obedience stuff and reward with lots of treats to keep them calm before we go in, heel work and quick sits/downs.

Elsie on the other hand, she is the sort of dog you can get really riled up before training, if you push her too far she will attack your pant legs (that's the terrier there I guess!), but getting her worked up gets her working really hard and with a lot of enthusiasm.

Jenny 03-11-2012 09:10 PM

V got a Q!!! Yesterday we ran beginners jumpers and we did all the jumps in the correct order! We were over time by 0.8 seconds do to someone (me) losing contact with him. Today we did jumpers and strategic time gamblers. We got enough points but we were too fast. So no Q. But we got first place and the Q in jumpers! Woohoo. We has a blast. It was a DOCNA trial. Oh and V was the only dobe. Can't wait til the next trial! End of April. We will run usdaa in 2 weeks it's an intro trial. We will also do an akc trial in April. Only jumpers w weaves. He is currently crashed on the couch!

alwayshadpets 03-12-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenny (Post 1062097)
V got a Q!!! Yesterday we ran beginners jumpers and we did all the jumps in the correct order! We were over time by 0.8 seconds do to someone (me) losing contact with him. Today we did jumpers and strategic time gamblers. We got enough points but we were too fast. So no Q. But we got first place and the Q in jumpers! Woohoo. We has a blast. It was a DOCNA trial. Oh and V was the only dobe. Can't wait til the next trial! End of April. We will run usdaa in 2 weeks it's an intro trial. We will also do an akc trial in April. Only jumpers w weaves. He is currently crashed on the couch!

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love anything that results in a crash on the couch.

alwayshadpets 03-12-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenny (Post 1060610)
I think I've lost my mind. I just registered V for a usdaa number. We are going to run in their intro trial toward the end of march. Thinking of standards FEO and jumpers for real. Now to figure out the entry form! He will run performance and jump 22. It's a one day trial they are attempting to sneak in before it gets hot. Hopefully the weather cooperates!

No you did not lose your mind. You are now an addict.:D

mangujowa 03-12-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lestat1978 (Post 1059396)
I'm already checking out another facility for his next set of agility classes as I'm told the instructor doing the next set where I'm currently going isn't highly thought of - rushing dogs and setting them up to fail.

Taking it slow with a really good foundations course really helps.

Uuuuuugh, which silly boy has never knocked a 24 or 26" jump, but has a 20% chance of knocking a 22", and 50% chance of knocking anything 20" and below? Niz is the only dog that is jumping 24" in the class at the moment (there are other dogs that will be jumping 24" as their full height) and so everyone has to get out and change the jump heights just for us. :X

Second week of learning weaves (still at 12" apart channel weaves) and the instructor teaches all 12 at once/in a row... Niz is better at my crappy stick in the ground green fence posts than the actual weave set, but I really don't want to have to spend that much money on a set of real poles (we have to have 12 at home).

Jenny 03-12-2012 11:12 PM

Vader jumps 20 in class usually. He can jump 24 or 26 but I don't want to stress his joints. He will run preferred in as I dont want him jumping so high. I want to keep him sound as long as possible. Vader is 27.5?and weighs 84.9.

mangujowa 03-12-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenny (Post 1062742)
Vader jumps 20 in class usually. He can jump 24 or 26 but I don't want to stress his joints. He will run preferred in as I dont want him jumping so high. I want to keep him sound as long as possible. Vader is 27.5?and weighs 84.9.

Unfortunately, I can't jump him less than 24 because he'll just knock bars left and right. Niz is 27.25 and 65lbs with OFA good hips (vet thought borderline good/excellent) and on joint supplements, so I'm hoping he'll come out okay. I'm honestly more worried about his heart throwing in the towel before his joints. Does anyone else jump their dog regularly at full height?

the_discowhore 03-12-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mangujowa (Post 1062746)
Unfortunately, I can't jump him less than 24 because he'll just knock bars left and right. Niz is 27.25 and 65lbs with OFA good hips (vet thought borderline good/excellent) and on joint supplements, so I'm hoping he'll come out okay. I'm honestly more worried about his heart throwing in the towel before his joints. Does anyone else jump their dog regularly at full height?

Most people I know train regularly at full height, unless they have a very large breed dog like a giant schnauzer then they train at the height below (we have 4 jump heights > 11.8", 14.9", 22.4" and 26.5")

the_discowhore 03-12-2012 11:43 PM

Elsie's agility training is going well so far, she has brilliant waits (no easy feat for her!), she is the queen of the wobble board, doing awesome with all of the rear end awareness work and can work/play with other dogs very close by. She has been to a few trials and is happy to sit down between the two rings and chew on something while we watch agility (I love a dog that can just hang out without getting wound up), and equally as happy to do heel work and tug between the rings if that's what I want!

We have done 3 of the Susan Salo puppy jumping grids (usually 1 a month) with loads of success, and she drives into tunnels from all sorts of weird angles and is not at all bothered by them.

Jenny 03-13-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mangujowa (Post 1062746)
Unfortunately, I can't jump him less than 24 because he'll just knock bars left and right. Niz is 27.25 and 65lbs with OFA good hips (vet thought borderline good/excellent) and on joint supplements, so I'm hoping he'll come out okay. I'm honestly more worried about his heart throwing in the towel before his joints. Does anyone else jump their dog regularly at full height?

Wow he's light! It is the front end I worry about. Shoulders especially. We do put him up to full height before trials. V will drop bars below 20 because he doesn't put in the effort to get over them. I'd like v to loose maybe a pound or 2 but below 80 I think he'd look anerexic.

I hope you have many many more years with him.

alwayshadpets 03-13-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the_discowhore (Post 1062755)
Most people I know train regularly at full height, unless they have a very large breed dog like a giant schnauzer then they train at the height below (we have 4 jump heights > 11.8", 14.9", 22.4" and 26.5")

Your right most will train trial height or a height higher right before a trial--thats` if their dog is a bar knocker.

Atlas & Tamora are high jumpers so I can get away jumping 20" for practice or training (mainly Atlas) But most of the time they will train 24"

VZ-Doberman 03-13-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mangujowa (Post 1062746)
Does anyone else jump their dog regularly at full height?



On those odd occasions I work Bacchus it's at a much lower height than regulation 24. He's 27.5 at the withers and 90#. I also am preferring running contacts now. The times he drops a bar it's because I've put him into a jump at a weird angle. Most of the time he makes it but there are times he drops the bar. Not his fault.....mine.

mangujowa 03-13-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenny (Post 1062861)
Wow he's light! It is the front end I worry about. Shoulders especially. We do put him up to full height before trials. V will drop bars below 20 because he doesn't put in the effort to get over them. I'd like v to loose maybe a pound or 2 but below 80 I think he'd look anerexic.

I hope you have many many more years with him.

Thanks. Niz is the two dimensional doberman, He's really, really got no chest at all and his front legs are practically side by side. May not be pretty, but I'm hoping its aerodynamic! :roflmao:

lestat1978 03-14-2012 03:02 PM

Week number 2 went well for Ivan. Definite improvement on the Buja Board. Tunnel was once again a breeze. We did a very low A-Frame. Ivan was a little nervous at first, then was completely comfortable with it. We did a striding exercise with a small jump. We also did an exercise where the weave poles were as far apart as they would go and the dog just had to run down through the middle of them. Ivan was fine with this. We also did a circling exercise. By the end of class Ivan was supposed to work on his Weave Pole entry, but he was COMPLETELY distracted by the dogs showing up for the next class. A tug toy and treats were no longer of any interest to him, so we called it quits for night since it was the end of class anyhow. Last night the only other dogs there four our class were a Labradoodle and an English Setter. Both are sooo mellow compared to Ivan. Although I love his enthusiam, sometimes a calm dog would be nice too. LOL!

Herb2relax 03-14-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mangujowa (Post 1062630)
Taking it slow with a really good foundations course really helps.

Uuuuuugh, which silly boy has never knocked a 24 or 26" jump, but has a 20% chance of knocking a 22", and 50% chance of knocking anything 20" and below? Niz is the only dog that is jumping 24" in the class at the moment (there are other dogs that will be jumping 24" as their full height) and so everyone has to get out and change the jump heights just for us. :X

Second week of learning weaves (still at 12" apart channel weaves) and the instructor teaches all 12 at once/in a row... Niz is better at my crappy stick in the ground green fence posts than the actual weave set, but I really don't want to have to spend that much money on a set of real poles (we have to have 12 at home).

You can make them fairly cheap using PVC. You can use stakes and just put them in the ground or I made a base for mine.

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Originally Posted by mangujowa (Post 1062746)
Unfortunately, I can't jump him less than 24 because he'll just knock bars left and right. Niz is 27.25 and 65lbs with OFA good hips (vet thought borderline good/excellent) and on joint supplements, so I'm hoping he'll come out okay. I'm honestly more worried about his heart throwing in the towel before his joints. Does anyone else jump their dog regularly at full height?

I jump Kyrah at 20" or lower. I am going to jump her at 20" preferred in anything we enter. She is a heavy girl and I am trying now to drop some weight. We are in our first trial in April.

Herb2relax 03-14-2012 11:21 PM

We attended our second class since our long break. Since going back she has been awesome! It is great! Maybe we needed a break. We also insisted that we change instructors or I wouldnt be going back.

Last week she weaved 12 poles for me about 4 times. I was avoiding the dog walk and doing weaves instead on the course. The instructor even told me dont weave her again you dont want to ruin that.

As some of you know I was doing only jumpers with weaves and avoiding the dog walk and teeter. So this week the first time I pulled her to a tunnel instead of the dog walk. The second run she decided all on her own she was going to do the dog walk. I just went with it. The instructor told me she did great! I was stating how slow she was going and she said that was fine. I wouldnt win excellent but so what. I told her I thought she was suppose to go faster b/c the last instructor couldnt leave that alone. Then on the rest of the run she did the full height teeter.

So I guess she is telling me "Mom, I am not a baby! Stop treating me like one!" LOL So slowly we will do the standard courses. I am going to do my best to keep her slow on her entries to those two obstacles.

VZ-Doberman 03-15-2012 08:33 AM

Some concentrate on speed. Some on accuracy.

Personal opinion here.....I would concentrate on the accuracy and the speed will come later when she has her confidence running the course. JMO


Almost forgot. HAVE FUN!!!!!!!


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