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05-25-2018 03:21 PM
TNfisher I know I'm late to the party, just saw this thread. We went through this twice, and I'm convinced this is partially the reason why Mocha turned out so reactive to other dogs.

2 1/2 years ago, we had a family buy the house next to us. They initially had one Akita, a male who was the most chill dog I've ever seen. All he did was sit or lay in the yard. Never heard him bark or growl, nor did he ever react towards Mocha when I took her out to play or potty.

Then they bought a female with the intent of later breeding the two together (Ugh). Right around the time she turned about 7-8 months old, she became really aggressive, barking and growling at every noise, and she was also very destructive. They kept her outside most of the day, and of course she got bored and destroyed their deck planters, furniture, dug holes all over the yard etc.
We have a 6 foot wooden privacy fence between us but every time I brought Mocha out to go potty or play, that female came charging at the fence, biting and scratching at the wood in an attempt to get at Mocha. That got Mocha all riled up and it got to the point where I had to take my dog potty on a leash. Talking to the neighbors nicely didn't work. Then lucky days, we saw a for rent sign in their yard, the husband who is military got an assignment to somewhere else. And there was much rejoicing.

Unfortunately, the family that rented the place after the others moved out came with a male German Shepherd who, yep, you guessed it, was super aggressive and would come charging the fence every time I took Mocha out. Plus, they put him out back at 7 in the morning and didn't let him back in till around 10 or 11 at night, no matter how hot it was, or how hard it was raining. I went over several times and talked to them, asking them to please at least take the dog in when I took Mocha out so she could go potty, play, or train without being distracted. All I got was "Dogs bark, what do you want us to do?"

I finally got pissed off and told them that if what they want is a yard ornament, I'd gladly go to Lowes and buy them a pink flamingo or one of those ceramic garden gnomes and then they could give the dog to someone who would care for it better. No, that didn't go over well, guess that made me "that jerk of a neighbor" LOL

Thankfully, they've since moved on and now there's peace and quiet.
04-20-2018 03:15 PM
StrykersPerson
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Originally Posted by golai View Post
Just wanted to offer a solution I've seen for people in similar situations: zip-tying a tarp to the chain link fence so it becomes solid instead of see-through.

Good luck, and sorry you're having to deal with this.
I like that idea!
04-19-2018 09:04 PM
StrykersPerson
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Originally Posted by SilasPup View Post
Sucky neighbors suck, but try to remember you can only be responsible for yourself and your own dogs. As much as you'd like your neighbors and their dog to change their behaviors, you will only frustrate yourself by trying to change things that are beyond your control.

It sounds like the pittie girl is more fearful than truly aggressive, and that she possibly has learned, in this short time, that she can frighten off your dogs (without risking physical danger to herself) with the fence fighting. I'm basing this on your comment about her doing nothing at first, until your dogs barked at her. It sounds like she reacted initially to your dogs barking at her, and has been learning important lessons daily since then. Since you can't control what she learns from her encounters with your dogs, I think your best bet is to try to keep her and your dogs from interacting at all. Control the environment. For your dogs as much as hers. So yeah, that means your dogs are on leash every single time they go outdoors.
Assuming she has that luxury!

There is no help with the law in my County when it comes to roaming dogs.

Although, if you shoot one , you must have a compelling reason when the Deputy gets called out.
04-19-2018 08:53 PM
StrykersPerson
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Originally Posted by monsteratlas View Post
Ugh, so earlier this week our trashy neighbors got a white pit bull, that I'm sure they just found as a stray. We have 4 foot chain link fence, the 6 months we lived here they have only had a cat (and I know the landlord over there said she doesn't want tenants to have pets, which is why we chose this house). I have no problems with pit bulls with the right owners but knowing how trashy our neighbors are, I immediately knew this was going to be a problem. I was, however, trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

The first day, the pit was just sitting there and only did anything if my dogs would bark at her, so I had high hopes. Now, though, only a couple days later, she's started stalking my dogs and charging the fence when they get close enough. My dogs have started ignoring her until she charges the fence, and now they are fence fighting, which is started by the pit. My little one now has to be walked on leash and I don't know if I should do the same with the two big dogs? I don't usually have much time for that and Atlas (our dobe) really needs the exercise he gets running around our yard. I really need advice on what to do about this. The pit is seemingly an outdoor dog, so no getting away from her. We rent so we can't build a privacy fence. I don't know the next door landlord's number or I'd absolutely tell her they have a dog. The neighbors barely speak english so I don't think talking to them will do anything. There is no doubt in my mind that this dog could jump our fence if she wanted to and it really worries me, especially because we have a really small 9 pound dog, and Atlas has VWD.

Any suggestions? The only real thing I can think of is to call animal control and tell them how she lives outside without shelter, but then all they have to do is get her a dog house so I don't think it will solve the problem. And the only other options I can think of would harm the pit but I obviously don't actually want to do those things because, ya know, I do love dogs, I'm just concerned about my own dogs' safety.

We are already planning on moving at the end of our lease but unfortunately that's not for another 6 months. This house has been a huge disappointment from the start and we're about fed up with it. It's a seemingly nice house in a seemingly nice neighborhood and there were never issues on the 3 tours we took and the countless times I drove around to see what the neighborhood was like. Then, after we moved in I guess 2 AM is outdoor karaoke time down the street, our neighbors apparently want to kill each other but only when I'm asleep, every single neighbor's dog must have fleas because somehow every few weeks we have to treat our yard, I guess we moved to rat city because there was an obvious rat problem by our 3rd day in this house before we even had gone grocery shopping and nothing we have done has helped, we almost constantly have trash being thrown in our yard but have no idea who's doing it... OH and the power goes out literally once a week. Sorry for the rant, it's pretty irrelevant to the topic but had to get it out...
I only got through your first paragraph and half of the next one and then my blood pressure started rising. I will come back later and address the rest of your thread.

Past bad experience with a "sweet" Pit, current ongoing experience with a Dane and his stupid people.

I might revisit your thread after my heart rate has gone down.

04-10-2018 05:33 PM
golai
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Originally Posted by monsteratlas View Post
We rent so we can't build a privacy fence.
Just wanted to offer a solution I've seen for people in similar situations: zip-tying a tarp to the chain link fence so it becomes solid instead of see-through.

Good luck, and sorry you're having to deal with this.
04-10-2018 12:10 AM
SilasPup Sucky neighbors suck, but try to remember you can only be responsible for yourself and your own dogs. As much as you'd like your neighbors and their dog to change their behaviors, you will only frustrate yourself by trying to change things that are beyond your control.

It sounds like the pittie girl is more fearful than truly aggressive, and that she possibly has learned, in this short time, that she can frighten off your dogs (without risking physical danger to herself) with the fence fighting. I'm basing this on your comment about her doing nothing at first, until your dogs barked at her. It sounds like she reacted initially to your dogs barking at her, and has been learning important lessons daily since then. Since you can't control what she learns from her encounters with your dogs, I think your best bet is to try to keep her and your dogs from interacting at all. Control the environment. For your dogs as much as hers. So yeah, that means your dogs are on leash every single time they go outdoors.
04-09-2018 08:17 PM
Dobes&Hounds They have this inexpensive stick-like bamboo fencing at home depot. You could easily secure it to the fence to create a barrier. It's 6' tall so it looks like more than it really is. (it's flimsy) I feel your pain as I have had issues with neighbor dogs and fence fighting. I know you don't want to invest much money into a rental. As awful as it sounds your dog might have to be walked on leash for your own peace of mind.
12-08-2017 11:59 AM
burkehinman California?
12-08-2017 09:57 AM
ECIN Not since those two yappy Pomeranian's in the rental house behind us moved out years ago. (Thankfully, because those little jerks had doggy door outside access 24/7)


Spocksdad :: LMAO
12-08-2017 09:24 AM
WVNed I think I would try and make friends with the other dog. Are you afraid of it? Are your dogs reacting to protect you?
12-07-2017 10:42 PM
spocksdad
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Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
...Mace/pepper spray and an air horn are a good idea...
I haven't tried it at the fence, but if you want a good air horn, try the EcoBlast:
https://amazon.com/SeaSense-Ecoblast...dp/B003QKO0A2/

We use this at work for emergency shutdowns for bulk oil transfers.
You get (50) blasts out of one pumped-up bottle.
Loud or louder than the canned air horns and eco friendly.
Might be good for walks for rogue dogs approaching, as well.

Our dogs haven't fence fought in a long time. Not since those two yappy Pomeranian's in the rental house behind us moved out years ago. (Thankfully, because those little jerks had doggy door outside access 24/7)
12-07-2017 09:41 PM
Artemis Aside from asking your neighbours to bring the dog in an hour or two a day so you can take your dogs out...
Mace/pepper spray and an air horn are a good idea.
My only other idea right now which might sound a bit unorthodox is maybe tossing something at the other dog to distract it when you take your dobes out. A frisbee/toy (not something too expensive you don't want to go broke either), and/or maybe a raw meaty bone. It doesn't sound like your neighbours pay much attention to it anyway.
Good luck. Is there any way you can find another place to live and sublet this one until the end of your lease?
12-07-2017 12:20 PM
ECIN This is pretty easy to take care of ! Here's what you do - You get the blank out of Dodge ! As in yesterday ! This is a no brainer - What is more important - you , your family AND your dogs safety - OR hanging around in a bad part of town ???

Since your pretty new on here ..

No Charge : )
12-07-2017 11:05 AM
greenkouki Do you have a homeowner's association? A way to find the address for the owner of the house next door might be through county tax records online. If you're able to do this you could write him or her a letter. Good luck.
12-07-2017 10:34 AM
Fitzmar Dobermans I would NOT carry a gun around to stop a dog fight - you could end up shooting your own dog, and truthfully do you want to shoot someones dog?! I would however carry some mace and a big stick/bat. You could also get an air horn and blare it at the dog when it comes over to the fence. I would stay out with your dogs and leash walk till you get some sort of fix.

I know it's not your home, but if you could put up a temporary 2nd fence line on that side that would separate the dogs by a few feet, that might help. Then try to create a visual break with some zip ties and black plastic or tarps along the fence. You could even try the visual break along the existing fence. A temporary fence could be made with some metal poles and rolled garden fencing. You could roll it back up and take it with you.

The whole thing is a pain - but I think it can be solved without gun fire. My dogs fence fight with one of the dogs next door. They are new within the past year and we have been here for going on 14 years. I've talked with the owners so there is no animosity between us. I don't think either of our dogs really want to fight - it has become like a game to them. After they are done barking at the fence, they try to pee on each other. So I'm fortunate that it does not appear to be serious between them. Just a lot of freaking noise!
12-06-2017 10:04 PM
4x4bike ped I'd rant also if I was in your situation.

Yes.. I would start walking all your dogs on a leash. I would never let them fence fight. The potential issues for your dogs down the line could be considerable.

One other thought, which may be unpopular with some: I would carry something that you can use for self defense. If you are licensed to carry a concealed hand gun then that would be my first choice. If not, then either a club or a deterrent spray. I have been in the middle of dog fights, unarmed. It is about as scary a place as one could ever be.

Preliminarily, I would definitely call your local animal control agency. Exaggerate if you have to, but get them out to put an eye on the problem.

This sounds like a situation that could go South in a heartbeat.

JMO
John
Portland OR

Edit to say: I would like to add one more suggestion. This is the point where you should get your landlord involved. I have been a landlord since 1980. The safety of my tenants is my #1 priority. I am currently going through a domestic violence problem with a couple in a small apartment building. The police, while sympathetic, basically had their hands tied by local laws. So I had to deal with it myself. Your landlord should have easy access to the owners or property managers of the next door property.

If you find your situation dangerous or untenable for other reasons, you should be able to break your lease.

J.
12-06-2017 10:55 AM
monsteratlas
What to do about an aggressive dog next door?

Ugh, so earlier this week our trashy neighbors got a white pit bull, that I'm sure they just found as a stray. We have 4 foot chain link fence, the 6 months we lived here they have only had a cat (and I know the landlord over there said she doesn't want tenants to have pets, which is why we chose this house). I have no problems with pit bulls with the right owners but knowing how trashy our neighbors are, I immediately knew this was going to be a problem. I was, however, trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

The first day, the pit was just sitting there and only did anything if my dogs would bark at her, so I had high hopes. Now, though, only a couple days later, she's started stalking my dogs and charging the fence when they get close enough. My dogs have started ignoring her until she charges the fence, and now they are fence fighting, which is started by the pit. My little one now has to be walked on leash and I don't know if I should do the same with the two big dogs? I don't usually have much time for that and Atlas (our dobe) really needs the exercise he gets running around our yard. I really need advice on what to do about this. The pit is seemingly an outdoor dog, so no getting away from her. We rent so we can't build a privacy fence. I don't know the next door landlord's number or I'd absolutely tell her they have a dog. The neighbors barely speak english so I don't think talking to them will do anything. There is no doubt in my mind that this dog could jump our fence if she wanted to and it really worries me, especially because we have a really small 9 pound dog, and Atlas has VWD.

Any suggestions? The only real thing I can think of is to call animal control and tell them how she lives outside without shelter, but then all they have to do is get her a dog house so I don't think it will solve the problem. And the only other options I can think of would harm the pit but I obviously don't actually want to do those things because, ya know, I do love dogs, I'm just concerned about my own dogs' safety.

We are already planning on moving at the end of our lease but unfortunately that's not for another 6 months. This house has been a huge disappointment from the start and we're about fed up with it. It's a seemingly nice house in a seemingly nice neighborhood and there were never issues on the 3 tours we took and the countless times I drove around to see what the neighborhood was like. Then, after we moved in I guess 2 AM is outdoor karaoke time down the street, our neighbors apparently want to kill each other but only when I'm asleep, every single neighbor's dog must have fleas because somehow every few weeks we have to treat our yard, I guess we moved to rat city because there was an obvious rat problem by our 3rd day in this house before we even had gone grocery shopping and nothing we have done has helped, we almost constantly have trash being thrown in our yard but have no idea who's doing it... OH and the power goes out literally once a week. Sorry for the rant, it's pretty irrelevant to the topic but had to get it out...

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