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They are here, and they are fantastic! Photos for those who wanted them. It's incredibly hard to get good photos of cats, especially kittens! Matilda was zooming all over, and Gus Gus kept trying to crawl in my lap, so....here's what you get!

Matilda is a lavender torti, and Gus Gus is a lavender and white. NOT grey! Just so we're accurate

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Man oh man, are those kit-tens CUTE!

Great pictures MeadowCat!.

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What does the rest of the crew think MC ? Bebe like them ?

Cute little kitties ! Do they hunt mice ?
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Oh, nobody will meet them for a while. Nobody is hissing at the door, so that's good. Fenris was meowing for quite a while when I was in there with them this morning, though, so he may have been a bit jealous of the time I was spending in there.

I hope there are no mice for them to hunt! Matilda was VERY into the toy, though!
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You better get your eyes checked MC - that kitten is Gray Right Aunt Bug ??
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Better not let the breeder hear that, lol. It's genetically impossible for him to be gray!
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Kenny,

You know the old saying "All cats are grey in the dark"!

Rolling on the floor laughing at my own humor--made the loaner Joey bark because he thought it was weird.

I always though the various dog breed that have an array of colors get really inventive about what they call the colors and horses are worse until I was looking up something about a cat color.

I gave up saying "What do you call the color?"

The bottom line is that I'm resigned to lavender, blue, red, apricot, sorrel, chestnut, cream and all the others that I think look like grey etcbut I have a question for MeadowCat here--they call Matilda a torti? She's so stripey I'd have thought she'd be a tabby--but she's only really striped on her legs I think her body coat does look like a torti.

Whatever the coats colors are called they are just rediculously cute.

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They are here, and they are fantastic! Photos for those who wanted them. It's incredibly hard to get good photos of cats, especially kittens! Matilda was zooming all over, and Gus Gus kept trying to crawl in my lap, so....here's what you get!

Matilda is a lavender torti, and Gus Gus is a lavender and white. NOT grey! Just so we're accurate

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Better not let the breeder hear that, lol. It's genetically impossible for him to be gray!

Huh.

I guess she told you Kenny!

I like the Yeller one!
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Dang! I found golf, skiing, ice skating, a cooking show and an unidentifiable something--looked like maybe and English murder mystery.

Sigh--no racing for me--no cable or satillite. (Which I obviously don't know how to spell)

Hey, MeadowCat--what's the genetics on lavender? Is it dilution on something or maybe a double dilution? Us genetic freaks wants to know.

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They are here, and they are fantastic! Photos for those who wanted them. It's incredibly hard to get good photos of cats, especially kittens! Matilda was zooming all over, and Gus Gus kept trying to crawl in my lap, so....here's what you get!

Matilda is a lavender torti, and Gus Gus is a lavender and white. NOT grey! Just so we're accurate

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Great photos - this one has a familiar look - something like, I am here to take over the world....and he and Matilda have
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Great photos - this one has a familiar look - something like, I am here to take over the world....and he and Matilda have
The Kitty in Modm's post is the one that I like - for what ever reason
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Oh wow, MC, they are too cute! Thanks for the pics



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I am not a cat person at all but they are so stinkin' cute!
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Dang! I found golf, skiing, ice skating, a cooking show and an unidentifiable something--looked like maybe and English murder mystery.

Sigh--no racing for me--no cable or satillite. (Which I obviously don't know how to spell)

Hey, MeadowCat--what's the genetics on lavender? Is it dilution on something or maybe a double dilution? Us genetic freaks wants to know.

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I can ask their breeder! I don't know anything about coat colors, so I'll try to find out!

They are getting more bold and sassy. They had a TINY viewing of our adult cats through about a 2 inch crack in the door. Fenris was ecstatic and wanted to meet them. Bebe was surprisingly indifferent. Shockingly, Siouxsie Sioux hissed. I thought she'd be the most laid back about them! But overall, really good reactions from everyone. There's been some paws under the door, too. No one seems at all stressed out, which is EXCELLENT.

Dogs haven't met them, but clearly know they are in the house. Richter couldn't care less. Sypha is jealous when the attention isn't on her, because of course it's ALL ABOUT SYPHA. But she'll be fine.

First vet visit (just to meet the vet and have a once-over) is today!

And, your Tuesday kitten pics!

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Ultimately, it's personality and looks. From our breeder's website, their personality is described as "This adorable combination only hints at the mad-cap personality within – a cross, some say, between a cat, a dog, a monkey, and Dennis the Menace. They are a fun and fun-loving breed with a relaxed and social attitude rarely associated with cats. Delightfully silly in both appearance and antics, Devons are interested in everything and everyone around them. Their playful nature means Devons easily learn tricks and are always up for a game of hide-and-seek, tag, or fetch. This unique breed possesses intensely loyal, human-loving, dog-like qualities. A person must be prepared to be owned by a Devon. A Devon will eat with you, sleep with you, and perch cozily on your shoulder while you are on the computer or reading. They will follow you around the house, sit at your feet, or jump on your lap the minute you sit down."

So, I guess they remind me a bit of Dobermans, LOL! They are social and outgoing, clingy, wanting to be with you. Less aloof than many cats. And, of course, they are utterly adorable - they are supposed to be "elfin" in appearance. We'd look at some other breeds, and I also really liked Siberians, but ultimately decided I couldn't handle that level of grooming, and the personality wasn't exactly what I was looking for (although maybe down the road, who knows).

It was really fun to go to cat shows and actually meet breeds, although some breeds are far more rare than others and harder to find at shows. But the cat shows were really fun, and the owners/handlers (typically the same person) were really open and easy to talk to, and eager to tell you about their breed. Super fun!
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They do sound Dobe-like and they're super cute! I can see why you chose them. I have been enjoying all the pictures. Keep them up!

Side note: I signed up for Maplewood, so we'll see how that goes!
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They do sound Dobe-like and they're super cute! I can see why you chose them. I have been enjoying all the pictures. Keep them up!

Side note: I signed up for Maplewood, so we'll see how that goes!
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Good grief... they come in a huge variety of colors and patterns.... http://cfa.org/Portals/0/documents/b...ards/devon.pdf

These are from the CFA standard:

BLUE: blue, lighter shade preferred, one level tone from nose to
tip of tail. Sound to the roots. A sound darker shade is more
acceptable than an unsound lighter shade. Nose leather and
paw pads: blue.

LAVENDER: frosty-grey with a pinkish tone, sound throughout.
Nose leather and paw pads: lavender-pink.

So there is your visual difference between "grey" and "lavender".

Looks like they can be outcross (American Shorthair or British Shorthair) registered until 2028.

As an interesting aside, from a quick consult the great and powerful Google, it appears that each the curly coated cat breeds, the Cornish Rex, the Devon Rex, the LaPerm, and the Selkirk Rex, has a different gene that affects the coat.


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Good grief... they come in a huge variety of colors and patterns.... http://cfa.org/Portals/0/documents/b...ards/devon.pdf

These are from the CFA standard:

BLUE: blue, lighter shade preferred, one level tone from nose to
tip of tail. Sound to the roots. A sound darker shade is more
acceptable than an unsound lighter shade. Nose leather and
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LAVENDER: frosty-grey with a pinkish tone, sound throughout.
Nose leather and paw pads: lavender-pink.

So there is your visual difference between "grey" and "lavender".

Looks like they can be outcross (American Shorthair or British Shorthair) registered until 2028.

As an interesting aside, from a quick consult the great and powerful Google, it appears that each the curly coated cat breeds, the Cornish Rex, the Devon Rex, the LaPerm, and the Selkirk Rex, has a different gene that affects the coat.
According to her breeder, Matilda is a lavender patched tabby. From the CFA: "PATCHED TABBY PATTERN: a patched tabby (torbie) is an established silver, brown, blue, lavender, fawn, cinnamon or chocolate tabby with patches of red or cream clearly defined on both the body and extremities; a blaze on the face is desirable."

To address outcrossing, yes, they are a breed that CFA allows outcrossing, which I think is awesome. Since the Devon Rex is descended from a single cat that was found as a mutation, genetic diversity is something that is a huge issue in the breed, and the good breeders really want to increase diversity. Diversity is even FURTHER complicated by the fact that their curl is a recessive gene. So CFA allows outcrossing to the two breeds Rosemary mentioned. My breeder actually just had a litter that was an outcross. She had previously bred her male to an American Shorthair and kept one of the offspring, a male. He was straight haired. She used him with another of her Devon females for a litter recently, and got three curly haired babies! These are F2 Devons, and they can be shown, if any turn out show quality. It was great luck they turned out curly...they had a 50% chance.

On the "curly" gene topic, the gene that causes the curl in each of those breeds is different, which I find fascinating!
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Geeze. given half a chance I could be a bone fide cat lady. Those kittens are right up my alley.

Yeah, ask your breeder what the genetics is on lavender--inquiring minds always want to know.

It's cold and raining here (what's new) and I'm going to take a nap.

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Geeze. given half a chance I could be a bone fide cat lady. Those kittens are right up my alley.

Yeah, ask your breeder what the genetics is on lavender--inquiring minds always want to know.

It's cold and raining here (what's new) and I'm going to take a nap.

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