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I'm stealing brw1982 idea of a journal. I've noticed an increase of enthusiastic sniffers on this forum, so I think a journal where we can share our progress, accomplishments, and training techniques would be fun and very helpful.

Please feel free post as many times as you want, ask any question regarding the sport of Nose Work (which can include tracking, NACSW, and the Canadian version SDDA).

So, how is everyone doing today?
 
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Great idea!

I'm so happy that I got Brandy into nose work. I actually started a "real" journal and it's already been fun to go back and re-read the entries from our first few classes. Brandy was such a mess at first, she was so nervous she peed on the floor. I was scared that I made a mistake and that maybe we shouldn't even go on. Thankfully my instructors and everyone here talked me through and we just passed our first ORT this weekend. You can teach an old dog new tricks! It's been so much fun watching her grow and gain confidence! Can't wait to continue our training and see what the future holds!
 
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I'm so glad to hear Brandy enjoying the sport, it's very addictive!

Chase and I started out self teaching. For a year we would just use food and find that, I had no clue you could use essential oil as the target scent.

I then decided to find a class in Toronto. Do you know how hard that was? For another year I spent looking for someone who taught Scent Detection. This year I stumbled upon Doggone Right, who uses nothing put positive reinforcement and had a 6week course lined up.

We used the method of pairing a scent to food. It took Chase two weeks to finally 'commit to the scent'. After the 6 weeks I wanted to do scent detection competitively, so I reached out to the SDDA community.

From then on I have been watching their posts and opinions on training and handling. One suggested the cocktail method, where we put all three scents in one container. We then just walk our dog into the room and wait for them to investigate the container, we reward and praise any interest in the container. The founder of SDDA explained that dogs are very smart when it comes to their nose, and they can smell each scent in that container. By allowing them to stumble upon the container and shower them in praise and treats, can build a strong commit to scent, where a dog wants to find the scent because that is a trigger for good things.

I decided to try the cocktail method. It's like magic. It took Chase less than a week to commit to all three scents, and he can now identify each one in a DOT (ORT).

It been a great journey that I hope to continue with him :)
 
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Yes, NACSW uses Birch, Clove, and Anise. SDDA uses Wintergreen, Pine, and Thyme.

The methods, and techniques used can be interchangeable since it's only the scents that are different.

There are some handlers who compete in both venues, and successfully trained their dogs on all 6 scents.
 
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Great idea!

I've been taking Maiya to NW classes for 3 years. She just titled in NW2 recently. Gio's NW training has been more spotty because we were concentrating on conformation training. He just passed his birch ORT on Sunday.

The day before Maiya and I trialed, I volunteered at the other NW2 trial (videotaped one of the search elements all day) and last year I was the timer for the exterior search at a trial. Watching other teams work at trials was a valuable learning experience.

Looking forward to reading other people's experiences with this sport.
 
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berlin's passed all her ORTs for NACSW - she was entered in NW1 earlier this year but I had to pull her from 2 trials we got into, and one trial we were waitlisted, because of her knee surgery.
She's 14 weeks post-op and we are FINALLY entered for our NW1 on Sunday 12/1!!!!

I'm nervous- we're also missing classes because I'm going to wisconsin and showing the other dogs in obedience, but I am taking berlin and going to do searches when i can! im most nervous about her exterior - berlin doesn't like people popping out and if she can see people or god forbid a dog in the distance, she can go into full alert mode. it will all depend on the situation.

i just got an email about a nosework camp next year - id be into it but im not sure berlin would appreciate it - dogs need to wait quietly in a car when not working (HA) and be ok with large crowds watching them.
 
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Can you guys point me to any good online resources for nosework? The closest class to me is over an hour away with mild traffic (and there is NEVER mild traffic). I think this could be fun for Perrin, especially.
 
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Denise Fenzi's online academy is offering an intro to Nosework class this session.

She offers 3 levels of enrollment in her courses: 1) gold where you take videos and get feedback from instructor, 2) silver where you don't do video but can ask questions and 3) bronze where it's like you are auditing - no videos and no questions.

The enrollment window opens this Friday at 9am PST and classes start Dec 1. Her gold and sometimes even silver spots fill up super fast (like sometimes in an hour!) so if you are interested be prepared to sit in front of a computer and enroll right at 9am PST this Friday! :)

There are higher levels of Nosework they offer too, it sounds like this is the beginning class for newbies.

I thought about entering Lucy in this but we have too much on our plate. I'm enjoying hearing about everyone else doing their nose work though!

Fenzi Dog Sports Academy - NW101: Introduction to Nosework Games
 
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I have a question for those of you that have some experience. What are y'all using as an indication? For tracking, I've trained a down for articles. Would that be acceptable in nosework also, or do they need to paw at it or otherwise touch it?
 
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In SDDA they say to allow your dog to indicate in their own way. Pawing, biting, or physically moving the hide can DQ you. Chase has this VERY obvious indicator, all it is is him whipping his head around to look at me. If I pause, he goes back to the hide, points with his nose, and play bows or sit.

As long as the indication is clear as day to the judge, it can be anything.
 
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in nosework your dog can have elevated hides - in that instance, a down can be a detriment for some dogs since it can take them from the source of the odor (in some ways, very far, especially if its an inaccessible hide) so for me i like the dogs nose to be where the odor is :) but again, i haven't trained an indication for this - i am letting her tell me. 1.5 years in, she nose touches, head turns, and occassionally paws.

as long as you can read your dog and know its alerted and you can use that to determine WHERE the odor is, your alert can be anything at all :)
 
#21 ·
I love Nosework! Richter passed his ORT on birch a few weeks ago. Right now we are on a break both because I'm doing too many things (obedience and agility) and because there are no Nosework trials close by yet. I hope to get back into it soon, because Richter really enjoys it.
 
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I've finally found out some more about UKC nosework. They are going to be using a total of five scents. I think that this Leerburg | UKC Nosework Kit is what I will be buying when we get our income tax return. :D
 
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I have a question for people who have trialed for some time.

This is my very first trial, so I've been reading the manual book and asking a bunch of questions about what to expect.

The host/chairwoman of the trials posted a message on the group forum stating that there has been two diagnosed kennel cough cases in the area. She also mentioned that the two dogs are still going to compete.

The executive of SDDA has been contacted and has spoken with the host about the issue, but no further information has been released.

Is it normal to allow contagious dogs to compete in events?

Someone who has been trialing for quite some time said it is normal, and all she does is keep her dogs separated from her household dogs to stop the spread of disease.

I have a feeling the executive of SDDA has requested those dogs to be pulled, as the manual does state that any dog who is sick and cannot perform the trial will be DQd, but i need to wait for the official email.
 
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Bummer about the trial :( I'm surprised they would allow the sick dogs to compete...you would think the risk of losing the competitors that don't want their dogs exposed to the sick ones would be a good enough incentive to not allow them to compete. Guess not!

I have officially signed up for the Denise Fenzi online course and purchased the Leerburg nosework starter kit. I am really excited to get this started!
 
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Congrats to you and Chase!!

The first lecture for the online course I am taking was posted, now I am just waiting to get my odor kit from Leerburg, which should be delivered today! I am so excited to get all of my dogs started!
 
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I am totally impressed with the NW class I just finished on Denise Fenzi's Dog Sports Academy. The class was taught by Margaret Simek, and she did a great job. After 6 weeks, all three of my dogs are nearly ready for their ORT, and if I had done a better job at training consistently, I'm sure they would be ready.

There is currently one ORT scheduled in Texas, and I will be trying to get Guilty into it for all three odors. Possibly all of my dogs, but we will see!

We will be signing up for the second round of classes, too, and I hope they are as good!
 
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There is an opportunity to gain a title in April!!

A trial is being held and I think im going to book him for all three elements again to try and get a special. There will also be DOTS held, so he can also pass his Pine and Thyme :)

We will see how he is feeling. I noticed at our first trial he was not very happy, a lot of new things were going on that just zapped him and he was very flat in his performance. Now I know what to expect in a trial environment, I can work with him and see if we can get him more relaxed.
 
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Yay! Just signed Baron up for a 4 week Level 1a: K9 Nose Work® Basics 1 class starting the first week in March. I have been watching for classes held during the day and they are finally offering them and it is only 20 minutes from home. Was just about ready to buy some books and/or DVD's to work at home (which I might do anyway) when I thought I would check the place again. I am thinking it must be getting more popular in this area as there are more classes being scheduled and also noticed some clinics, etc. scheduled in the future. So excited to do something with my boy again.
 
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Brandy and I start classes again on Saturday! :) We're moving out of the intro classes and are starting to work on skill building! The instructor has that we will be: working perimeters, thresholds, & corners; independent searching; multiple hides; above, below, and under; leash handling; etc. Super excited!!!!!

Happy sniffing everyone! :)
 
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