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#1 ·
I have no clue what order NoBite is going to post the pics, but there is a pic of my Dry Pond, Dominic and Princess Lily Belle. One pic of the neighbors DD's (well, at least 2 of the A-holes). The black Dane pup seems okay. I hope NB blows that pic up, so you can actually see their partial pack of dogs. But, if not, you can at least see I take pride in my property and the neighbors don't.

Spock,

Patience, Grasshopper!

>:)
 
#24,882 · (Edited)
Mel,

I'm almost done with the Farseer trilogy (And again, thanks for the suggestion, awesome reads!)...is this a 3-book series and that's all there is of the Six Duchies, Fitz, Nighteyes, and the Fool, or did she write more books about them? Just these 3 are hefty books and it's taken me a while to get to where I am...usually I can finish a book in a few days. I've got Stephen King's 'The Institute' up next in the queue but I'm hoping the story of FitzChivalry isn't over by the time I turn the last page of Assassin's Quest :2smile:

Oh yeah, you're just getting started. This article lists her books and suggests a reading order:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog...7694c00b4411ea824a03780a1c0e10&dpid=tekz25v83

**Addition to the article, the Fitz and Fool Trilogy they mention is complete now.



In the World of the Elderlings books (that's the world Fitz is in), there are the three Fitz trilogies (chronological order: Farseer, Tawny Man, Fitz and Fool) and the Liveship Traders trilogy (same world, different culture and "magic" elements) which are must reads, IMO. There are some minor overlaps in events and timelines, and at least one major linkage [Amber, tee hee--I'm not sure at what point you find how she fits into all of the Fitz books]

And also the Rain Wild Chronicle, which I didn't think was quite as good as those 4 trilogies, though I read it enjoyably enough, and it does fill in some empty spots and ties in with some of the stuff in her last series.


My daughter, disagrees with the article and says to read them in the order Hobb wrote them. (Which is the order I read them in, because I read them as they came out, and waited eagerly for the next.) So the next trilogy you would read is the Liveship Traders, which will take you away from Fitz for a bit, but is worth it in its own right. I think one of the main characters in that trilogy was the most intriguingly developed one in all of her books...he's a fairly nasty self-absorbed sort who does things totally for his own benefit which turn out to be good for other people--they adore him and assign to him the best motives in the world. It's debatable whether he has a kind heart underneath and has been twisted by life, or whether he's just an out and out rotter.

So if you go with my daughter's recommendation, it would be:
Farseer, Liveship Traders, Tawny Man, Rain Wild Chronicles, and finally the Fitz and Fool series.

That may be it...at least the last book in the Fitz and Fool books (Assasin's Fate) seems to tie up loose ends from all of those series. And its ending made me cry, but not just because it was the end of the series.



Soldier Son is a different world...I wasn't that much in sympathy with the main character, but it had some good "magical" world development in it. Worth reading.
 
#24,886 ·
You need one with a dobe in some kind of weird costume (Ask MC for one) and the first picture with a "You'd better sleep with one eye open tonight" message on the back.
I am revisiting this because, it was MY idea! Where is my T-shirt? I think I specifically asked for a tank top.

Ma?

Sic him.

TN?

Better send me a Christmas present. Or else, I will file a patent lawsuit.

Can you all tell I have nothing better to do tonight?

:grin2:
 
#24,889 ·
Oh yeah, you're just getting started. This article lists her books and suggests a reading order:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog...7694c00b4411ea824a03780a1c0e10&dpid=tekz25v83

**Addition to the article, the Fitz and Fool Trilogy they mention is complete now.



In the World of the Elderlings books (that's the world Fitz is in), there are the three Fitz trilogies (chronological order: Farseer, Tawny Man, Fitz and Fool) and the Liveship Traders trilogy (same world, different culture and "magic" elements) which are must reads, IMO. There are some minor overlaps in events and timelines, and at least one major linkage [Amber, tee hee--I'm not sure at what point you find how she fits into all of the Fitz books]

And also the Rain Wild Chronicle, which I didn't think was quite as good as those 4 trilogies, though I read it enjoyably enough, and it does fill in some empty spots and ties in with some of the stuff in her last series.


My daughter, disagrees with the article and says to read them in the order Hobb wrote them. (Which is the order I read them in, because I read them as they came out, and waited eagerly for the next.) So the next trilogy you would read is the Liveship Traders, which will take you away from Fitz for a bit, but is worth it in its own right. I think one of the main characters in that trilogy was the most intriguingly developed one in all of her books...he's a fairly nasty self-absorbed sort who does things totally for his own benefit which turn out to be good for other people--they adore him and assign to him the best motives in the world. It's debatable whether he has a kind heart underneath and has been twisted by life, or whether he's just an out and out rotter.

So if you go with my daughter's recommendation, it would be:
Farseer, Liveship Traders, Tawny Man, Rain Wild Chronicles, and finally the Fitz and Fool series.

That may be it...at least the last book in the Fitz and Fool books (Assasin's Fate) seems to tie up loose ends from all of those series. And its ending made me cry, but not just because it was the end of the series.



Soldier Son is a different world...I wasn't that much in sympathy with the main character, but it had some good "magical" world development in it. Worth reading.
I may have to re-read all the books - have all of them. Hmm although the Rain Wild Chronicles may not(looking at the years - I may have slowed down reading by then)...will have to look through the boxes.

If able to without spoiling the book for TN - why no sympathy with main character. I do not recall how it ended anymore....but not sure he had choice?

When I looked at the years of these books can't believe it has been 25 years since the books....:2surprise:
 
#24,891 ·
Good morning all - What a pretty morning here - clouds and some light showers - was very foggy last night ! Had a pretty good day ! Well part of it was - lol Was working on my taxes ! I hate doing that work ! Had to take a break and call Alan j. -- Its always fun to take to him and the others I talk to on here , After our talk - it was back to the tax work - then I had the greatest help a guy could get - Mr. Business offered his services ! Hoped up and laid across my lap ! true therapy ! Then he got up and I got up to - to get something to drink - got tot the fridge and hear something hit the floor - it was my tax books and some paper work with Mr. B looking at me with his ears laying back with the look of --- Dad - them numbers just are not going to work - lol

Around 1:30 - I looked at Doberson and said lets take a ride ! Oh boy - he gets so excited when I say that - we loaded up and went to the Bean plant - I needed to check on some things there - There new manger there is very good - along with her job there - she works with the Indiana Great Dain rescue - the others that work there was so happy to see Mr. B ! He hadn't been in there for a long time - long time ! I bet we were there for 45 minutes - He sure liked all the rubs - lol and what a boy he was - set there like a pro ! He did get the attention of a few visitors that came in - lol they would do a double take along with the oh chit look - its a man eating Doberman ! Of course - Mr. B had the eye on them with ears at attention :grin2: But he just sat there - on guard . Good boy !

We also had a nail trim and ear cleaning ! We had a pooped out Puppy last night :grin2:

Everybody have a great day !
 
#24,893 · (Edited)
modm, I'm not sure why I didn't like Soldier Son as much.

Soldier Son--Yes, he didn't have a choice--his problem was part of who he was, a necessary part, and the world he was born into rejected him for that. But he had a harder time accepting himself; I don't think he was as rebellious as Fitz. He bought into his world's disgust with him more.

Fitz was rejected by his society because of the Wit, which was, of course, an important part of who he was; similarly he felt that he had no choice but to use the wit. But I could understand that because I enjoyed his relationship with Nighteyes so much.

:thinking:

I guess I was just more in tune with the Wit than I was with SS's inborn "talent"? SS's struggle and self-disgust were a little too graphically emphasized for me, especially in the first book; now that I think of it, I had some of the same unaccepting attitude as his world did toward him.

Which I guess means that Hobb actually pretty effectively emphasized the magnitude of the guy's difficulties and how hard it was for him to come to terms with them by the negatives in my thinking she revealed to me (surprising for me to realize, since I struggle with the same difficulties on a much smaller scale.)

Thanks for the early morning up short you just put me through.

I need to reread the books too--I bet I'd like them better now that I see where the storyline was going and can be aware of my own biases too.

Edited to add:
I think there are 4 Rain Wild books?? But they're smaller; even with four, I don't think the series is as long as the other. To me, they were a definite add-on afterthought...or at least had that flavor.
 
#24,894 ·
[BI bet I'd like them better now that I see where the storyline was going ][/B]

But isn't that is the reason to read a book or watch a movie ? You don't know what's going to happen ? That keeps your interest in it ? Why or what is going to happen or not ?

It would be like watching a movie about Midway or Peral Harbor - you know the Japanese are going to blow the hell out of it -

But who am I to say - I'm not right :grin2:

BTW Mel , if you had slept in a little longer it would have been tomorrow :grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2:
 
#24,898 ·
Happy birthday, Toad! So awesome!
 
#24,899 · (Edited)
[BI bet I'd like them better now that I see where the storyline was going ][/B]

But isn't that is the reason to read a book or watch a movie ? You don't know what's going to happen ? That keeps your interest in it ? Why or what is going to happen or not ?

It would be like watching a movie about Midway or Peral Harbor - you know the Japanese are going to blow the hell out of it -

But who am I to say - I'm not right :grin2:

BTW Mel , if you had slept in a little longer it would have been tomorrow :grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2:
I'm a massive re-reader. Each time I notice something different to appreciate, and when it's an old favorite, it's sort of a comfort thing too. (I won't mention the snacking that is an important part of the ritual, though.)

AND, some of the books I read I have to go over several times to remember any of it (nonfiction-ish).

(Look at that--I'm caught the practice of a comma after "and" from SP. But sometimes it really does work.)




And hey!! Don't pick on my sleeping habits. To bed at about 4 AM last night and up at 7AM...I'm going short today. I was about that short yesterday too...I don't know what has gotten into me. Anyway, if I don't show up tomorrow until it's afternoon, I deserve the extra sleep. phbbbbtt......
 
#24,900 ·
Toad!



Happy Happy HAPPY Birthday!!!

Oops, just realized that might be too much for your (computer) system, AB (or have you got it all working now?)



So



(Though static doesn't work quite as well)





Do start an announcement thread, if you'd like.

AIEEEEEEE!!! DT, Windows 10 and dial up have all conspired to drive me crazy...I DID start an announcement thread--DT ate it--I had already loaded it and DT just pretended that it couldn't find the page.

At this point, I'm too cold and too irritated and can't even go to the library today because they are closed to complete a new roofing project.

I hear someone has a big Toad tribute up on Facebook/Foxfire Dobermans--I'll be back when I can go do this at the library--until then--BAH HUMBUG!!

ABTLH
 
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