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06-04-2020 02:52 PM
dobebug
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Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
If it is the one I'm thinking of, "Boy's Life" is the official scouting magazine, first published as "Barton's Boy's Life" in March, 1911, bought by the BSA in January, 1912. My brother collects them.

I liked them too. Girl's publications were always too full of sewing and cooking tips back then; later they came with the newest hairstyles and directions about how to apply makeup. Boring. e.e

Yet more evidence of shared genetic material between us.
Bwahahahaha... You're right! And I think that it might have been the "Barton" publication--it's a wonder I remember the actual name of the publication at all. Geeze--don't tell your brother I had three years of pretty pristine copies--if your brother is like most of the ephemera collectors they lust after things like that.

Yeah, my choice of reading matter to some degree explains my inability shop for clothes without 'a little help from my friends." But I'm right at home in a hardware store. Beau will appreciate this--about 6 months ago I was in alittle neighborhood Ace hardware and was picking our fastenings from their well labled bins--a guy came over and asked if I needed help--told him no. Just needed an assortment of stainless steel fasteners and continued to pick out stuff--labeled the bag I was putting them in and the price. When I got to the register the guy said--"You want a job?" Seems that they have a hard time finding people who actually like working in hardware stores. I laughed and told him was trying to retire from a job that I was still working at only one day a week. He sighed heavily and said that it wasn't every day you found someone wandering around the store who knew the difference between fasteners.

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Isn't it amazing? Maybe more of our kids' books should have that kind of message, too, she said sourly.
In the midst of the ongoing destructive riots I was discussing this with my next door neighbor who is a middle school teacher when he's not home pulling weeds in his front yard because the schools are presently closed. We agreed that a little more respect for family, powers that be and fewer things for everyone might improve the whole mindset that has people out destroying their own neighborhoods when these large destructive groups gather and it takes so little time for them to erupt, now nation wide into this senseless violent destruction that takes the place of point making peaceful marches.

ABTLH
06-04-2020 02:40 PM
alan j.
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Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
Isn't it amazing? Maybe more of our kids' books should have that kind of message, too, she said sourly.
Have you ever looked at some school test question for student around the turn of the last century. The test given to 8th graders had many questions beyond my comprehension. We have had quite a decline since that era.


8th GRADE FINAL EXAM

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no Modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb. Give Principal Parts of. lie, lay and run
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft deep, 10 feet long and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1050lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per meter?
8 Find bank discount on $300 for! 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

U. S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U. S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of Americaby Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, sub vocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u! '.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane,
fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall & Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europeand give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coastcolder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.
06-04-2020 02:34 PM
ECIN she said sourly.

WOW ! SP - I think Ma is getting ready to send you to the woodshed --------------------- Again LOL

BTW- SP = You have them dishes washed yet ??????????????????

What I don't understand is about the portable dish washer ! Isn't Denny a portable dish washer ?
06-04-2020 02:31 PM
alan j.
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Originally Posted by StrykersPerson View Post
Off to wash dishes, dammit.

Kept woman is for the birds!

My rhetorical answer when I got home from work was, "I just got home and I ain't doing $hit right now!"

I am out of excuses!

Thanks a lot AJ!

You ruined my pity party!

You must understand that in my fantasy world the kept woman would be only upset with the non-verbal dish washer not herself . You have so much to learn
06-04-2020 01:19 PM
melbrod
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Originally Posted by StrykersPerson View Post
Are you pumping out some psychological crap on us?

Whatever you said, I didn't do it!

Isn't it amazing? Maybe more of our kids' books should have that kind of message, too, she said sourly.
06-04-2020 01:18 PM
melbrod
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Originally Posted by dobebug View Post
LOL, Mel,
....The best thing that I found in those boxes of books was a stack of about 3 years of an English publication called "Boys Life"--I found it fascinating ( can't imagine what "Girls Life" if there was such a thing was like) But those things had all kinds of things that boys could learn to do--like repairing this and that and planting gardens and building your own trellises to let peas and runner beans climb on. There were also some fairly icky pictures of how to dissect a frog. My grandmother promptly taught me how to make chocolate chip cookies in an attempt to get me out of those books.

That's enough of my mispent childhood for any one day and the puppy wants out.

ABTLH
If it is the one I'm thinking of, "Boy's Life" is the official scouting magazine, first published as "Barton's Boy's Life" in March, 1911, bought by the BSA in January, 1912. My brother collects them.

I liked them too. Girl's publications were always too full of sewing and cooking tips back then; later they came with the newest hairstyles and directions about how to apply makeup. Boring. e.e

Yet more evidence of shared genetic material between us.
06-04-2020 01:05 PM
StrykersPerson
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Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
Well, I looked up "migratory iris" so I could make a clever comment of some sort.

It is apparently a well-known phenomena LOL

Dialogue on Botany for Use of Young Persons
Explaining the Structure of Plants and Progress of Vegetation

Maria Edgeworth 1819

Dialogue #9

p 63

"There is a species of iris, which, from a similar cause, appears to move, and is therefore called the migratory iris : and some plants, whose stem dies after the first or second year, but whose creeping roots survive, produce a new stem the following year, at some distance from which the former grew..."



It actually looks like a sorta interesting book, in a dated and historical context. Children's "textbooks" sure were different back then.

https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

Page 1

"Fanny, Emma and Cecil were three very happy children; happy, because obedient and industrious. They had various employments, some serious, some amusing; but they were never without occupation, their minds were never idle and therefore they enjoyed their sports.
Their mother and their aunt were so kind as to be interested in all that gave them pleasure and took pleasure themselves in watching the progress of their understandings.
Miss Mary Percival, their aunt, loved them, because they had good hearts; and delighted to instruct them, because they were anxious to acquire knowledge....."
Are you pumping out some psychological crap on us?

Whatever you said, I didn't do it!

06-04-2020 01:00 PM
dobebug
Quote:
Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
Well, I looked up "migratory iris" so I could make a clever comment of some sort.

It is apparently a well-known phenomena LOL

Dialogue on Botany for Use of Young Persons
Explaining the Structure of Plants and Progress of Vegetation

Maria Edgeworth 1819

Dialogue #9

p 63

"There is a species of iris, which, from a similar cause, appears to move, and is therefore called the migratory iris : and some plants, whose stem dies after the first or second year, but whose creeping roots survive, produce a new stem the following year, at some distance from which the former grew..."



It actually looks like a sorta interesting book, in a dated and historical context. Children's "textbooks" sure were different back then.

https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

Page 1

"Fanny, Emma and Cecil were three very happy children; happy, because obedient and industrious. They had various employments, some serious, some amusing; but they were never without occupation, their minds were never idle and therefore they enjoyed their sports.
Their mother and their aunt were so kind as to be interested in all that gave them pleasure and took pleasure themselves in watching the progress of their understandings.
Miss Mary Percival, their aunt, loved them, because they had good hearts; and delighted to instruct them, because they were anxious to acquire knowledge....."
LOL, Mel,

I was just about to write more about the wandering iris in my front bed--I'll be willing to bet that Japanese iris fall into this category. I was weeding that section of the big iris/day lily, oriental section lily a couple of days ago--and with the mostly grass I was removing where the Japanese iris is now when I pulled up some of the grass fairly close it I accidentally pulled up a clump of grass and a short length of new root (it's actually a rhizome but it doesn't look the the rhizome of a tall bearded type.--instead of being about half exposed which seems to be the favored position for the tall bearded plants The ones for the Japanese iris runs just barely under the dirt surface. Eventually I pulled up another short section--both of them had growth buds on their upper surface so I transplanted them to a small container and if they survive the upheaval and transfer I'll find a better place to plant them--
the survivors look a lot like they were trying to escape from the flower bed intirely and are now at the edge of the paved walk.

I prefer to think of them as wandering iris rather than migratory iris.

And about childrens books and childrens literature--I was present at a clean out of an unused except for storage a small shed (behind the chicken coop that my grandmother and her next door neighbor shared)--it had boxes of books and I'm sure my grandmother was less than thrilled when I wanted to inherit all of the many boxes of books. (As it was, she made me stack them neatly on the back/back porch (in South Dakota most of the older houses had a storage area that opened into the kitchen--specialty cooking equipment and large quantity stuff (like 25 pound bags of flour or oatmeal) that in turn opened into sort of a mud room (wet coats, mud soaked boots and some outdoor equipment like scythes, clilppers, trowels and a variety of shovels were kept there and finally the last room that opened from the mud room and finally to the outside--that room was screened in the summer and had heavy plastic tacked to the outside of the screens during the winter and benches against the walls that didn't have doors. I spent most of the summer pouring through the books and bugging my poor grandfather to explain a lot of why this and why that. What was noticeably similar in all of them is they all contained some sort of moral message of cautionary discussion of how bad children would be corrected.

The one good thing about it was it prompted my grandfather to take me to the town library practically every day so he didn't have to try to explain how times change and not everyone believes in a wrathful god who will punish you for minor lapses of behavior.

The best thing that I found in those boxes of books was a stack of about 3 years of an English publication called "Boys Life"--I found it fascinating ( can't imagine what "Girls Life" if there was such a thing was like) But those things had all kinds of things that boys could learn to do--like repairing this and that and planting gardens and building your own trellises to let peas and runner beans climb on. There were also some fairly icky pictures of how to dissect a frog. My grandmother promptly taught me how to make chocolate chip cookies in an attempt to get me out of those books.

That's enough of my mispent childhood for any one day and the puppy wants out.

ABTLH
06-04-2020 12:36 PM
StrykersPerson Off to wash dishes, dammit.

Kept woman is for the birds!

My rhetorical answer when I got home from work was, "I just got home and I ain't doing $hit right now!"

I am out of excuses!

Thanks a lot AJ!

You ruined my pity party!

06-04-2020 11:53 AM
Beaumont67
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Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
Well, I looked up "migratory iris" so I could make a clever comment of some sort.

It is apparently a well-known phenomena LOL


Dialogue #9
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p 63

"There is a species of iris, which, from a similar cause, appears to move, and is therefore called the migratory iris : and some plants, whose stem dies after the first or second year, but whose creeping roots survive, produce a new stem the following year, at some distance from which the former grew..."

Beau just blames the Moving Plant Syndrome - on Squirrels burying & hiding nuts,
and sometimes a plant gets mixed up in a new dig.
- proving once again, my SMRT's & well rounded-ness
...regardless of Topic or Intellectual depth he knows a little, about everything
06-04-2020 11:40 AM
melbrod
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Originally Posted by dobebug View Post
Irises, when they don't like where you put them simply pick up their skirts and move themselves. I know where I planted the three Japanese irises--and even the first year when all three were still present and accounted for they came up and bloomed in an entirely different place. Now that only the very dark blue one seems to have survived it is at least a foot and a half from where it was originally planted.

One of life's little mysteries I guess.

ABTLH
Well, I looked up "migratory iris" so I could make a clever comment of some sort.

It is apparently a well-known phenomena LOL

Dialogue on Botany for Use of Young Persons
Explaining the Structure of Plants and Progress of Vegetation

Maria Edgeworth 1819

Dialogue #9

p 63

"There is a species of iris, which, from a similar cause, appears to move, and is therefore called the migratory iris : and some plants, whose stem dies after the first or second year, but whose creeping roots survive, produce a new stem the following year, at some distance from which the former grew..."



It actually looks like a sorta interesting book, in a dated and historical context. Children's "textbooks" sure were different back then.

https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

Page 1

"Fanny, Emma and Cecil were three very happy children; happy, because obedient and industrious. They had various employments, some serious, some amusing; but they were never without occupation, their minds were never idle and therefore they enjoyed their sports.
Their mother and their aunt were so kind as to be interested in all that gave them pleasure and took pleasure themselves in watching the progress of their understandings.
Miss Mary Percival, their aunt, loved them, because they had good hearts; and delighted to instruct them, because they were anxious to acquire knowledge....."
06-04-2020 11:28 AM
StrykersPerson
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Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
Tonight 8:40 PM, the most recent launch of Starlink satellites should go overhead here. They are lit by reflected sunlight, so this one right after sunset should be really visible.

Checkout the map for 4 June, 2020

https://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=25544#
That's great Ma!

Storms are predicted to roll in here tonight, doubt I will be able to see anything.
06-04-2020 11:16 AM
melbrod Tonight 8:40 PM, the most recent launch of Starlink satellites should go overhead here. They are lit by reflected sunlight, so this one right after sunset should be really visible.

Checkout the map for 4 June, 2020

https://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=25544#
06-04-2020 11:12 AM
StrykersPerson I've got to get my dogs to the vet!

I really need my unemployment check!

Everyone is overdue on shots and that includes ME!

Pepper really needs a check up!

She's never gone on a ride with me, so loading her up is going to be a challenge based on getting her into the bathtub.

OMG!

My preferred vet is expensive.
06-04-2020 11:02 AM
dobebug
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Originally Posted by melbrod View Post
Well, it wasn't planted where I thought it was, and it did turn out to be interesting. It looks sorta like an unfolded sheet.




FLOPSY novelty iris
Irises, when they don't like where you put them simply pick up their skirts and move themselves. I know where I planted the three Japanese irises--and even the first year when all three were still present and accounted for they came up and bloomed in an entirely different place. Now that only the very dark blue one seems to have survived it is at least a foot and a half from where it was originally planted.

One of life's little mysteries I guess.

ABTLH
06-04-2020 11:01 AM
melbrod And a thought that might explain our discrepancy in opinions...Bug, are you talking a portable dishwasher (they're as big as an ordinary dishwasher and roll around to get near to a sink hookup) or a countertop (which is small and sits...on the countertop)?
06-04-2020 10:55 AM
melbrod In that house where we had the portable, we did end up installing a built-in dishwasher. We had to move a cabinet down to where the portable sat to make room by the sink, and get a new countertop. The countertop was pre-constructed into an L shape (formica--we're talking 70's housing), and aside from the fact that the corner of the room where it went wasn't square it was fairly easy to fit in. Just a tiny bit more of a gap along the rim of the backsplash in one area, but a little caulk worked wonders. It was an older home, and not super well built anywhere, so that was OK--and considerably better than having to use the portable.
06-04-2020 10:46 AM
LadyDi Sending rain your way AJ !!!
06-04-2020 10:46 AM
StrykersPerson I asked Mister last night can we put a dishwasher in where you propose it should be without having to tear the counter off? He said yes it can be done, but.

I am willing to lose the storage below.

I will buy the damn thing.
06-04-2020 10:46 AM
LadyDi Yup match works great on mystery desk drawer!!!
06-04-2020 10:43 AM
dobebug
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Originally Posted by LadyDi View Post
Question.
My new desk.
Top left drawer keeps rolling open. I did’t even touch it!
How do I fix this.....
One of the 'new' drawers in the food prep area (second drawer down on the right side does that--drives me crazy.) Those easy slide mechanisms sometimes don't operate well enough to actually retain a pushed in drawn--then they slide slowly out--acting like the 'ghost in the machine'.

I noticed last weekend that this was obviously driving someone else crazy because there was a paper match bent in half and the drawer was closed on it--that works, almost no cost for that fix.

ABTLH

PS They decided to do a huge remodal in the clinic started in March of last year and for most of the year the clinic was in disarray--and since the remodel various of the builders have been in fixing things where just 'not quite right' but were noticeably wrong'!
06-04-2020 10:41 AM
StrykersPerson I don't know Aunt B.

I had one and had positive results with it. I also regret leaving it behind when I moved to OK. I will give you this. My well water is going to mess it up!

06-04-2020 10:37 AM
melbrod The one I had a long time ago was OK--but I'm thinking that its competition at the time wasn't nearly what dishwashers are like today. It was probably made in the early 70's.
06-04-2020 10:29 AM
dobebug
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Originally Posted by StrykersPerson View Post
I just went shopping for portable dishwashers and the prices went up?

Talk about hitting below the belt!
Yeah, I know--I forgot to mention that in my recent rave about how totally useless portable dishwashers are!!!!

ABTLH
06-04-2020 10:21 AM
dobebug
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Originally Posted by StrykersPerson View Post
Everybody needs to win the Powerball!

It sucks looking for a job, putting together a resume sucks, Zoom interviews suck! Everything thing sucks!

And, so does washing dishes. I am on the verge of buying a portable dishwasher even if my unemployment hasn't got here yet.

Let's get through this together.

We can do this!
DON'T DO IT, DENNY!!!!! (Buy a portable dish.washer. I have and cotinue to have experience with a portable dishwaser at the clinic and if I ever find out whose bright idea this was I intend to send them to Mel's woodshed.

First of all they are small and don't do many dishes and it's hard to arrange stuff in them so that everything gets clean. Most of the staff doesn't know how to do this so I can count on half of the food dishes actually being clean (this is only used for clinic animal dishes and I think the staff who has always gripped about the dishes left in the lunchroom sink thought that if there was a dishwasher it could do the dishes.) Yeah, sure! the only place they could find to put it was to set it up in A ward (the ward for surgery patients--half a clinic away from the lunch room). i'm unlucky enough to only have to deal with the stupid dishwasher on Sundays and Holidays--but the day before people haven't got the hang of using it--so they don't rinse
dishes well enough and don't arrange them well enough and they don't get clean. And they leave the sink in A ward full of not rinsed, not clean, dirty dishes and empty cans and baby food jars, which cant be washed in the dishwasher anyway because they have labels that come off and clog the works.

Basically--they take up space, involved messy water lines which usually tie up the sink they are adjacent to and are picky, touchy and I, at least can do dishes by hand in 1/4 of the time it takes to prep them for the dishwasher and end up drying them by hand because unless the door to the dishwasher got cracked when all the cycles were over, you end up with a bunch (maybe) clean dishes that still need to be dried.

BAH HUMBUG I say.

ABTLH
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