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Figure out if I have enough movement of the pvc plumbing so I can slot the baseboard and 2x4 and push the plumbing over....hmmm if it doesn't weaken anything


Just be careful NOT to put to much pressure on the PVC Modm , and how much you have to more it - you can change the amount of fall sometimes

BTW - Are you going to put in another 1 piece unit ? Or are you going to put in tile or granite ?
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Well my friends - I may have out done myself this morning !

Eggs sounded good - along with sausage ! So I fried up 2 eggs then added several spoon fulls of Pico de Gallo that I had got at Kroger's the other day ! It has Tomato's , Onions , Jalapeno's and Cilantro in it - all diced up ! Then when it was all done - I then added several spoon full of Tostitos cheese ( Mild ) down the center and then folded it over - Boy it sure was good - well not good , but more like great !

So SP - your waiting for sun up ? Get your rear end in the kitchen and make your love a cowboy breakfast !
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And now--I'll go home and work on the repair to the stripped out screws on the upper hinge of the bathroom door. (What can I say--it's an older place and the doors, hinges and screws are original.) I guess it's not as bad as the really old place I rented -in Los Angeles that had plumbing so old that some of the sink drains were screw together pipes--which it turned out weren't replaceable, period. I learned a lot about old plumbing from that place.

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Alright, time to steer this thread back to where it belongs....Chickens, Donkeys, DIY, Home Repairs & Improvement!

(Need to draw B67 out of his posting slump... Maybe he's "drywalled" out?)


AB, I just had this problem on my MBath closet doors, holes stripped out in doors and hinges kept loosening up from lots of use. Our house is not that old (1977) so not much wood on edges of the hollow doors, mostly space between front/back paneling. If your doors are older, then there might be more wood to screw in longer and/or larger diameter flathead hinge screws, like deck screws. Door frame side of hinges can normally be repaired this way.

In my case, not enough wood left in door, so here's what I did:
(Note: This method permanently bonds hinge halves to door)

1. Remove hinge pins from door and remove door.

2. Place door sideways against wall to prop up.

3. Remove hinge halves & screws from mortises.

4. Mix up some J-B Weld 4400 psi clear epoxy HD has @ $4.47 tube, https://www.homedepot.com/p/J-B-Weld...114H/303710929
(I buy this is 8oz bottles, great for many repairs, see below)

5. Spread Epoxy in mortises, reinsert hinge halves, wipe off excess immediately.

6. Put epoxy into screw holes and on screws. Screw all screws in, even stripped ones, easily.

7. Again, wipe off any excess epoxy. WD-40 Contact Cleaner works well from HD to get residue off without finish damage (I also have cases of this stuff)

8. Even though epoxy cure time is 1 hour, cure 24 hours for full strength bond, before reattaching door with hinge pins.

Voila', no more loose door hinges!


More DIY!!!


24 Ft. Extension Ladder Foot Repair Using J-B ClearWeld 4400psi Epoxy

Swivel foot on my 24 ft. Cuprum (Werner's Mexican competitor) extension ladder, bought from HD, broke off at aluminum casting a couple years ago. I tried to obtain replacement parts but due to ladder's mfrs. liability costs in US (1/2 of sale price of each ladder) not available. You are forced to buy a new ladder (next time buy Werner, made in USA!)


Unbroken Ladder Swivel Foot




Broken Off Ladder Foot



Step 1- Drill and Attach SST FH Mach Screws (Epoxy reinforcements)




Step 2- Clamp Foot Swivel Base Fitting In Place- Pour In JB Weld 4400psi Epoxy



Step 3- Cure 24 hrs. Then Remove Mold Sides & Dress Up w/Dremel Tool




Step 4- Re-Attach Foot w/new SST Bolt Hardware - Finished!



Repaired swivel foot is actually stronger than original ladder foot...

Disclaimer- Repairs for own personal, not commercial ladder use. Duplicate at your own risk.
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It's New? Bark At It.
Moves? Chase It.
Doesn't Move? Smell It.
Liquid? Spill and Dribble It.
Treat or Food? Wolf It Down.
Not Food? Chew It Slowly, Be Quiet & Hide From Human.
A Toy? Shred & Destroy It.
Stuffed? De-Stuff It.
Bites You Back? Wrestle It!

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Don't Git Crankee!.....Just Git U Donkee!...... to Guard U Chickees!........and Kick Bad Doggees!






Sung to the Reggae tune of "Ride Your Donkey"
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I'm donkey shopping right now. Donkeys are pretty much free. It's the fuel and travel time that aggravates me.

Still getting a Red Ryder BB gun, though!
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Figure out if I have enough movement of the pvc plumbing so I can slot the baseboard and 2x4 and push the plumbing over....hmmm if it doesn't weaken anything


Just be careful NOT to put to much pressure on the PVC Modm , and how much you have to more it - you can change the amount of fall sometimes

BTW - Are you going to put in another 1 piece unit ? Or are you going to put in tile or granite ?


Moe, I have limited experience with shower installs. I did a pan replacement and retile job in MIL's older house. Maybe you should get B67's and SP's Alan input.

If you are retrofitting with a fiberglass insert, looks like there is some room underneath for the piping. IMO, looks you could cut off pvc to stubs, then install 90 or 45 PVC elbows to offset piping run low to inside of wall studs, while staying below shower insert?

There should be information included with shower insert about clearances on all sides?
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Well my friends - I may have out done myself this morning !

Eggs sounded good - along with sausage ! So I fried up 2 eggs then added several spoon fulls of Pico de Gallo that I had got at Kroger's the other day ! It has Tomato's , Onions , Jalapeno's and Cilantro in it - all diced up ! Then when it was all done - I then added several spoon full of Tostitos cheese ( Mild ) down the center and then folded it over - Boy it sure was good - well not good , but more like great !

So SP - your waiting for sun up ? Get your rear end in the kitchen and make your love a cowboy breakfast !
I trained Mister from the very start. I don't "do" breakfast. On your own!

He's on his way to get breakfast as we speak.

Stop interrupting my donkey shopping.

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Well, I was shopping for a donkey and stumbled across this.

I was shopping for a donkey, dammit.

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/d/o...037235650.html
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Well a donkey would be cheaper than a gun. I was hoping to reclaim the other half of my carport, though. Temporary fencing makes me nervous. Then here comes the feed bill.

I need advice from Lannie.
Luckily, I don't have a roaming neighbor dog problem here, but if I did, I would have to say SSS if nothing else had worked. I know it would be hard to do, but you have every right.

We've had two "strange" dogs on our property in 15 years. The first one was a farm dog belonging to a neighbor around 7 miles south of us, who got spooked by a thunderstorm and took off and apparently got lost. I thought dogs knew where they were all the time, especially if they got there by their own feet. But we had dogs, too, and he made friends with them and thought he might stay, so we had him for a week before we finally found his owner. He was a good dog, and didn't chase our chickens, and I would have kept him if we hadn't found his mom.

The second time was when our two Pyrs went walkabout one time and came back with another dog. It was a 6 month old Maremma (looks just like a Pyrenees) that they KIDNAPPED from someone about 10 miles northeast of us. Those dogs did get around when they were young, that's for sure. In hindsight, we should have kept that Maremma pup, but I thought someone would be missing him, so I put the word out that we had an extra "sheepdog." That's what they call them around here. Anyway, guy calls and says his young Maremma is missing from the field and wanted to come see if it was his. I had the pup confined in the big training pen with our female, Kiara, so when the guy got here (pulling a 20 foot stock trailer!) and positively identified his dog, he didn't want to go in the pen to get him. I thought, OK, he's worried Kiara will bite him or something (she would NEVER, but he didn't know), so I went in and looped a leash on him and brought him out. When I tried to hand the leash to the guy, he literally shrank back like he was terrified of this six month old PUPPY, and asked me if I would please put him in the trailer. IN THE TRAILER?? I asked him why not in the cab of the truck? He said, "Oh, no, never in the truck, could you please just put him in the trailer?" Oh. My. God. But what could I do? Not my dog. So I put him in the trailer, took my leash off him, gave him head noogies and told him to try to be a good boy, but under my breath, I told him if he ever came back here, I was KEEPING him. Sadly, he never came back.

Which has nothing to do with your problem whatsoever, but it just goes to show that some people just shouldn't have dogs at all. They have no sense. I feel really sorry for the dogs when they get stuck with people like that.

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I was shopping for a donkey, dammit.

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/d/o...037235650.html
If you don't grab him, I hope somebody else nice does. It would be a shame if he went for dog food.

You know, you talked about cows once. Cows as a general rule (the girl cows, not steers and bulls) HATE dogs because they're predators and their motherly instinct tells them to mash dogs into a paste. So there is that. But honestly, a good guardian dog would be your best bet, if you could make sure he'd run off the neighbor dogs and not start trying to play with them. No puppies, though, get an adult that's already past the "chickens make great squeaky toys" phase.

ETA: I meant to say, a guardian dog would be cheaper than a gun, too. Maybe not a BB gun, though.
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I just texted Larry Big Bird. Waiting for a response.

Told him a lie about how you all were dissing him.

Portland John is MIA as well.
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Just be careful NOT to put to much pressure on the PVC Modm , and how much you have to more it - you can change the amount of fall sometimes

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Moe, I have limited experience with shower installs. I did a pan replacement and retile job in MIL's older house. Maybe you could get B67's and SP's Alan input.

If you are retrofitting with a fiberglass insert, looks like there is some room underneath for the piping. IMO, looks you could cut off pvc to stubs, then install 90 or 45 PVC elbows to offset piping run low to inside of wall studs, while staying below shower insert?

There should be information included with shower insert about clearances on all sides?

Thanks for the input guys!

Not putting back a one piece shower - wouldn't fit through the doors....putting in a pan and 3 walls then installing a pivot door. All picked out by my wife who is the boss!!!

I am missing what you are saying Doc about - you can change the amount of fall sometimes

Have 48X34 pan. The width is dead (you know what) 48" the depth is 32.75" so not really 34".

Stud to stud is also right on 48" so will be a tight fit but should be ok. The water lines coming up are in the way as shown. Stud to stud area has to be free of obstruction. The 2x4 frame on bottom is almost over a joist. I think it is 2 inches I did not measure while under there. From the water lines entering the bottom, I have 3 finger widths to the joist. So just a bit into the 2x4 frame.

I would have to rerun some of the tubing underneath and drill up through the other side of the 2x4....unless I slot the floor board and 2X4 with hole or jig saw....
Then loosing the hold clamps below and see if there is a that much movement...do not think so.

If you let the pipe going up to the shower head go more plumb you can see it would align into the base 2x4...where it should have been.

The one good thing is the floor board area is level at least with the 2 foot level I have....or at least level enough I doubt I could make it more level with a shower bed.
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Alright, time to steer this thread back to where it belongs....Chickens, Donkeys, DIY, Home Repairs & Improvement!

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I just texted Larry Big Bird. Waiting for a response.

Told him a lie about how you all were dissing him.

Portland John is MIA as well.
What did I miss SP laying her traps.
- now off to read Moe & SD project info.
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Oh yeah, Moe, for some reason (being in TX) I was thinking you were on a first floor slab!

IMO, that would definitely be the the best solution is to reroute piping beneath subfloor to come up through base 2x4. Remember, if you notch out 2x4s, put reinforcement plates to span openings after pipes installed, to maintain strength of wood.



If you have access underneath, there must be a basement below?
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Liquid? Spill and Dribble It.
Treat or Food? Wolf It Down.
Not Food? Chew It Slowly, Be Quiet & Hide From Human.
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Stuffed? De-Stuff It.
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]What did I miss SP laying her traps. [/B]
- now off to read Moe & SD project info.

Welcome back B67!

Naah, SP has put you on back burner 'cause she is on a "Donkey Quest", but keeps getting diverted by horse ads....
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If you don't grab him, I hope somebody else nice does. It would be a shame if he went for dog food.

You know, you talked about cows once. Cows as a general rule (the girl cows, not steers and bulls) HATE dogs because they're predators and their motherly instinct tells them to mash dogs into a paste. So there is that. But honestly, a good guardian dog would be your best bet, if you could make sure he'd run off the neighbor dogs and not start trying to play with them. No puppies, though, get an adult that's already past the "chickens make great squeaky toys" phase.

ETA: I meant to say, a guardian dog would be cheaper than a gun, too. Maybe not a BB gun, though.

Let me catch you up just a tad.

When I bought my house about 4 years ago it came with a dog. Dominic. Previous owners of this house were elderly and moving to Washington State for health reasons.

Dominic was a Bad ass! Dom and I had an agreement. He protected his place very well. My goal was to get him to the vet to get neutered. I could pet and comb him, but couldn't get a leash on him. His amorous personality was his downfall. A little lady came over one day and dragged him, locked up, over to her house and Dom never came back home. I know who shot him. Surprisingly it wasn't the bad neighbors.
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What did I miss SP laying her traps.
- now off to read Moe & SD project info.
Bout damn time!

Where the hell have you been?
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MOE - for easy plumbing redirection of lines, I use SHARKBITES...if not covered up in basement.
- crimped PEX or soldered copper is better, if fitting or pipe is behind a closed wall
- behind a closed wall, SharkBites can't be replaced, without opening up the wall // if they ever leaked...which is remotely rare, but still a small risk

Instruction video:
https://www.sharkbite.com/resources/...nnect-fittings
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You know, you talked about cows once. Cows as a general rule (the girl cows, not steers and bulls) HATE dogs because they're predators and their motherly instinct tells them to mash dogs into a paste. So there is that. But honestly, a good guardian dog would be your best bet, if you could make sure he'd run off the neighbor dogs and not start trying to play with them. No puppies, though, get an adult that's already past the "chickens make great squeaky toys" phase.

ETA: I meant to say, a guardian dog would be cheaper than a gun, too. Maybe not a BB gun, though.
But I can't do it! Same problem. No barn and I want my entire carport back.

LDi was supposed to win the lotto and take care of all these problems.

She's a slacker. Should we disown her?
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Horsie doesn't like donkeys. Plus he may not chase dogs. Do you like the quarter horse type?

He's cute, but...
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Thanks for the input guys!

Not putting back a one piece shower - wouldn't fit through the doors....putting in a pan and 3 walls then installing a pivot door. All picked out by my wife who is the boss!!!

I am missing what you are saying Doc about - you can change the amount of fall sometimes

Have 48X34 pan. The width is dead (you know what) 48" the depth is 32.75" so not really 34".

Stud to stud is also right on 48" so will be a tight fit but should be ok. The water lines coming up are in the way as shown. Stud to stud area has to be free of obstruction. The 2x4 frame on bottom is almost over a joist. I think it is 2 inches I did not measure while under there. From the water lines entering the bottom, I have 3 finger widths to the joist. So just a bit into the 2x4 frame.

I would have to rerun some of the tubing underneath and drill up through the other side of the 2x4....unless I slot the floor board and 2X4 with hole or jig saw....
Then loosing the hold clamps below and see if there is a that much movement...do not think so.

If you let the pipe going up to the shower head go more plumb you can see it would align into the base 2x4...where it should have been.

The one good thing is the floor board area is level at least with the 2 foot level I have....or at least level enough I doubt I could make it more level with a shower bed.
If this is the original plumbing then there is probably a good reason the pipes do not come up through the base 2*4. Would it be easier to raise the shower floor? notch the 2*4 and 90 the 2 water feed lines to get everything lined up proper.
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Good Morning everybody ! Had a Modm morning here - lol Mae the worse Charlie horse I have ever had at 4 a.m. , then Mr. Business decided he needed to have a potty break - came in and then thought he really needed a drink ad beat on his bowl with his size 12 paw - lol

Anyway ------------- Thanks to our very special and loving Mod. Mel - we are looking at 4 to 6 inches !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't blame me on this one. We were clear this week. It's supposed to snow today, but they keep pushing back when it will start coming down, which usually means the storm will miss us.

Anyway, seems like I remember CMC talking snow a day or two ago? Maybe it's that storm.

Or maybe you've been bad and this one has shown up just for you as a punishment. Yeah, that seems the most likely explanation to me.
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