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Geeze Matilda, don't chew Gus's ear off.

These kittens are just so so--kittenish--they crack me up.

Thanks for the up date.

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Lap wrestling?? And no collateral damage...

Do you have their Easter costumes all ready to go yet?
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Lap wrestling?? And no collateral damage...

Do you have their Easter costumes all ready to go yet?
I *might* have ordered them some little sweaters, just to get them used to wearing stuff.

And....eeek! They did meet one of our adult cats tonight! Fenris has been SO chill about them, and really wanting to meet them, we said sure. He got about 5 minutes in "their" room. Went exceedingly well.

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Geeze. given half a chance I could be a bone fide cat lady. Those kittens are right up my alley.

Yeah, ask your breeder what the genetics is on lavender--inquiring minds always want to know.

It's cold and raining here (what's new) and I'm going to take a nap.

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Okay, Bug...talked to the breeder tonight, and if I understand correctly, lavender is produced by two copies of the recessive chocolate gene, and 2 copies of the recessive dilute gene. She recommends this site for understanding color genetics in cats: COLOUR AND PATTERN CHARTS. She warned that it's design is from the 90s, but that it's very, very thorough!
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Beautiful. Thank you for sharing with us.

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Okay, Bug...talked to the breeder tonight, and if I understand correctly, lavender is produced by two copies of the recessive chocolate gene, and 2 copies of the recessive dilute gene. She recommends this site for understanding color genetics in cats: COLOUR AND PATTERN CHARTS. She warned that it's design is from the 90s, but that it's very, very thorough!
Oooooooooo--thanks much--that is a way cool color (or colour if you're British) chart. The best I've seen for a pretty full recap of colors and patterns.

Thank you, thank you, many times thank you and the breeder.

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I *might* have ordered them some little sweaters, just to get them used to wearing stuff.

And....eeek! They did meet one of our adult cats tonight! Fenris has been SO chill about them, and really wanting to meet them, we said sure. He got about 5 minutes in "their" room. Went exceedingly well.

Fenris was really good about having a kitten pop up from the level below him to try to get a better look. That was Matilda? Looked like Gus was mostly going to stay on the floor--not yet ready to meet the BIG DUDE!.

I got a good laugh about it--Fenris was amazingly cool about the whole thing.

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Fenris was really good about having a kitten pop up from the level below him to try to get a better look. That was Matilda? Looked like Gus was mostly going to stay on the floor--not yet ready to meet the BIG DUDE!.

I got a good laugh about it--Fenris was amazingly cool about the whole thingl.

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Actually the other way around - Gus was up there playing with Fen's tail.
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Yeah --- I even knew it was Gus !

SO when do you bring in Bebe ?
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Yeah --- I even knew it was Gus !

SO when do you bring in Bebe ?
So much more slowly...she has seen them through the door and through a baby gate. If they get too close she will hiss. She's not ready yet.
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Real cute cats.....those ears are so darn cute.
Never owned Cats......its interesting to watch them think in your videos.
Thanks for sharing these clips........

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Those are really stinkin cute. Dumb question. Is littermate syndrome not a thing in cats? I know NOTHING about cats lol.
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Those are really stinkin cute. Dumb question. Is littermate syndrome not a thing in cats? I know NOTHING about cats lol.
Not a dumb question at all! It's actually kind of the reverse in cats. Having two kittens together is actually recommended! It's especially recommended when you are adding a kitten to a household with resident adults. Kittens are very active and playful, obviously, and often the resident adults don't appreciate that behavior much. Two kittens will generally play together and not be so bothersome to the adults. Because cats don't go out into the world the way dogs do, for the most part, it's not really an issue to have cats bonded to each other the way we worry about dogs being too bonded.

This is a great article on socialization for cats - we're learning so much more about cat behavior now than we ever used to know. https://iaabc.org/cat/tarzan-syndrom...meI0rP1116ca68
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If they get too close she will hiss. She's not ready yet.

So is that where the saying " Hissy Fit " comes from ?

BTW- Need some video of Bebe hissing
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That's a cool article. I didn't think about Cats socialization compared to what we do with puppies.
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My apologies Gus--I'll look more carefully next time.

That was a good article--thanks for posting the link MeadowCat. Very interesting--I think I've been luck with getting cats when I had other resident cats--I kind of suspected it was because many or second (or even third) additions were feral or semiferal which would generally mean that they had exposure to other cats since most of my additions were at least adolescent when I added them.

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Today's update...do kittens need sweaters? No. Do they look utterly adorable? Unquestionably yes!

I bought some super cute fleece for the kittens. I wanted to get them used to wearing things, especially Gus, so he can wear things when we start visiting the nursing homes. At first, they weren't sure they could walk in them. They looked like drunken sailors! They'd walk backwards, fall over...I couldn't stop laughing. Eventually they figured out they were fine...mostly I only left them on about 15 minutes. But the cute....

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Those ears! and those eyes! They are just beautiful. They must be so much fun to watch while they play
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I like the leopard spots!! So cute.

I remember the first time (and for a few times after that; she never got completely comfortable in one.) we put a harness on Tish (my previous cat), she lay down on her side and wouldn't get up. Trip is more adventurous--he looked doubtful, but managed, and the first time we took him outside in his harness, he headed for the nearest tree--in a fun-loving sort of way.
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All the cats spent about 20 minutes out together last night! It was very successful. We have a gate at the top of our stairs (2 story house), and I had to "double gate" with a second gate behind it, so the kittens couldn't get through it to go downstairs - they are so small the could easily get through the slats of the normal gate. But we put up the double gate, and opened all the upstairs bedroom doors. Everyone was out. There was exploring, only a few hisses. No one wanted to fight. Bebe was quite puzzled by the kittens and their energy, I think Fenris doesn't care at all, and Siouxsie Sioux climbed to the top of the cat tree to watch them and avoid if possible, LOL. Sypha sat behind the gate on the top stair to watch. She got quite a few pieces of kitten kibble as rewards for being calm. Both kittens approached the gate to check her out. Gus was more okay with her than Matilda, but neither was particularly worried. I'm sure it will be a bit different when she's moving around, but overall, a very good start.

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What about Richter ?
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Sounds like it went well! That kind of stuff always stresses me out! I overthink everything!

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What about Richter ?
He didn't care - he was downstairs. He'll meet them when we start working on dog intros. Maybe this weekend. Sypha couldn't stand being left out of what was going on upstairs, so she kept coming up to the top of the stairs to see what was going on up there
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Oh ! Now I get it LOL They were only in the upstairs part = I'm slow at picking up what you were putting down - lol
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