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post #26 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-18-2018, 05:41 PM
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Really interesting to read what you've written and I'd be inclined to agree with pretty much everything you've said. In particular
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I want the dog to feel he's competing with the helper.
This is what inherently attracted me to Ringsports, everything I've read and been told about it is that at its base, Ring is supposed to be a confrontation between dog and decoy. Especially when you get to RingIII with object guarding where the handler isn't even present to guide the dog.
And from that, that's mostly how our club owner trained dogs. He never gave me a concrete example of a dog brought up exclusively on a defensive drive but the implication was very much that at this point it is no longer enjoyable for the dog (I believe a dog can be serious in their task and still enjoy it).
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And yes that is what I meant by forward defence drive - "agression" but the way my trainer described it was more like... the dog being so 'scared' that it feels it has no choice but to attack the decoy even if that decoy is down at the other end of the field. That the dog feels it has no other choice but to deal with this threat immediately.
I seriously doubt dogs think this way, Movement of the helper at a distance is going to bring on prey drive.
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I seriously doubt dogs think this way, Movement of the helper at a distance is going to bring on prey drive.
I don't know to what extent it's true or not, but I have seen leash-reactive dogs react to the sight of another dog two blocks away on the other side of the street, and lunge so who knows. But to me a dog that is that scared/frightened is not a mentally balanced or stable animal by any stretch. (I also realize it's different on a leash since the dog may feel trapped)
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