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Nose Work

Rosie post up a On-Line Nose work place - Fenzidogsport - I believe was the one - Anyway I have been reading on there site - there will be another class start Feb 1 -

Now my question - Has anybody on here used there services or others , and how would you rate it -

After reading and seeing Meadowcats Dob at work - this really has me interest ! Personally - I think This is right up Mr. Business ally .

Any other thoughts on how to start this deal -- Off on the right foot - Jump in and help this ole farm boy out .

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I've trained with FDSA exclusively for nosework, mainly because I'm not going to drive four hours round trip for an in-person class.

There are several ways to each nosework. The method used at FDSA has dogs on odor from the very first lesson. The method taught by NACSW trained instructors start with hunting for food, then pairing the odor with food, and eventually eliminating the food.
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I have also used Fenzi nose work classes exclusively ( at Bronze) and I love them. Easy to follow and you go at your own pace. My girl caught very quickly and get excited every time.
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Thanks Rosie - I'm very excited about doing this - And think that Mr.B will be too ! Glad to hear your results ! Hope this all go's well - as would like to do this someday at a ?? Trial with Meadowcat

CR -- Thanks !!!!!!!!!! I was wonder which class I needed - I had been eyeing the Bronze -

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BTW - CR how's the weather in Costa Rica ? Sunny - 80 ??? lol Well --- Maybe I don't want to know - lol


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I can't compare trainers since I have only had experience with one, but I audited a working seminar with Andrew Ramsey and I can't say enough great things about the experience. His methods were positive, straight forward, and focused on building drive. It was not geared towards nacsw or akc trials but just on you, your dog, and getting his nose as close as possible to the odor source. One thing that really impressed me about Andrew was that many of the dogs at the seminar were advance level before coming in but the green and novice dogs quickly surpassed them. Several of the advanced dogs had learned unwanted behaviors before the class when their handlers or trainers had marked and rewarded when they shouldn't have and it was tough for them to get past this.

If you're a visual person like me then there's no substitute for seeing it in person and being able to ask questions and get feedback immediately. It was very easy for me to train both of mine after the seminar. They picked it up FAST. The training lab was key to how quick it all went. I know a lot of people don't care for the extra work it takes to set up a lab but it makes it pretty fool proof.

I will also say that training an alert was key to our success. In our case it is a freeze and putting their nose on or as close to the odor source as possible. This seems to be controversial with a lot of people but I DO NOT want my dogs digging, scratching, chewing, bumping, or laying down on anything because we train many different places and they need to avoid damaging property. My dogs still know it's okay to climb and alert on hides above 4 or 5 feet high; however.
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If you want to try FDSA in the February session, take NW101S: Introduction to Nosework https://fenzidogsportsacademy.com/in.../courses/13342 Make sure you check out the supplies page, and get your kit as soon as possible, so that you won't lose time waiting for it. The next intro class will be in the April session. https://fenzidogsportsacademy.com/in.../courses/14305

Also, after you sign up for class, you can join the FDSA Facebook groups. There is a general group, a nosework and tracking group, and a student group just for people who are taking/have taken NW101. All the groups are super positive and very encouraging.
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WOW Greenie - You covered many of my concerns in your post ! I'm a visual type also - After taking Mr. B to his first training class's - she was able to immediately correct -- ME - as to what I was doing or not doing right - This is what I have a concern about on line training -

Bad habit's -- Bing go ! I can see that happening -- I just love this type of work for Kadin and me ! I want him and I to secede in this = losing - failing is not a option

Now - I'm more confused in how to get this party started

Wonder if Meadowcat would drive down here to Indiana and put on some classes ?? lol

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If you want one-on-one feedback, it looks like there are still some Gold level spots left in the FDSA class. You would have your own homework thread in the forums, and post videos of your training, and the instructor will tell you what they are seeing, and give suggestions specific to your situation.
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I would have really loved an in-person class but here in CR, out in the boonies no less, there is nothing on offer. So for me the Fenzi class worked well. There are also no trials here but we do it for fun and mental exercise for my girl.
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Don't stress too much - I think you can try and Fenzi class and see if it's a good fit for you...lots of people really like them!
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Hoss loves hide and seek...... I thought this nosework would be a great way to exhaust Hoss and interested in this online class also......hummmmmmmmmmmmmm...maybe we need to make a group within this group and have a beginner nosework thread.

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Hoss loves hide and seek...... I thought this nosework would be a great way to exhaust Hoss and interested in this online class also......hummmmmmmmmmmmmm...maybe we need to make a group within this group and have a beginner nosework thread.
There is a thread dedicated to just nosework, and anyone can hop on if they want. https://www.dobermantalk.com/obedienc...k-journal.html

Actually, there are several stickied threads in the Obedience, Agility, and Working Sports sub-section, each devoted to a different sport, like tracking, obedience, rally, etc. Some of them have been posted on for a while, but they are sill worth a read through, if that sport sounds interesting.
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