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Donít know who you were for, B67, but I cheered for Houston. I imagine you know they won.
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TEDx Talks || Published on May 18, 2015

Ever wondered what your dog is thinking?
Does he really miss you when youíre gone? Finally, we have the answer, thanks to MRI technology.

How dogs love us | Dr. Gregory Berns | TEDxAtlanta
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I looked at your post and thought....ugh....an almost 20 min video. I donít like watching longer videos (itís an attention thing).

You recommended it, though, so.....

Anyway, very interesting; right up my alley.

But whereís the rest?? Kinda left me hanging there. Have you found any follow-up videos?
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I did find this....https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...gregory-berns/ Itís reading; something I do better (Reading is faster than talking, so it keeps my attention.)
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I looked at your post and thought....ugh....an almost 20 min video. I don’t like watching longer videos (it’s an attention thing).

You recommended it, though, so.....

Anyway, very interesting; right up my alley.

But where’s the rest?? Kinda left me hanging there. Have you found any follow-up videos?
^^ Glad you liked video and it was worth your most valuable time.

...I'm wearing sunglasses when I say, "I wouldn't lead you on a wild goose/chicken chase, in this thread".
- 67 fib/fib, with a straight poker face

BTW - former Amy would have been a good candidate, in the MRI experiment...being human smart & language intelligent / enough to read my brain in senior years, once retired and home with her non stop.

But she would not take a tread, from a stranger & she would listen to friends, only if her Dad was near by.
- she lived for one family, it was the world she created for herself

The TEDx speakers dog, liked treats handed out better, from a stranger / sounds like a lack of bonding, to me.
- had he been a real dog lover & expert trainer / his logic may have unfolded more

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How Dogs Tell Us What We Need to Know | Barbara Sherman | TEDxSandhillsCommunityCollege
Barbara shows us how to read the body language of our dogs so that we can anticipate and alleviate their anxiety.
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Mod MEL (aka M&M) - might be a good video on canine body language, to share with new comers to the forum.

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Kip would have been a wonderful candidate--he had the most amazing stare at me and be a statue stay...though, like you say, I never tried him out with another person giving the command.

Major drawback--he was phobic. I do not know if I could have gotten him into the MRI machine no matter what the command. He chose the dictates of the phobia over me when it came right down to it. I never was successful in training those fears out of him.

We got him as an eight month old; I speculate that his prior experiences set those phobias in stone for him.

And to this comment, B67 "Glad you liked video and it was worth your most valuable time.”
Yes, I am the most important person in the world.

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..........And to this comment, B67 "Glad you liked video and it was worth your most valuable time.”
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I did find this....https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...gregory-berns/ It’s reading; something I do better (Reading is faster than talking, so it keeps my attention.)
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Obviously dog brains are not the same as humans. One big difference is in the size. A dog brain is about the size of a lemon, at best, if it’s a big dog. There’s not the same real estate in there, so they can’t do some things we can do.

Probably the biggest area of difference is in language. You don’t need an MRI to know that dogs can’t speak to us, at least not with words. One outstanding question we are currently working on is trying to figure out what they actually understand about our speech.

We can teach them all sorts of tricks and tasks with verbal commands. But it’s unclear whether dogs understand that words are symbolic place holders for other things or, more likely, that dogs simply process human speech in a much more direct way. They are probably just linking sounds to particular actions without a deep understanding of the abstract, semantic quality.

There’s a couple of dogs out there who’ve been documented to have vocabularies of 1,000 words, but none of the dogs in our project came even close to that. We did a project where we taught them the names of two new toys—and it took forever! [Laughs]

Something that intrigues us pet owners is whether our animals feel “cupboard love” for us—or real love. Tell us about the maze experiment.

It’s related to getting food versus just praise.
With humans you can come up with similar analogies as to what motivates us to like another person. With dogs there’s always this overriding question: Are they just trying to scam us by acting cute?

In the experiment, we showed them an object that signaled they would get food, then another one signaling that their owner would pop into view and say, “Good girl!” There were a handful of dogs that preferred praise over food. There were also a couple of dogs at the other end of the spectrum. For them it really was all about the food! [Laughs] But the vast majority of dogs had equal responses to both food and praise.

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Thks MEL - good read.

Interesting in that the 20 dogs, in the full year MRI training, recognized only 2 toys by name....and the motivation was based on just treat training...the motivation is in question.

Former Amy would have been a natural, she knew hundreds of words / only trained with loving praise & kisses on her nose / hardly ever had to tell her a new name, more than once or twice & it went into her memory bank, for life.
- she knew the name of all her toys, stuffies and bones & balls by color (aka get orange ball)
- likely 30-40 objects could be picked out, by exact name
- this puppy came home with us at 9.5 weeks young
After 3 days, I remember telling Mrs. Beau. while I was sitting on the couch, with our little baby girl:

"This pup is really-really smart, she is starting to train me into what she wants...finding little ways to communicate with Dad (at 10 weeks old)...Our 1st girl was very smart, but this one is special, at such an early age.
I can't believe my eyes & the level of her wanting to please me & drawing comfort/love from that...it's just unreal".
- her motivation was never bought, with a treat
- only a family members nice voice &/or a loving hand touching her...all it ever took, with this one
I always said - she worked at being human / not dog...we bonded immediately, for the fabulous life by her design.

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Sorry to change the subject, but I can!

Sure wish TNFisher would come hunt my coyote with his camera.

Dang Coyote didn't get any more of my chickens, yet! But, I see it from time to time.

I think it might be scoping out goats???

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I noticed that my dogs who were raised from pups in my house have had a much better vocabulary...they are more attuned to speech. The couple I have gotten as older dogs have been just as smart and just as attentive--but responded much better to hand signals than to word commands.

Just tossing that bit into the ring for you folks to draw your own conclusions from.
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I noticed that my dogs who were raised from pups in my house have had a much better vocabulary...they are more attuned to speech. The couple I have gotten as older dogs have been just as smart and just as attentive--but responded much better to hand signals than to word commands.

Just tossing that bit into the ring for you folks to draw your own conclusions from.
MEL - sometimes you got to feed us more conclusions......I've never gotten an older dog.
- so I'm still wondering why "much better to hand signals than to word commands"...on your older dogs
- unless the original owners of the puppies, didn't talk much to their pets
- many people talk little to their pets, and never realize their true potential

At 16 y/o one of our best friends borrowed a hunting dog / best rabbit dog within 100 miles.
- he flushed out 5 cottontails bunnies, and my sharp aim got 2
- at first the dog was nothing special and was purchased from a German
- the new owner thought, maybe English is new to him
- so he had to teach himself some basic German commands before making the dog bilingual

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This thread is starting to bore me.

Sure wish this site had an interactive game room so I could play Spades with a real person without being yelled at for playing too slow. Hence! I'm back, here! Some rude people just berated me for having satellite and playing too slow, on Pogo!

There is just less and less patience in this world.

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This thread is starting to bore me.

Sure wish this site had an interactive game room so I could play Spades with a real person without being yelled at for playing too slow. Hence! I'm back, here! Some rude people just berated me for having satellite and playing too slow, on Pogo!

There is just less and less patience in this world.

SP - Why the heck would I want to play SLOW Spades here, I got a life too (LOL)...ya know, hard to believe.
- plus my satellite speed, will not be any better

If your bored, maybe you need constantly entertained / talk about maintenance...
Girl - go out and clean poop, out of the chicken coop / take your wondering mind, off thinks.
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SP, you CANíT get bored. Weíre only on post #2540....

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BTW... See what you can do as a (doberless) mod to help jump start my thread on Doberman puppy biting.

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BTW... See what you can do as a (doberless) mod to help jump start my thread on Doberman puppy biting.

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John/STJ!/BJ etc....
MEL - MOD needed on Isle #6 cleanup...

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SP - New Goal..."you started something, with no ending".
- the long running Political thread, is on post #6643 / only 4104 more posts, to take the lead...only at 38% so far.

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Pithy sayings from the latest catalog:

1. I just did a weekís worth of cardio after walking into a spiderweb.

2. Iím pretty sure Iím going to be one of those senior citizens who bites everyone.

3. I would like to thank my middle finger for always sticking up for me when I need it.

4. Iím going to stop asking ďHow dumb can you get?Ē People seem to be taking it as a challenge.

5. You know that little thing inside your head which keeps you from saying things you shouldnít? Yeah, I donít have one of those.

6. No need to repeat yourself. I ignored you just fine the first time.

7. I saw people through a window today. Thatís enough social interaction.

8. Sorry Iím late. I didnít want to come.

9. Tomorrow--a mythical land where I get all my stuff done.


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3. I would like to thank my middle finger for always sticking up for me when I need it.

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^^ Good one.

Here is another Quote:
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Don’t know who you were for, B67, but I cheered for Houston. I imagine you know they won.
^^ Missed answering this one.

Obviously we wanted the Toronto Blue Jays to get to the playoffs, but with player age & dead bats, playing 500 ball was a stretch of optimism - son's business had season tickets to the games, and we never even went.

Mrs. Beau. has a strong brain for the game technically & she picked the Huston Astros as the best team in baseball, this year / before the All Star half way period.
- I was rooting for Cleveland Indians, early in the year / been to their ball park, for a game once, great fun
- a 22 game win streak, meant they had a chance to take it all
So early on - the Mrs picked the Astros and B67 picked the Indians

When my Cleveland team got outed by the NYY, I only liked them largely because I wanted to see rookie 6'7" Aaron Judge play / a 52 home run record holder, in his first year...also a decent & humble player.

But once Huston was in the World Series finals with LA Dodgers:
- Mrs. still wanted the Astros while I slightly favored the Dodgers...I still believe the Dodgers had more depth in their pitchers bull pen, but their Manager made several poor pitching decisions
- game7 should have never been started with a pitcher that in game2 only went 1-2/3 innings...and he blew game7 wide open for the Astros in the 2nd inning again...it was like watching "T" ball...LOL
^^ In the end, I sort of liked the players on both teams.

------------Kelly & (Amy - RIP @ 11.7 y/o)

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SP - Why the heck would I want to play SLOW Spades here, I got a life too (LOL)...ya know, hard to believe.
- plus my satellite speed, will not be any better

If your bored, maybe you need constantly entertained / talk about maintenance...
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You're driving me Bat S..t.


BTW... See what you can do as a (doberless) mod to help jump start my thread on Doberman puppy biting.

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John/STJ!/BJ etc....
That is what she does, BJ!

She drives us all "Bat S..t.", so she can study us...

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SP - New Goal..."you started something, with no ending".
- the long running Political thread, is on post #6643 / only 4104 more posts, to take the lead...only at 38% so far.

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I don't think I have ever read anything on the politics thread. I don't do politics, just ask my supervisor. I make her work.

Politics is such a downer subject for me. It brings out the ugly side of people.

So, if The Brod doesn't ban me, then I will stay... SpocksDad ain't gonna like it, though.

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Pithy sayings from the latest catalog:

1. I just did a weekís worth of cardio after walking into a spiderweb.

2. Iím pretty sure Iím going to be one of those senior citizens who bites everyone.

3. I would like to thank my middle finger for always sticking up for me when I need it.

4. Iím going to stop asking ďHow dumb can you get?Ē People seem to be taking it as a challenge.

5. You know that little thing inside your head which keeps you from saying things you shouldnít? Yeah, I donít have one of those.

6. No need to repeat yourself. I ignored you just fine the first time.

7. I saw people through a window today. Thatís enough social interaction.

8. Sorry Iím late. I didnít want to come.

9. Tomorrow--a mythical land where I get all my stuff done.


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I don't think I have ever read anything on the politics thread. I don't do politics, just ask my supervisor. I make her work.

Politics is such a downer subject for me. It brings out the ugly side of people.

So, if The Brod doesn't ban me, then I will stay... SpocksDad ain't gonna like it, though.

I hate Canadian Politics because our Leaders are all a bunch of paid for hacks / implementing Socialism & the elite World Order doctrine...our voting people, are largely brain-washed sheep.
- the USA is more corrupt, but the leadership race every 4 years interests & entertains me
- I've picked the presidential winners, 4x's straight
- even picked Trump, when he was in the starting field of 17 republicans
- hate Hillary & the Clinton machine corruption, with a vengeance

^^ My knowledge of politics, now defines me some / I like to pass on my individual opinions & views, to our son.
- but his positions, are his very own...I still like to influence some, when I can
We have all become Tax Slaves - the more I learn, the clearer the overall picture gets...not a pretty outlook.
- maybe the Donald, can stop a bit of the States carnage of change...otherwise, the future looks less bright

------------Kelly & (Amy - RIP @ 11.7 y/o)

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