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07-27-2019 11:19 AM
dobebug Dear Kenny,

Thanks for the vote of confidence but "young chick?"

<SNORT>

But you're my favorite nephew even if you do exaggerate some...

ABTLH
07-26-2019 01:04 PM
ECIN Great post Aunt B . !

You are a book of knowledge for a young chick 🐥!

Thanks even though we have Black and Tans , that was a very interesting read

Your favorite nephew

Doc
07-26-2019 10:48 AM
dobebug
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Hello all
After losing our dobi Max to pancreatic cancer. We have finally found a new family member he is a blue dobi, and yes I know all the downfalls of having a blue, fur loss, skin problems. So my question is what steps should I take in addition to thyroid check
What is the best food and supplements to give him?
I always feed pro-plan-sensitive skin and stomach salmon to Max
Hi rowledge2,

Congratulate on your new puppy--and my condolences on your loss of Max (pancreatic cancer is a hard way to go...)

I don't do a thyroid check until the dog is around 2 years (I might do it earlier if there are signs of thyroid related hair loss, weight gain etc). And I'll tell you the same thing I've been saying for years--the dilutes (fawn and blue) certainly can have hair loss due to CDA but this does not necessarily mean you'll have skin problems too. Dobe puppies tend to have bouts of staph (will hair loss) because of immature immune systems--and mostly they grow out of things like that. My fawn dog actually had fewer skin problems than my black dogs but when I did see signs of possible staph infections I took him in to the vet rather faster than I did for the black dogs.

I give fish oil and Vitamin E but I don't start that until the puppy is at least 6 months old. I have given my fawn dog a minimal dose of melatonin--3 mg twice a day--and do I think it helped? Who knows--I have a fawn dog who is now 13 years and 8 months and who has a full coat--yes, he's on thyroid meds and has been since he was around eight years. If you give melatonin--be sure you read the label--a lot of the formulations now contain xylitol--a sugar which can be deadly in small quantities for dogs--several years ago I picked up a new bottle and was reading the label and to my horror discovered that the stuff contained xylitol. And if you are going to give more than 3 mg twice a day I'd be talking to a vet about appropriate maximum dosage (I've also noticed that some of melatonin is as high as 12 mg per pill in some brands.

ProPlan Focus is my fall back food and my fawn boy was weaned on it so he's eaten the Sensitive Skin and Stomach all his life (I think he was on it through all of the name changes--from ProPlan Salmon and Rice, to ProPlan Sensitive Skin and Stomach to the recent change adding Focus as the ProPlan line if falls in. I've fed the Chicken formula and the turkey formula when it was briefly available in the US (I think it's only in Canada again). I don't feed the ProPlan Savor--which is a very similar formula as the Focus but has the addition of the shredded bits--which are flavored soy. I think the Focus contains a little more animal protein.

As my fawn dog got older I added Glucosamine + MSM--I buy it at Costco--the people version which is less expensive to the newly added DOG version. And when he was around 3 years old he started being allergic t9o something that is probably a pollen shedder--and from sometime in April through the summer he gets a minimal dose (25 mg twice a day) of Diphenlhydamine (that's the generic for Benedryl). That's another I get from Costco.

Hmmm--I also get both the fish oil and the Vitamin E from Costco--make sure you aren't buying anything in fish oil that has an enteric coating as that doesn't dissolve in the canines shorter GI tract--but I don't think dogs care if their burps taste fishy. And I used to buy melatonin from Costco but now I have to hit the pharmacies and read the contents carefully and the 3 mg tablets are getting harder to find.

Here's my final not on dilute dogs (if you aren't sick to death of reading this)--ti a very large degree what you get is determined genetically. I had seen enough of my breeders fawn dogs in particular who retained good or at least better than average coats to expect I wasn't going to be dealing with a bald dog--but I was prepared to do so if that's what I got.

It wasn't my final note--treat that blue (or fawn) coat with care--the individual hairs are more fragile than black or red hairs--the way the melanin is contained in the hair shaft make them likely to break more easily--so don't be rubbing their hair against the lay of the coat especially when wet and don't let other people do it.

Good luck...

dobebug
07-26-2019 10:47 AM
MeadowCat There isn't a food that is going to prevent CDA, if that's what you're asking? I personally feed Proplan SSS, and would recommend the same.

Dobebug has a fawn male that is in his early teens, with a good coat. Hopefully she'll pop in, but she also feeds Proplan, and I believe only supplements with fish oil. Retaining a good coat in a dilute is pretty much genetic, as far as I understand.

Is your dog a pup? I would not recommend adding any supplements without consulting your vet.
07-26-2019 08:34 AM
rowledge2
food for blue dobis

Hello all
After losing our dobi Max to pancreatic cancer. We have finally found a new family member he is a blue dobi, and yes I know all the downfalls of having a blue, fur loss, skin problems. So my question is what steps should I take in addition to thyroid check
What is the best food and supplements to give him?
I always feed pro-plan-sensitive skin and stomach salmon to Max

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