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$383.17 ain't bad. Could I eek it out? Sure. Don't want to, though. Told you the girl is going to be okay!

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Haha I wish that was it...that's only for that last one I listed. The total bill is going to be about 10 times that at the high end of their estimate.



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Best of luck in Mocha's tests and hope your wait for results isn't very short.


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TN- I sort of thinking like you are - As long as Mocha has had this , I find it hard to believe she has Copper .

When Ali had it - there are lots more reading that are high other than just the one she has .
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I hear you about the good and bad news stuff, TN. At least you're a little further along to figuring out what is going on. And you've eliminated a fair amount of really nasty stuff in her diagnosis.

I *think* that last IDX thing may be a priority biopsy reading with digital results at a reference lab with specialist pathologists, which will give you quicker results—at least I know there is an IDEXX reference lab that does that kind of stuff. Maybe??

Best of luck in Mocha's tests and hope your wait for results isn't very short.
I'm hoping with all these tests, they can either figure it out or at least narrow it down far enough for treatment.

Like the doc said, there's no visible cancer and the liver still looks healthy, so now all we have to do is pinpoint what's irritating her system and get it under control once and for all.
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I think we need to light a fire under some peoples rear ends!

Lannie showed up late. She's excused.

Beau comes and goes.

Bad John. I've got his phone number. I will chew him out later.

Good John doesn't have time for all the nonsense around here.

I've been thinking about the Chicken Thread Family tree.

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What I really want to know is, who is my daddy?



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TN- I sort of thinking like you are - As long as Mocha has had this , I find it hard to believe she has Copper .

When Ali had it - there are lots more reading that are high other than just the one she has .
Yeah all her other levels are in the normal range. Only ALT is slightly elevated. The doc today said that can also be caused by inflammation/irritation in the gastro-intestinal tract...look at me throwing out big medical terms
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I think we need to light a fire under some peoples rear ends!

Lannie showed up late. She's excused.

Beau comes and goes.

Bad John. I've got his phone number. I will chew him out later.

Good John doesn't have time for all the nonsense around here.

I've been thinking about the Chicken Thread Family tree.

To the best of my calculations I've got a Ma, too many butthead brothers, a cousin and a seester!

What I really want to know is, who is my daddy?



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Haha I wish that was it...that's only for that last one I listed. The total bill is going to be about 10 times that at the high end of their estimate.
You popped my balloon.

How is she acting in the I'm really not that sick Dad mode?

I strongly dislike what you are going through.

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You popped my balloon.

How is she acting in the I'm really not that sick Dad mode?

I strongly dislike what you are going through.

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I know this is going to sound weird but one of the biggest indicators to us was, her not running up and down the deck stairs, but walking up and down slow like most normal dogs. She's usually in such a hurry that there are times where she'll fall up the stairs (and I have to look at her and say, "really? You're falling UP the stairs?")

In the last week or so, her entire demeanor has changed 180 degrees. She's gone from high energy, mischievous, alert, happy, ready to play at the drop of a hat, to...subdued. Quiet, ears back, sad eyes.



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Tried to find this on the Weather Channel today , but a friend emailed it to me , worth watching - what a disaster for them out there .

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Prayers sent your way TN.
Times like this are so stressful but she is in good hands.
I found this really good read (really long) and it outlined all the other tests some physicians perform but liver biopsy will give you a lot of information.
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I know this is going to sound weird but one of the biggest indicators to us was, her not running up and down the deck stairs, but walking up and down slow like most normal dogs. She's usually in such a hurry that there are times where she'll fall up the stairs (and I have to look at her and say, "really? You're falling UP the stairs?")

In the last week or so, her entire demeanor has changed 180 degrees. She's gone from high energy, mischievous, alert, happy, ready to play at the drop of a hat, to...subdued. Quiet, ears back, sad eyes.
Why should that sound weird?

You and the Mrs know better than anyone else what is weird and what is not with Mocha.

Best parents in the world are those that pay attention to what seems weird.

Smoochies to Mocha!

I refuse to believe she's not going to be okay.
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Hello everybody. I am back from the Outback and beyond. Did ya miss me? TN so sorry to hear Mocha has not been well. We can't have that. Doc, your little Miss Evie is just gorgeous.
I haven't really caught up with all the news. We were at the cabin off grid for two weeks. I took one shower in all that time. It still boggles my mind. Two of my sons flew in and really hit it hard.
I thought I may have permanent hearing loss with the generators running all day. A lot accomplished. Windows and doors trimmed inside and out. Tongue and groove put up in some places and
stairs to the loft. Soffits all around. Gable log siding put up. Back door stairs. Now Rich wants to go back this weekend and do more. We got back Monday and I slept 24 hrs around the clock!

Rich's only sister passed away while we were gone. Funeral which was delayed happened yesterday. Drove 12 hrs RT to make it. It had to be done outside, but was a lovely setting, although sad.

We took Kiri to vet today for xrays. More bad news, she is not pregnant. I think our next step is to get a second thyroid done on her, thru MSU this time and then breed her to our own Bodhi and
if that doesn't work, we will probably have to let it go.

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Tried to find this on the Weather Channel today , but a friend emailed it to me , worth watching - what a disaster for them out there .

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Wow, in 20 minutes so many people's livelihoods were wiped out. That is sad.

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Times like this are so stressful but she is in good hands.
I found this really good read (really long) and it outlined all the other tests some physicians perform but liver biopsy will give you a lot of information.
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Why should that sound weird?

You and the Mrs know better than anyone else what is weird and what is not with Mocha.

Best parents in the world are those that pay attention to what seems weird.

Smoochies to Mocha!

I refuse to believe she's not going to be okay.
I may not retire until I'm 75 if this keeps up but we'll get her right again
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Good morning everyone including YKW.

Cress, really good to hear from you you cabin looks great not to mention all your worker bees.
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As far as roof news... the demolition team showed up at 10:00 yesterday and the "boss" called and said he was on his way with the materials for reconstruction. He showed up at 3:00pm, but only because Rich called his cell and chewed his butt. He claimed the traffic in Sturgis caused him to take 5 hours instead of 2 hours to get here. I've been through Sturgis during rally week (it was a total brain-fart accident), and the traffic IS bad, but it's only about 45 minutes to get through town instead of the usual 5 minutes. Another little fib, one of several, and I was starting to get really steamed that he either thought we were completely stupid, or he just can't keep his stories straight.

When he finally did get here, the roofer guys bitched him out because there were apparently SEVERAL roofs under the one you could see, and they had to scrape something like 5 different layers off. They only got half (less than half, actually) of the roof off, and then Bossman strolled in the house and said it was going to cost another SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS for the extra labor, at which point I had a meltdown. First all the lying, then adding half again to the cost of just the roof repair... he pushed my last button. I told him and Rich to go discuss it outside because I couldn't take anymore of it, so he said they'd just pack up and leave and we could get someone else to do the roof. I think this was his plan all along - screw us out of every penny we own and leave us with no roof at the height of thunderstorm season. And another thunderstorm with heavy rain forecast for last night (which thankfully didn't happen, it missed us to the north). I told him he was effing well NOT going to leave without replacing the roof that we are paying him for. (It's not like he's doing us a favor, we're paying EXTRA to have "professionals" do the job right. Jesus wept...)

Anyway, after Rich talked to him outside, he said that "bossman" said the insurance company would most likely pick up the extra cost if they got pictures of the mess up there. Um, like, maybe lead with THAT, instead of "it's going to cost you an extra $6,000.00? So now I feel stupid for popping off at him, and I'll have to apologize, but the fact is, he's lost my trust and I really don't want him doing any more work than is absolutely necessary.

To top everything off, the wind was blowing bad all night and rattling all the debris in the dump trailer (and all the stuff they just threw on the ground, before "bossman" brought the trailer, which I suppose we will have to clean up), which made Jasper stand outside the bedroom window and bark all night. ALL. NIGHT. Rich can't hear a thing without his hearing aids but I only got about 2 hours total sleep last night. I wanted to scream at Jasper to STFU, but he was just doing his job, and I never reprimand him for barking at anything. So I feel like death warmed over today, and I have to deal with the roofers again today. Or maybe not. Maybe I can make Rich do all the liaison work.

I need to take some valerian, I think. My back muscles are all tight and crampy from all the stress. I wish I didn't get so stressed! Hey, if I ever say anything about having any remodeling done to the house, someone slap me, HARD, and remind me that it's beyond my ability to cope. Thank you!

In any case, we're not going to get the new roof by the weekend, but I can't really blame them, they thought (and so did we) that there was only one shingle roof under the metal one. They won't even get the rest of the roof off today, much less get any new roofing ON. The roofer guys were angels, though, they managed to put up a layer of plastic lined tarpaper stuff at least before they left, in case it rained, but it took them until sundown.

Which brings up a funny (as in odd, not ha-ha) thing. One of the guys is a big Lakota Indian, 6'4" if he's an inch, and he said as he was leaving last night that he couldn't live out this far because of the dark. The DARK? Yeah, he said he didn't know how we could sleep at night without the security of other people around, and that he wouldn't be able to do that. Rich told him we had the security of Smith & Wesson and a big dog, and what else did we need? Just laughing it off, you know, but that big guy was seriously scared, and I think he didn't even want to drive back home in the dark. Just goes to show you, you can't judge a book by its cover, can you?

At least the insurance adjuster has been advised of the new price, and will get back to us ASAP with his "judgement." He HAS to approve it, right? How can we go through a winter in South Dakota without a roof? We just can't, that's all.

I guess that's enough inane rambling from me for one day. I can hardly think straight. I hope Mocha's OK. I can remember THAT.
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Hello everybody. I am back from the Outback and beyond. Did ya miss me? TN so sorry to hear Mocha has not been well. We can't have that. Doc, your little Miss Evie is just gorgeous.
I haven't really caught up with all the news. We were at the cabin off grid for two weeks. I took one shower in all that time. It still boggles my mind. Two of my sons flew in and really hit it hard.
I thought I may have permanent hearing loss with the generators running all day. A lot accomplished. Windows and doors trimmed inside and out. Tongue and groove put up in some places and
stairs to the loft. Soffits all around. Gable log siding put up. Back door stairs. Now Rich wants to go back this weekend and do more. We got back Monday and I slept 24 hrs around the clock!

Rich's only sister passed away while we were gone. Funeral which was delayed happened yesterday. Drove 12 hrs RT to make it. It had to be done outside, but was a lovely setting, although sad.

We took Kiri to vet today for xrays. More bad news, she is not pregnant. I think our next step is to get a second thyroid done on her, thru MSU this time and then breed her to our own Bodhi and
if that doesn't work, we will probably have to let it go.

Will see if I have more pic's later, but here is a picture of the 'crew' I had working for me. I would highly recommend them.
Hey girl!

Off the grid for two weeks? I have withdrawals just thinking about disconnecting my computer to move it so I can have the rest of the wall paper stripped.

I don't need to go to your cabin to not take a shower!



Very sorry to hear about the loss of your sister-in-law.

Welcome back!
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As far as roof news... the demolition team showed up at 10:00 yesterday and the "boss" called and said he was on his way with the materials for reconstruction. He showed up at 3:00pm, but only because Rich called his cell and chewed his butt. He claimed the traffic in Sturgis caused him to take 5 hours instead of 2 hours to get here. I've been through Sturgis during rally week (it was a total brain-fart accident), and the traffic IS bad, but it's only about 45 minutes to get through town instead of the usual 5 minutes. Another little fib, one of several, and I was starting to get really steamed that he either thought we were completely stupid, or he just can't keep his stories straight.

When he finally did get here, the roofer guys bitched him out because there were apparently SEVERAL roofs under the one you could see, and they had to scrape something like 5 different layers off. They only got half (less than half, actually) of the roof off, and then Bossman strolled in the house and said it was going to cost another SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS for the extra labor, at which point I had a meltdown. First all the lying, then adding half again to the cost of just the roof repair... he pushed my last button. I told him and Rich to go discuss it outside because I couldn't take anymore of it, so he said they'd just pack up and leave and we could get someone else to do the roof. I think this was his plan all along - screw us out of every penny we own and leave us with no roof at the height of thunderstorm season. And another thunderstorm with heavy rain forecast for last night (which thankfully didn't happen, it missed us to the north). I told him he was effing well NOT going to leave without replacing the roof that we are paying him for. (It's not like he's doing us a favor, we're paying EXTRA to have "professionals" do the job right. Jesus wept...)

Anyway, after Rich talked to him outside, he said that "bossman" said the insurance company would most likely pick up the extra cost if they got pictures of the mess up there. Um, like, maybe lead with THAT, instead of "it's going to cost you an extra $6,000.00? So now I feel stupid for popping off at him, and I'll have to apologize, but the fact is, he's lost my trust and I really don't want him doing any more work than is absolutely necessary.

To top everything off, the wind was blowing bad all night and rattling all the debris in the dump trailer (and all the stuff they just threw on the ground, before "bossman" brought the trailer, which I suppose we will have to clean up), which made Jasper stand outside the bedroom window and bark all night. ALL. NIGHT. Rich can't hear a thing without his hearing aids but I only got about 2 hours total sleep last night. I wanted to scream at Jasper to STFU, but he was just doing his job, and I never reprimand him for barking at anything. So I feel like death warmed over today, and I have to deal with the roofers again today. Or maybe not. Maybe I can make Rich do all the liaison work.

I need to take some valerian, I think. My back muscles are all tight and crampy from all the stress. I wish I didn't get so stressed! Hey, if I ever say anything about having any remodeling done to the house, someone slap me, HARD, and remind me that it's beyond my ability to cope. Thank you!

In any case, we're not going to get the new roof by the weekend, but I can't really blame them, they thought (and so did we) that there was only one shingle roof under the metal one. They won't even get the rest of the roof off today, much less get any new roofing ON. The roofer guys were angels, though, they managed to put up a layer of plastic lined tarpaper stuff at least before they left, in case it rained, but it took them until sundown.

Which brings up a funny (as in odd, not ha-ha) thing. One of the guys is a big Lakota Indian, 6'4" if he's an inch, and he said as he was leaving last night that he couldn't live out this far because of the dark. The DARK? Yeah, he said he didn't know how we could sleep at night without the security of other people around, and that he wouldn't be able to do that. Rich told him we had the security of Smith & Wesson and a big dog, and what else did we need? Just laughing it off, you know, but that big guy was seriously scared, and I think he didn't even want to drive back home in the dark. Just goes to show you, you can't judge a book by its cover, can you?

At least the insurance adjuster has been advised of the new price, and will get back to us ASAP with his "judgement." He HAS to approve it, right? How can we go through a winter in South Dakota without a roof? We just can't, that's all.

I guess that's enough inane rambling from me for one day. I can hardly think straight. I hope Mocha's OK. I can remember THAT.
Dang Lannie!

Such a potty mouth you had!

It's okay, though. We haven't had a rant like that here on the CT in a while!

I am inclined to agree with you that the bossman knew what he was trying to get away with! You guys live so remotely he probably thought it would be easy to squeeze you for more money. Bad business.

Keep us posted on the roofers and the "boss" man.

I would be watching that dude like a hawk!

I wish I could have been present to witness you blowing your stack! I bet you are cute with steam coming out of your ears.

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I know this is going to sound weird but one of the biggest indicators to us was, her not running up and down the deck stairs, but walking up and down slow like most normal dogs. She's usually in such a hurry that there are times where she'll fall up the stairs (and I have to look at her and say, "really? You're falling UP the stairs?")

In the last week or so, her entire demeanor has changed 180 degrees. She's gone from high energy, mischievous, alert, happy, ready to play at the drop of a hat, to...subdued. Quiet, ears back, sad eyes.
You reminded me of a good story with Axel.

Back in the day. My then boyfriend had a lake house and we would do the weekend warrior thing every weekend.

He had a really cool and spacious porch.

Axel would do zoomies around the house and skip the stairs on one side, haul a$$ across the porch and fly off the other end of the porch, skipping those steps, as well! Oh the memories!

I forgot I taught him to hand somebody a beer!
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You reminded me of a good story with Axel.

Back in the day. My then boyfriend had a lake house and we would do the weekend warrior thing every weekend.

He had a really cool and spacious porch.

Axel would do zoomies around the house and skip the stairs on one side, haul a$$ across the porch and fly off the other end of the porch, skipping those steps, as well! Oh the memories!

I forgot I taught him to hand somebody a beer!

Was that accomplished with positive or negative reinforcement training methods?
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Lannie, I don't think you have to feel stupid for chewing the guy out.

I'd wait until the guy is finished with the job (if he ever does ) and then give him a real earful, in addition to registering a complaint everywhere I could think of (who am I kidding; I'm not very good at chewing people out to their faces.)

At least it sounds like you have a good rapport with the crew, and they are the ones who matter when it comes to good workmanship, at least. Who knows, they might even enjoy hearing boss get a good earful—he might be screwing them too—and do an even better job on your roof in sympathy with you.

My son has been plumping for us to move away from civilization as far as we can, and aside from telling him it would take too long to get to the grocery store, and that there would be no fast food restaurants anywhere within reach, I haven't had that many reasons to counter him with (other than, "We're not moving and that's it!") So I'll have to keep him up to date with your trials and tribulations.

But I must admit, aside from your troubles, the idea of moving to the boonies is really attractive to me. Just not quite as boonie (boony?—oh yes, the proper singular is boondocks**, I think) as you seem to be.

Interesting word derivation of boondocks—

**"The boondocks is an American expression from the Tagalog word bundók ("mountain"). It originally referred to a remote rural area, but now, is often applied to an out-of-the-way area considered backward and unsophisticated by city-folk. It can also refer to a mountain."

Tagalog is the language they speak in the Phillippines! Who'd have thunk we'd have borrowed that expression?
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Was that accomplished with positive or negative reinforcement training methods?
I am going to go with positive

I would hand Axel a beer and he would take it to the person that was requesting it and get the hell petted out of him!
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Was that accomplished with positive or negative reinforcement training methods?

To clarify, I was referring to your BF, not Axel...
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