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I have been training my boy in agility for just about a year now, once a week - never miss a class. Of course he is a natural because of his drive, enthusiasm, and speed.
Problem: He is starting to just zoom around the ring before we start! Comes back to work (eventually) but what is going on??? I feel completely helpless like he is blowing me off - (cause he is)
He will be 2 years old in April...any suggestions about focus exercises or anything? I would like to say it is because the weather here is below zero, so not alot of outside time...but he was doing this when he was getting regular walks too.
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personally... he's being a baby... at 2, he's still a baby boy, some attention issues are to be expected

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I do not have any prior experience with agility as I am only 15 years of age.. but this is what I think: your dog is in a class? so why not ask your trainer when you see him/her again? I'm sure he/she has had a focus problem with dogs before, so should know how to handle it.. hope this helped
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I have been training my boy in agility for just about a year now, once a week - never miss a class. Of course he is a natural because of his drive, enthusiasm, and speed.
Problem: He is starting to just zoom around the ring before we start! Comes back to work (eventually) but what is going on??? I feel completely helpless like he is blowing me off - (cause he is)
He will be 2 years old in April...any suggestions about focus exercises or anything? I would like to say it is because the weather here is below zero, so not alot of outside time...but he was doing this when he was getting regular walks too.
Thanks in advance!
Hogan can be this way still, at 2-1/2. My trainer calls him a "5 minute dog"... takes about 5 minutes from the time we arrive for him to settle in and get down to business. When he was younger, he was a 20 minute dog ;-)

Now, if he doesn't settle down fairly quickly, I take him out of the ring and he doesn't get to "play". That usually gets him focused pretty quickly.


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Yes, I would ask your trainer of the class. I do not compete in agility, and have heavy obedience background so I would do something wrong, lol. But, good luck in your endeavors!
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I'd suggest spending some of that energy before he gets into the ring. If it were me, I'd run a few laps around the parking lot with him or seeing if they've got a warm up ring to get that energy out before his actual class/event.
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It's hard to say what is going on without seeing him, without knowing anything about your training, how much foundation work was done, etc. Is he just zooming or taking obstacles too, is he barking at the time, etc? Are you working on a lot of courses or things that are mentally difficult for him? How does he behave when he enters the building? What do you do prior to taking him out on the floor to work him?
I would bring him in and put him in a crate, then prior to your turn, get him out and play with him. All of your focus should be on him. I am not saying this is true of you, but many people, come into their training building, socialize, ignore their dog until it is their turn to work. Then they expect the dog to be fully focused on them and the work. I tell my students they can't expect full attention from their dog unless they are giving their dog full attention.
Clean Run has a special issue called "Motivation, Drive and Self-Control" But in order to choose the correct exercises, you need to determine why he is zooming.
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we have only done 2 classes in agility.. loving it by the way.. there is a dog there that does the zoomies every week.. they just work on recall while this is happening.. on our second lesson missy thought ohh thats a good idea and did a lap herself LOL .. my trainer sujested getting there early if i wanted to let her have a good run round the paddock while they are setting up !! im taking zeus on saturday and OMG im deffinatly taking her up on that offer or he will spend the whole lesson running around like a loon LOL..

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It's hard to say what is going on without seeing him, without knowing anything about your training, how much foundation work was done, etc. Is he just zooming or taking obstacles too, is he barking at the time, etc? Are you working on a lot of courses or things that are mentally difficult for him? How does he behave when he enters the building? What do you do prior to taking him out on the floor to work him?
I would bring him in and put him in a crate, then prior to your turn, get him out and play with him. All of your focus should be on him. I am not saying this is true of you, but many people, come into their training building, socialize, ignore their dog until it is their turn to work. Then they expect the dog to be fully focused on them and the work. I tell my students they can't expect full attention from their dog unless they are giving their dog full attention.
Clean Run has a special issue called "Motivation, Drive and Self-Control" But in order to choose the correct exercises, you need to determine why he is zooming.
He IS running and doing some of the jumps and tunnels while zooming...as if he can't wait for me! No barking, no sniffing the floor; just get out and go! I may be guilty of "visiting" with folks when I get there...I try to keep him focused on me, but he is so interested in "visiting" with the other dogs as well. Now that you mention it, it actually didn't become a problem until this past session (November) when the class size increased. We have alot more folks involved (Yea!)
I am not familiar with Clean Run and would love some insight into the focus excersizes.
Thanks for your input!

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With the two dobermans I have titled in agility, I would take the "edge" off of them before going into the ring. They loved agility, but could get so cranked they just flew everywhere. I would take them out of their crate about an hour before the run and do 15-20 minutes of fetch and tug, then a short cooldown walk. Before we went in the ring, I would take them out and stretch them (stretched front and back legs) and then do the practice jump until we had to get in line.



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Tamora is my first agility dog and we have some titles.
Before starting agility we did and still do obedience.
We started with a good agility foundation class (all positive) when she was around 1 1/2 years old. Started competing around 9 months later a little. Her motivation in the ring is doing the obstacles. She doesn`t care if she gets food or toys as a reward. (treats, however, were used in learning the obstacles)
Staying with me in the ring has never been an issue. I think this goes back to her ob foundation. She goes where I go. The thing I`m not sure about is the fact that she is a bitch. I`m curious if anyone here runs a dog and wondering if this is more of an issue with them just because they are a male or perhaps a maturity issue.
Another thought I had was--after he does come back from his zoomies, do you than go and do some obstacles. It may be that he has gotten his reward (If I do the zoomies I than can do the obstacles) Perhaps when he does the zoomies and he eventually comes back, why not put him in the car or crate and let him wait before he gets to do the obstacles.
He may learn you will not play until he pays attention to you. Just a thought.
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I will suggest to concentrate on yourself . What energy are you passing to your dog ? If you are anticipating a negative responce your probable gonna get it. A good handler becomes a very good handler when his or her mental preparation improves. Check yourself prior to arriving. Our young trainer (15 yr.years old I think from So. Africa ), nailed it. Ask your trainer for their opinion they are present and observing live. best of luck & train em up.
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