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when everything goes wrong (agility video)

surely everyone who is training agility know the feeling
when you are too slow, the dog is too fast, you move the wrong place, or show the wrong direction.

our last Sunday's workout video when I felt all those things..
coach certainly got the gray hair. I was so miserable.
training time 2x10min and in that all show about 5-6min
video title could be again, and once more again.
Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D48W6PqBbTg&edit=vd
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Your boy is very in tune to everything you do whether it's a verbal or physical. He wants to do what you're telling him. I love the video. It shows a team that is evolving. By the end of the video he's more and more into the exercise.

Glad you posted the link.
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At the end of pacing is maybe 5% dropped ears and hearing improvement of 95% Helps to control strangely. Fortunately, the desire to make is always 100%
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Aw I also enjoyed this, thanks for posting. Lovely to see your keen, handsome, all-natural dobe doing work he's excited about. He's quite the little weave-master!
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Thanks for your comment,
In Finland, we have a bit of that practice agility Dobermann, tests might be less than 20 a dog, trainings, fortunately more.

if you want to see the increases that rate chap.
so I have to look for old videos. I do not remember by having a camera with me
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What a lovely team you are! Such an enthusiastic partner makes for a joyful video. Thanks!

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I really enjoyed your video! I actually think it is neat to see things not always going perfectly because its fun to watch person and dog really continue working and striving to improve. You guys looked great!


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I found our first video of agility
The subject is a waltz (hmm what is the name you have?) and a couple of new barrier ring and bag. A contact.
"little" boy is 10 months in these trainings
a little boring when you repeat the same thing many times, if that's a surprise when you still do not know how to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSFKJkbdcwc
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He is one happy happy boy! He is having a blast. He's very willing.......and he loves his Mommy.
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Yesterday evening I told a friend about this group, and she said that his dobe video can be published for you to see.
my dog cousin of Fair Years Younger Reino. we practice in the same club and from the same group.

the same training and the same feelings than on first video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccua9xu3tuE&edit=vd
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I love the OMD handling and I love that you are not letting the learning process upset you. I assume you reward with a toy or treat not on the video - if not, I would be rewarding more for this eager and happy progress.

He learns and loves it - keep it happy so that when he learns it all he will trust you and be happy. Trust is easy to lose and hard to get back. I have lost trust too many times by correcting my dogs more than once, e.g. if they fail weaves at a trial now I will try once only to re-do them to make them know that was not the right way to do them at a trial (otherwise they can learn that it doesn't matter at a trial). But I do not keep going until they get it right or I have done it the maximum number of allowed times.

I have found that doing smaller sequences of the troublesome area rather than as part of a longer course builds more trust. But I am sure your instructor is doing a good job - very hard to know the plan from a short video .

I love the team you and your dog make. Keep up the good work.

Here is a video of my girl over a year ago when she was 2 years old and just staring 24" height: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRk_ZuNUw9c I would handle this much differently now with my changed handling techniques. Trying to use OMD for tighter turns and clearer direction.


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now needs to ask what is the OMD? code which does not tell me anything ..
yes correct performance may be motivating toy or food, depends on whether the new thing that you have to learn in peace, or the old familiar thing in the toy to raise undertones.
but also making itself acts as salary. barriers, pipes, woven is the best in the world immediately after the toy .. I am able to pay obedience tube, or weave.

Lana's weave I could run myself in a different way, a shorter and more frequent steps, have you tried how to work? video shows mainly walked upon. and toy or food forward to the ground.
weave after the second jump Lana was going to streak, I would have been cries too late reversal, when the barrier effort has not yet taken place to keep a dog to know the direction.
running rhythm going through a lot, do you talk about?
actually the second tube should I apply for a closer look that will not stop running third pipe.
out of the tube when you are already into the work of the first mouth now, you were in between.
can not get mad at me, I always give them my self the problem: that weave after the jumps I had found dobe pipe ..

here I am with my miniature schnauzer weave various competitions and the step is completely different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGElGzvGI3E
What dobe alley taught to weave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYbQFhEdixs
here is another video where the words involved, to me difficult things dobe would do when in time would tell.
stay and the pay is when you get to do the job. even the coach did not harm the wait for permission to do. to know that the toy will at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVkO1OVSW8o
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now needs to ask what is the OMD? code which does not tell me anything ..
In the US, OMD = One Mind Dogs - run by the Finnish handlers: Janita Leinonen, Jaakko Suoknuuti , Mikko Aaltonen and Mari Kaplas. You probably use a much different Finnish (Suomi?) name for their business.

This is a much different handling system than we have had for a long time here. We like it and we need to retrain ourselves (the handlers) to do it instead of our automatic methods which cause wide turns and do not always work the dog's line. We have used a lot of trained cues instead of more body language - we have used a lot of high held arms instead of low arms and low body position for collection and higher cues for send. Other rules have been to always use the closest arm and we are now trending to using the off-arm for better control in discriminations and bringing the dog in.

Other differences are that different venues (types of agility competition) tend to need different types of handling - especially NADAC. Only our UKI venue uses courses of a more European type. AKC and USDAA are trying by adding ISC courses (AKC) and Masters Challenge courses (USDAA) but this is recent and not the style of the basic titling classes.

And yes I hear what you said about Lana and me - I do better now but still have to think harder - it is not yet natural to do some of the things you mentioned.

I understand about the weaves and have instead made them more independent but, when needed, I do take smaller steps to show more movement to encourage her. I know I was out of position - just wanted to share with you that we all show videos when we are not at our best - this is how we learn from each other. I was happy with her for 2 yrs old, but we are doing better 1 1/2 years later .

Also, we have jumps without wings and until recently, they were often dangerous metal standards with 3ft bars. We could not teach our big dogs to turn across the bar when jumping - many have been sliced on their ribs by contact with the bar holders (metal). We still have a lot of jumps without wings and they still have short bars but now have independent standards so they will fall better when in contact with the dog and not as dangerous. We are so far behind the European standards for safety for the dogs. We have had to teach dogs to take direct jumps and not slice or turn as much as they could.

I will look at your videos - don't have time right now, but wanted to reply to you since you were so kind as to reply to me so fast. Much appreciated.



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oh yeah I know OMD but I just thought of Finnish as a code like this
In Finland, we anticipate a very basic agility training and this is going a step further .. that is, I do not consider myself OMD user ..
but after all, it is a part of it when I try to tell as early as possible wherever you go ..
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TEN months?/ Wow... his focus and determination is amazing.. the fun he is having is apparent and how the boy loves those weaves..!!!! GREAT job..he's like a blurr going through and you can see how much he's enjoying the process of learning. Thanks so much for posting this.
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What a great dog. Wonderful team.
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more old videos. the boy almost 1 year. I do not know where the end of the exercise here is, these was a machine in a safe place .. searching for the right side of a very strong, the hand had to be hidden away and still looking for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=tRlMOYYUwNQ

and a second video which is a strange place unofficial race.
he is very confused. we had fun, at least the public ..
too raw to take part in a strange place, became more experimenting ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK8XQbZ2rxI

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I wondered for half a day which is a blurr, apparently mean flow?
he had a second dog involved from the rehearsals nine weeks the tube through the wings of the expenditure and the rotation was taught back then, and sitting on the output. puppy group started 6 months old.
Agility was just a lot of fun together and can be seen in the way he wants to do some work. every time Skooby doo race. wrinkle the forehead training is obedience bite and tracking work.

English some words are very difficult to come up with, for example, to weave: is the Finnish knit and direct Finnish is sticks or slalom minute got even more to think about what the other person wants to say. beyond: dog glossary ..
I think that my writing is funny of you. talk and listen is better than writing.
nice at you still can read it and even understand what I mean

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