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Ferns? I exaggerated---there are low-water native ferns here...but the typical damp forest with a lush undergrowth of ferns that you see on the west coast, north central and eastern parts of the US isn't terribly common in the populated parts of the state.

Aspen groves are damper and typically have a fern understory, but aspens really only do well at altitudes above about 7,000 feet. So you won't commonly see ferny woods unless you're out hiking in the mountains (as opposed to the foothills)
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AJ--that looks very much like the common fern that grows everywhere in western Washington and Oregon? Or is the one in Lady Di's picture something special on the east coast?

Mel and MeadowCat--really? Ferns don't grow in the wild in either of your areas?

Ferns are practically a noxious weed around me--a neighbor across the street from me had ferns growing in a raised bed nest to his front steps when I moved in here (15 or 16 years ago) and I had no ferns (in fact the preceeding tenant (or owner) had put down weed cloth and 6 to 12 inches of bark on every bed on the property (evidently before that they had a covering of river rock which sort of got removed) Anyway I dug up yards of bark and dumped it in the back corner of the back yard and removed the weed cloth and put down yards and yards of topsoil and planted stuff--iris, daffodils, lilies, hostas and annuals. And a couple of years later I started finding ferns starting to grow (evidently wind blew spores from that neighbors ferns into my yard)--I let them grow in a few places and after a couple of more years learned to yank them out as soon as I found them starting to grow otherwise the spread like weeds and killed the plants I wanted.

My friend who has several acres of land has ferns that constitutes the entire understory of an acre of Douglas fir at the very back of the property--all volunteers that would move into the rest of the property if given a chance.

And I still can't believe that this October is more like November--I got a fall blooming iris type (it's not an iris--more related to a gladiola) that is one of the few fall blooming bulbs which started to bloom in very late September--which is when it usually is in bloom--but it really doesn't like all the rain and cold is isn't normal for here in October so its putting on a pretty poor show.

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There is a huge list of that type of fern all have something fairly unique to their area. I would say out of a 150 species maybe 10 are in cultivation and 2-3 may be popular at one time.
Your area is one of the optimum climates for what is considered hardy type ferns. I would love to borrow your coolness at times!
What one considers a nuisance is prized by the next , I can appreciate that.
I laugh to my self sometimes when getting shipments from Central America when i know this is stuff they just pick out of the jungle , graded and shipped. I would also think the laborers are just chuckling to themselves at how silly we must be paying money for some abundant flora.
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There is a huge list of that type of fern all have something fairly unique to their area. I would say out of a 150 species maybe 10 are in cultivation and 2-3 may be popular at one time.
Your area is one of the optimum climates for what is considered hardy type ferns. I would love to borrow your coolness at times!
What one considers a nuisance is prized by the next , I can appreciate that.
I laugh to my self sometimes when getting shipments from Central America when i know this is stuff they just pick out of the jungle , graded and shipped. I would also think the laborers are just chuckling to themselves at how silly we must be paying money for some abundant flora.
LOL-as I was typing that stuff about the PNW ferns I thought about our very specific climate. Our coolness and our wetness (more so in some areas than others.

When I moved into this house I had a spot-a corner were the back fence stopped and there was a section perpendicular to the long side (with a gate)--that was always damp--nothing wanted to grow there--it was all mostly shaded so I tried a variety of shade things--turned out to be too wet for most of them. But quite by accident I planted a hosta back in the shady wet spot. Lo and behold--that plant thrived and as I found small pots of other varieties I added them and with the exception of one that I had to dig up and rehome (a seersucker leaved sort of light greenish yellow (or yellowish green) which turned out to get so big and have such huge leaves) it outgrew the spot I had planted it in one season--at the end of the next season I dug it up and gave it to a friend who had a similar wet partly shaded spot where she wasn't having any success growing anything. That hosta filled an area abour six feet by six feet and is the star of that corner of her yard.

Ferns have grown in several place amid the hostas all volunteers. I keep them kind of cut back but if I keep the clumps small it makes a nice contrast.

And as far as stuff that gets imported--I also grow impatiens as summer annuals--nice plants--flower abundantly and even the slugs and snails mostly leave them along--they'll grow anywhere as long as there is enough water--what kills them off is cold--I need to go yank up this summers crop--the night temperatures got them. But when I was living in Los Angeles--fairly close to the coast I grew a couple of big beds of impatiens (which survived as perennials--came back every spring) and one of my roommates was a girl from Brazil--her boyfriend were sitting out on the back patio when I came home from work one day--he asked me about the impatiens. "You grow those on purpose?" he said. In Brazil it seems they are virtually weeds--he told me their name in Portugese--and translated it for me--"Mary with no shame..." Because they'll grow anywhere with no invitation.

He would have laughed at me buying a flat of them from Costco every spring and planting them in every bed. Mine are an identifiable variety I. wallerana (aka busy lizzie)--and have been around in many sizes for years but in Brazil, they'd still be weeds.

I think it stopped raining again--maybe I'll go pull the remainder of the summer impatiens.

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Happy Friday everyone...repeat of last week.

Hey Ken enjoy your day!

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Sorry Alan - forgot - Thank you - still lol

Yep Di - A BIG one ! FLA may not be there when you get back there - Maybe need a side trip to IN !
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So there is a storm in Florida ? HUmm........almost to charlotte.....heading south ......

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Too late--I already started a pot of lentil and smoked sausage soup--it's almost done. Will have with garlic sourdough bread...

Clark (the bad) is still sleeping off his sojourn into the wet and wild back yard last night.

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Chicken piccata? What in the world is that ? Chicken ? Oh boy ! Where's the BEEF ?
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What's the latest word about the black puppy bitch?

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LOL! Geeze Denny--at 55 you're just a mere babe in arms--I've got you beat by 25 years.

I think you need to get to someplace on the West coast to find all the places that give Senior discounts at 55--it's a little like being on the dark side around her--lots of Senior discounts kick in at 55 in Portland. (or maybe our populations is just older than dirt?)
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Actually AARP has been trying to get me to join for a few years now.

I don't want their free tote bag. I've got plenty of tote bags. I don't want their magazine. That's just more crap to throw away. And, I don't need their senior citizen discounts at restaurants. I try to cook at home and I also don't go anywhere. Unless there is a court order or something like that.

Call me boring, but I am with Bad Johnny. I like my solitude. It even irks me when people turn around in my driveway because they didn't know this road is a dead end.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

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So there is a storm in Florida ? HUmm........almost to charlotte.....heading south ......
Guess it's time to step on the gas.
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Guess it's time to step on the gas.
I hope Scott threw her in the back -- for trip home - Maybe if she was nice - he will give her a rain coat - lol
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What's the latest word about the black puppy bitch?

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No news so far - I hope it comes soon - Kadin is lost
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Ferns? I exaggerated---there are low-water native ferns here...but the typical damp forest with a lush undergrowth of ferns that you see on the west coast, north central and eastern parts of the US isn't terribly common in the populated parts of the state.

Aspen groves are damper and typically have a fern understory, but aspens really only do well at altitudes above about 7,000 feet. So you won't commonly see ferny woods unless you're out hiking in the mountains (as opposed to the foothills)
Good to know! But, guess I won't be seeing any ferns because high altitudes make me cry for no reason and parking at the back of a parking lot is hike enough for me!

However, when I was in Colorado up in the four corners, I loved the birch and aspen trees. At least, I think I remember being told that was what they were?

Took me 3 days of my vacation to stop weeping, for no apparent reason, because of the altitude sickness.

After that, I couldn't fathom trying to bake in Colorado. Denver is about as elevated as I want to get. Next time I get to Denver I will drop in and surprise Ma!

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Good Evening Peeps!

Same story different Friday.

What am I going to cook this weekend?
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Some larapin possum shanks, Southern-fried muskrat, hog jowls, gizzards smothered in gristle, smoked crawdads, goat tripe, stewed squirrel, ham hocks, and turnip greens..... Oooooheeee! (recommended by Granny Clampett)




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Crappy storm updates.......AJ whats the poop ......Tampa getting alot of that storm....?

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