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Vermont Protection Seminar - 7/20/19 & 7/21/19

Earlier this month Creed and I did our first protection in about three years, cause partially by a sudden move I had to make from Maryland to Connecticut due to a falling out with a roommate (long story short- she hit Creed in the face, on purpose, in front of me; we fought about it; I left and live where I've been aching to for several years now) and also partially due to some injuries the both of us had last year when we were actually supposed to be back at it.

We also got to see grandma Traci and mama Doozie, most of his uncles, his brother, and his nephew as well as some old friends from outside of the breed. I even got to finally meet a couple folks from DT in person and squish their dogs!






From the first day, photos by Creed's breeder.







And the second day, photos also by Creed's breeder.

Despite the long gap, he more or less picked up where we'd left off, and I got some really good advice going forward with him. He got the beginning stages of his long bite, bark and hold, and blinds... and now it's up to me to keep going with him. I was really happy with what I saw from him that weekend and I'm excited about our future together. We've (re)started sendouts and retrieves on our own as well, so hopefully we'll get our BH at some point this year and then from then we can start worrying about the B and C of our 1 maybe (I cannot track- Creed can, my health disagrees with me doing it).
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Great pictures Jazi!
I was wondering why you left Maryland - hope all is well!

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Photos by my roommate, who came with me and listened in to see if he wanted to maybe do this with his own dog.


And a cute little candid caught by Creed's breeder, in-between sessions. This is my everyday with this guy. He smushes his big dumb nose into my face, rubs his forehead against my cheek, and then covers me in kisses. Sometimes if he's too excited he headbutts me while doing it. Good thing I love him!

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Wow ! Cool pics

Brave man with the pads on !
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awesome photos, happy that you found a new better place to live and found a group of people to work Creed
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Creed looks awesome, and I adore that photo of the two of you! So glad things are looking up, and he clearly took right back up with the sport. Good to see you back here on DT...hope you'll stick around. I just love Creed.


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While you're posting pics, I welcome the snake ones too.

It's poor comfort--but at least you saw the roommate hit Creed...it would have been worse if you had never found out that was going on.

Glad to hear you're getting back on your feet and into the swing of things. Stick around
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Amazing pics and I have to say, "Dang, he got muscles!"

I had a roommate like that but I had a camera in my house, that she knew about, and saw her hitting my male dog after he defended himself after one of her dogs (ankle bitter) went after him for just walking towards the dog door. Luckily, since it is MY house (I bought it and my name was on the deed), I kicked her out. Its a good thing you found out that your roommate had hit your dog. As melbrod said, it could have been much worse.
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Fabulous! Great photos. It's amazing how quickly he got back into it

It sounds like a move that was made to happen. BTW. I agree. No one...EVER... lays a hand on my dogs.

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Loved your photos! Thank you for sharing. I've looked at the several times over. Good reason to move on, but sad to think Creed was hit. I'm with John, no one hits my dog.
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My dad once , and only once banged Miss Ali on the nose , I told him right there , you hit her again , no need for you to stop by here , you know what ? He didn’t stop by anymore ! All Ali wanted was him to pet her , boy was I pizzed off about that deal . .
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It was so great finally meeting you in person and getting to meet Creed! He really did awesome and I hope you two will find the way to keep working him (with the right people).

I'm also just gonna casually drop in this photo as proof we actually did meet (and of course Nadia is derpin)
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WOW! That is soooo cool.

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Thank you all I will try to respond to each:

@Fitzmar Dobermans: PM'd you, but good to see you still kicking around on here. I know we talk mostly on facebook nowadays but I still have some mutual friends with that roommate and also our landlady was her grandmother, who knows the situation and I'm still friends with, but didn't want her granddaughter's dirty laundry where other family could see it. So not something I could really discuss on there outside of "suddenly I'm moving".

@ECIN, dobegal, Meadowcat: Thank you for the compliments! I can't guarantee I'll be very active on here- Creed takes up most of my time and life takes up the rest of it But maybe I'll remember to update more often than once every two or three years.

@melbrod, 4x4bike_ped, yuki_cos, ECIN, and Cressrb: yes, outside the context of bite sport... no one hits my dog. The only time I raise a hand to him is if I'm smacking a mosquito or fly trying to chow down! I would have maybe understood if he had bitten her or attacked her, but his sin was that he'd bumped into her leg while playing with her (much smaller) dog (who also bumped her leg, but didn't get hit). As for me witnessing it... Creed goes literally everywhere with me, so unless he's sick, he's not in the house if I'm not also there.

The few times he was sick or injured and couldn't go with me she did report that he did nothing but scream in his crate the entire time I was out, which always sounded weird to me because before I'd moved in with her he was silent while crated at my parents' house, and he's always quiet in his crate while I'm home or if I crate him at work, and my current roommates say he's quiet unless he needs to use the restroom and even then it's whining and not barking... so my thoughts are either she was tormenting him in there (which is almost worse because he would have been SICK OR INJURED to have been left home without me!), or she was lying to me. He did howl at this event while crated and waiting his turn but to be fair he was crated in a barn with other barking crated dogs, so he had reason to protest. Who knows.

In any case, once she hit him and the fight happened, the friendship was over and I found somewhere else to live because I did not want her interacting with him at all if she was going to be so unapologetic about putting hands on my dog. It's not that it damaged him in any way, tbh he didn't seem to care more than just being startled that she'd hit him (there's probably a case there for GOOD SOLID TEMPERAMENT considering everything), it's the principal of the thing. Never in a million years would I dream of hitting someone else's dog unless that dog was actively attacking me/my dog and I couldn't get it off any other way. And certainly not because I was annoyed that the dogs ran into me while playing underfoot.

And... how dumb can you be to swing at a dog that you KNOW has had some training to protect? She's lucky Creed is steady enough to not react to that and she isn't missing a hand. I know of plenty dogs that would have "hit" right back.

@Artemis: LOVED meeting you and your girl. Here's to more adventures in Vermont and elsewhere!!! I was thinking about dropping one of those photos but didn't know if you wanted a photo of yourself posted or not. Nadia did great and I'm glad to have been able to watch her grow that weekend. You girls rock!!

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" She's lucky Creed is steady enough to not react to that and she isn't missing a hand"

Yup...Most people have no idea. My sweet 5 yo boy, in an SSA moment, tried to kill his best friend and life long "brother" (7 yo.) When I (stupidly) tried to intervene, he basically took my right thumb about 75% off. He also trashed and broke my wrist and mutilated my forearm. The whole thing happened in a matter of seconds. Literally.

I did not blame him, I should have known better. He had no idea that he was biting me. He was in total fighting frenzy mode, as was his bro.

Now I do know better. I would never happen again.

Edit to say: That was in 1982. What a lesson that was.

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