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04-17-2019 11:50 AM
VZ-Doberman LOL They'll know I'm back when I piss off some of them.
04-17-2019 11:41 AM
MeadowCat
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Yep!!!!
So great to see you around! Start an "I'm back" thread so we can all check in with you!
04-17-2019 11:35 AM
VZ-Doberman Yep!!!!
04-17-2019 11:29 AM
MeadowCat
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Get him to a Doberman rescue. Here's reality for you....you bought a backyard breeder dog so getting back to the breeder for help is not the answer. Even IF the breeder took him back you can bet he'll sell him to any Tom, Dick or Harry who has the $$ to buy him. Not a good way to make sure he goes to a good home. A Doberman rescue has a better chance of doing that. In addition, you have a good chance of major vet bills ahead. Your dog has a greater chance of getting DCM than not. The odds of DCM are around 60%. Personally I think it runs higher. The testing is expensive and the maintenance drugs are expensive and that's if nothing else happens like thyroid, cancer, bloat, etc.. This is an expensive breed to own. JMO but it's time to think of what's best for your dog and not your feelings. It's a shame things happened the way they did but the dog comes first.......always the dog comes first.
VZ????? That you????
04-17-2019 11:19 AM
VZ-Doberman Get him to a Doberman rescue. Here's reality for you....you bought a backyard breeder dog so getting back to the breeder for help is not the answer. Even IF the breeder took him back you can bet he'll sell him to any Tom, Dick or Harry who has the $$ to buy him. Not a good way to make sure he goes to a good home. A Doberman rescue has a better chance of doing that. In addition, you have a good chance of major vet bills ahead. Your dog has a greater chance of getting DCM than not. The odds of DCM are around 60%. Personally I think it runs higher. The testing is expensive and the maintenance drugs are expensive and that's if nothing else happens like thyroid, cancer, bloat, etc.. This is an expensive breed to own. JMO but it's time to think of what's best for your dog and not your feelings. It's a shame things happened the way they did but the dog comes first.......always the dog comes first.
04-13-2019 09:58 AM
LadyDi To be a working dog at any level.......... your dog would need to be a good citizen thus well trained in all areas ...
Meanwhile I would seek part time work through janitorial services .....most take place at night .........cleaning bathrooms , malls, etc.
My husband did this during some rough times........but it paid the bills.
You could probably take your dog with you to work If get a night shift .
Also consider going to work for a dog training school......working with all the different dogs.....cleaning.....etc.

As far as the humping .....politely suggesting to you....increase daily training .I respectfully mention
this because as you might already know the child may have experienced a mental trauma that will stick .......mentally ......for the rest of the child’s life.
So look up some training techniques and work on this together to avoid another accident.
Wishing for the best ....
04-13-2019 09:42 AM
MeadowCat
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Thanks everyone. The last thing I want to do is give him to a shelter or a rescue. I love this dog and I'm not going to give up on him. He's mine and I'll do whatever it takes to keep him. Right now I'm not expecting to have enough money for a deposit and first months rent for my own place any time soon, because Iím trying to avoid racking up more interest and late fees. I don't have any family here who could help either.
I'm treating this as a real post for help. If it is, please seek out much more reasonable options. Stop paying a dog walker and look for the least expensive housing you can afford that allows your dog. See if you can stay with friends or family. If you want to keep your dog, do everything in your power to cut costs to do so. Are you eating ramen and beans and rice to cut your budget down? What other ways can you cut costs?

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Is it true that he needs to have a long list of qualifications to be a stud? As a beginner, how long does that take? How do I find people with a Doberman bitch in the area who want Doberman puppies. He's been humping everything in site including my guests, children, and a motorcycle. He actually humped the little boy so hard he got hurt and he humped the motorcycle so hard that it fell on him and injured his leg. I remember the sex drive I had as a teenage boy and I want him to have opportunities to relieve his urges in a healthy way that doesn't harm anybody or himself. Thereís no way Iím going to neuter him, I donít believe in that anymore.
Yes, he has no "qualifications" that would make him useful to the breed as a stud dog. Additionally, please put in the time and effort to train your dog. What you're describing is poor behavior. He does not need to have "opportunities" to do anything other than have better manners. If you cannot train and manage him, he needs to be neutered. Responsible owners train and manage their dogs to be good representations of the breed. An out of control humping machine reflects poorly on his owner and the breed as a whole.

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How can I find people and businesses that are interested in hiring a 6í2Ē security guard with a Doberman? Any other income producing ideas for me and him separately or together?

I appreciate all your help in advance and Iím sure Iíll find some way to repay you for any advice that can help us succeed at getting back on our feet.
This is completely unrealistic. While it's possible that YOU might find a job as a security guard with no training or skills (and that's not going to pay well), no one in their right mind is going to put an untrained dog (who, incidentally, has zero manners, apparently) in a position as a guard dog. That takes years of training, and dog that is in a role to be a true guard dog needs to have an absolutely rock solid temperament, seriously fantastic skills in obedience, as well as skills in protection work. That takes YEARS of work. Not to mention the potential legal liabilities of that kind of training. That's not something that's a "quick fix."

If you can figure out a way to make a budget and take care of your dog, that's wonderful, but you need to train and manage him appropriately, too.

Around here, we do have some resources for pet owners who have fallen on hard times - there are things like food banks for pets. If you are truly in dire shape, you might look into that kind of help. Or, it may be simply things like switching to a less expensive food, making a really tight budget, and really getting a handle on how you can make this work.

Please stop looking to your dog to fund anything.
04-13-2019 08:28 AM
greenkouki Here's the thing about stud fees, yes you can get a decent amount of money for the fee itself, but generally it is chump change to what goes into the dog to get said fee. The dog needs to be a finished akc champion or have trained and titled to a high level in an appropriate working sport ($2000 up to $10,000), you will need to complete full health testing on hips, eyes, elbows, liver, thyroid, echo/24 hour holter (At least another $1500), advertising fees in doberman specific magazines ($hundreds to thousands).

You can do all of this and people still will not use your stud dog because he's not one of the top dobermans. Some owners of champion males will offer their stud for free to a nice bitch just to get his name out there. The bottom line is breeding dogs should not be about money and you rarely make out ahead when you do it the right way. I strongly urge you not to use your dog in this way. If you're worried about him humping everything in sight, using him as a stud will likely make it worse. You need to give him a correction when he is doing that to people, especially children! I am sorry you've fallen on hard times, but your dog is not the answer to get out of the situation.

If you would like some suggestions on how to earn extra money maybe you could tell us a little more about yourself and we could make some suggestions.
04-13-2019 07:31 AM
Dfwcity Thanks everyone. The last thing I want to do is give him to a shelter or a rescue. I love this dog and I'm not going to give up on him. He's mine and I'll do whatever it takes to keep him. Right now I'm not expecting to have enough money for a deposit and first months rent for my own place any time soon, because I’m trying to avoid racking up more interest and late fees. I don't have any family here who could help either.

Is it true that he needs to have a long list of qualifications to be a stud? As a beginner, how long does that take? How do I find people with a Doberman bitch in the area who want Doberman puppies. He's been humping everything in site including my guests, children, and a motorcycle. He actually humped the little boy so hard he got hurt and he humped the motorcycle so hard that it fell on him and injured his leg. I remember the sex drive I had as a teenage boy and I want him to have opportunities to relieve his urges in a healthy way that doesn't harm anybody or himself. There’s no way I’m going to neuter him, I don’t believe in that anymore.

How can I find people and businesses that are interested in hiring a 6’2” security guard with a Doberman? Any other income producing ideas for me and him separately or together?

I appreciate all your help in advance and I’m sure I’ll find some way to repay you for any advice that can help us succeed at getting back on our feet.
04-10-2019 07:00 AM
Oldrednose Why not use the money you are giving the dog sitter,couple this with any rent you are paying already and find a home for both you and your charge.
If I had to live outside in a tent I wouldn't give up on my dogs.
04-10-2019 12:34 AM
4x4bike ped Honestly, this is the oddest post on DT that I have ever seen.

@Dfw..
Please find a way to safely and successfully re-home your boy.

John
Portland OR
04-09-2019 08:15 PM
Artemis Only jobs you could earn a living from with a dog would take a copious amount time to learn and train him for. It's more likely you could find a job that would let you take your dog with you but that doesn't mean he'd be the one doing the work. Yard work/landscaping is a good example, handyman-ing, fix-it guy etc.
04-09-2019 10:31 AM
MaryAndDobes Are you asking how to make extra money by offering your dog for stud? Or are you asking for suggestions on how to make extra money yourself to be able to keep him? FWIW, IMO, a dog is not responsible to earn his keep. You purchased him - it's up to you to take care of him, not the other way around.

I've been in Dobermans since 1983 and have never heard of the "Klaus" bloodline so I suspect you've got yourself a backyard bred Doberman who should not be bred even if he is a great pet. Papers don't make a dog breeding quality. The pedigree, his accomplishments/titles, his health testing, the accomplishments and health testing and longevity of his ancestors might. All of those things together, not just one or two.

I am sorry to hear of your circumstances. I agree with the others who are saying contact the breeder first, rescue second, if you have to. Personally, I'd be trying to strike a deal with family to stay with, if possible, while you get yourself back on your feet or a different situation with your housing - what you're paying for the room plus what you're paying for the dog sitter seems like it could go to a better situation where you both could stay. Take a good look at your other stuff, and sell whatever you can. It sucks that you owned your own business but it looks like you're going to have to work some other jobs for now. Good luck.
04-09-2019 09:07 AM
Gretchen_Red First contact your breeder, they should be willing to take him back if they are a good breeder. If not then find a Doberman rescue.

You could maybe do yard work on the side with him.
04-09-2019 08:22 AM
greenkouki Please surrender him to a rescue group if you can't afford to keep him any longer. I'm Sorry.
04-09-2019 07:57 AM
spocksdad
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Please reach out to your breeder if you cannot keep him...if they're crap and won't help you, then please find a rescue.
Sorry to hear about your situation:

Doberman Rescue of North Texas in Grand Praire:
Welcome
04-09-2019 07:51 AM
alaraa Sorry to hear of your situation. I wouldn't go to a shelter if at all possible and my experience with rescues is not very good, but that is an option. I would contact your breeder, they should be able to help.
04-09-2019 05:55 AM
falnfenix Please reach out to your breeder if you cannot keep him...if they're crap and won't help you, then please find a rescue.
04-09-2019 04:07 AM
LadyDi So sad that you are having to deal with this issue.
Suggestion........if you have to give up your pup consider contacting a Doberman rescue group.
They will do a good job with thorough interviews of potential owners ..ensuring your dog gets a good home.
As they are looking for the perfect owners..... they have families that work with the rescue groups as foster parents until the dog has found their forever home.
Shelters can only do so much for so long.......and you stand the chance of your pup going to a crappy home or worse.
So hopefully things will work out for you ...but if not ....find a rescue group thats dedicated to the breed.
If you have to give him up.....thats the best thing you can do for him as an owner.
Again....I am sure this is painful for you......hoping and praying for the best of everything for you and your pup.
04-09-2019 01:01 AM
Dfwcity He's a Doberman Pinscher with documentation showing that he's of the Klaus bloodline.
04-09-2019 12:26 AM
Dfwcity
Looking for extra ways to make money with my Doberman

Hi everyone, when I bought my Dobie puppy my business was doing well and I had a large house with a yard. Now I'm not doing very good financially and I have a lot of debt. I'm currently renting a room from someone and they don't have room for my 100 lb Doberman so I’m paying $800 a month in Dallas for a dog sitter to house my Doberman pincher. I’m considering taking him to a shelter as a last resort. I've worked in a lot of different kinds of businesses and I learn quick. If there’s anyways I can make some extra money with him then I would be able to keep him. He’s a purebred with papers from his breeder. He’s three years old and not neutered.

Thanks for the help guys!
Scott

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