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|06-24-2010 05:19 PM|
"WE ARE IN NEED OF DONATIONS SO WE CAN GET OUR SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAM STARTED OUT HERE IN RANDOLPH COUNTY SO PLEASE HELP BY SENDING DONATIONS TO..."
"Adopters will have an application to fill out. And once you are choosen to be the new parent of your new pet, you will have an adoption aggreement contract to fill out and sign. We will also do home checks for are adopted pets and foster pets. We educate people how important it is to spay/neuter their pets."
And, FWIW: Winchester News-Gazette: Serving Winchester, Indiana > News > AFSPCA rescues the forlorn
Before I get flamed, I need to ask, has anyone contacted the closest Doberman rescue to ask them to look into the situation with the fawn and blue Dobes? Has anyone contacted Ms. Moland to educate her about dilute Dobes? I'm in Texas. Is there anyone in or close to Indiana who's willing to make inquiries?
From the DPCA/Rescue page:
Southwest Ohio Doberman Rescue
Southwest Doberman Rescue Home
Hand Me Down Dobes
Hand Me Down Dobes, Inc.
>>I'm not necessarily defending how this person runs their "rescue".<< I'm essentially playing devil's advocate to show that there are ethical and responsible rescuers who do things a little differently for various reasons. I also want to avoid us working ourselves up into needless outrage when just by contacting Ms. Moland, or the Ohio Dobe rescues, and asking a few questions we could protect these Dobes from possible exploitation and gain an ally and an advocate for Dobes-in-need. Just my humble opinion and thanks for reading it.
|06-24-2010 12:45 PM|
$300 seems terribly steep for unaltered puppies, here in Austin you can have a dog altered for $45-55 at the low-cost clinic or even for FREE if you are willing to get up at 4am and queue up outside the free mobile clinic. |
And regardless of whether or not you are a 501(c) - I think it's fine to function as a rescue outside that classification - it's just unethical to adopt unaltered dogs without at least requiring a spay/neuter contract with a deposit.
I wonder what this person's excuse is for "adopting" unaltered puppies.. :rolleyes:
|06-24-2010 10:16 AM|
Originally Posted by KatiePA View Post
Some independent rescuers can't afford the filing and attorney's fees to organize themselves as a "501(c)" (an American tax-exempt, nonprofit corporation or association). Please see: 501(c) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for general information.
So, some rescue groups/animal shelters incorporate their operations as for-profit businesses and "sell" their animals for as much as they can get (and collect tax on those sales). Any "profits" earned on one sale are used to offset "losses" arising from the care of sicker animals. I knew a lady who bought horses at slaughter auctions, rehabbed them, sold them to responsible people, and used any "profits" to buy more horses away from the meat packers. I have no complaints about her methods.
What does any of this have to do with the woman advertising "rare" and desirable blue & fawn Dobes? My suggestion is to contact the DPCA-affiliated Dobe rescue closest to the advertiser and ask them to find out what's going on with these Dobes. Maybe the advertiser simply doesn't know about all the issues surrounding the dilutes. Perhaps she just needs to be informed that if she does not ensure these Dobes are altered prior to placement, she is actually putting them in jeopardy by advertising them as "rare" and desirable in that they are likely to end up w/BYBs or puppymillers who will never comply with spay-neuter agreements and will disappear after the "adoptions".
Just a few random thoughts I hope you find useful and thanks for reading them.
|06-24-2010 07:04 AM|
I only looked at the first link, but can you alter at 12 weeks? Maybe that's why it doesn't say it? I'm not saying this isn't sketchy, but that was the first thing that popped into my head. |
I got Donko from a rescue at 8 weeks. I had to sign a neuter contract.
|06-23-2010 05:44 PM|
|greenkouki||Please email petfinder and report those ads! There was another thread like this one a while back where a commercial kennel was advertising puppies for sale on petfinder! It makes me sick- ads like that are the reason REAL rescue dogs are on petfinder.|
|06-23-2010 05:40 PM|
Aside from the obvious sale there, which is awful, in the past I have sent out angry emails before to local shelters that advertised dilute Dobermans as rare. |
I still have the email in my sent box, I was clearly irritated at the time, I'm not going to post the whole thing but my last sentence was "I would think a rescue organization would know better than to glorify a color associated with skin problems."
They changed it pretty quickly
|06-23-2010 02:55 PM|
This is just heartbreaking. |
That fawn Dobe looks like she's being kept in a dingy basement and the black one seems pretty underweight - I don't like seeing hip bones on dogs!
|06-23-2010 10:38 AM|
Originally Posted by michellejy View Post
|06-23-2010 10:00 AM|
I looked at the rescue's website, and they said they don't have a spay/neuter program, so I'd guess the animals they rescue aren't altered and won't be. |
I found a terms of service for using Petfinder before (I looked it up when I reported the "rescue" that was advertising purebred, full registration Dobes as a courtesy post), but I can't find it again. I'm wondering if it is against the terms of service to advertise dogs and cats that aren't altered.
|06-23-2010 08:51 AM|
Yes, I thought the same thing when I saw them. I also noticed that they did not check "this animal has been altered" for their posting. This "rescue" seems sketchy.
|06-23-2010 08:38 AM|
"rare" fawn doberman for adoption!
Is it just me or does it seem like they are selling these dogs and not trying to adopt them. It seems these "Rare Color" doberman puppies are selling for more than any of their other adoptable dogs.
Adoptable Doberman Pinscher: Fawn--Rare: Petfinder
Adoptable Doberman Pinscher: BABY BLUE: Petfinder
At this one guy looks awfully thin!
Adoptable Doberman Pinscher: Blue: Petfinder