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11-14-2019 04:20 PM
LadyDi Oh these are all great tips..........
11-14-2019 03:56 PM
ECIN I use the phrases "ready to work?" or "let's go do some work" as part of my pre-search routine, so he knows he's not getting them until he does his job!

I wish you could teach that to some of the people around here

Sorry - couldn't help myself
11-14-2019 03:47 PM
Meldrew79
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Is there a treat that you girls keep in your mouth.........as soon as Hoss knows his reward is in my pocket ........he becomes so distracted............string cheese?
Hot dog?
I have a friend that will keep cooked chicken in her mouth, but we always tease her that if she ever gets to elite she's going to look like a chipmunk! (In elite trials you can have a lot of hides in a single search area).
Everyone else has given some great advice. I keep treats in my pocket with a few in my hand so I can try to reward as soon as he's on source. Every once and a great while Newtie will try to get a sniff of them in my hand at the start line and I tell him you gotta work for them! I use the phrases "ready to work?" or "let's go do some work" as part of my pre-search routine, so he knows he's not getting them until he does his job!
11-14-2019 01:44 PM
MeadowCat
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Originally Posted by Rosemary View Post
Having the treat in your mouth is a good way to have you dog focus on your face, which is why it's so popular when training fronts in obedience.

The "it's your choice" game that MC mentions is actually how my dogs were introduced to nosework. Odor, and only odor, pays.

When you are doing a search, keep your hands away from your pocket or treat pouch. If he tries mugging you, re-cue him to search. If he keeps it up, the search simply ends.

Once he does source the find, mark it, and then reach for your treats.

One exercise (sans dog) to help with getting the correct mark/reward sequence is to put out two bowls, one empty and one with treats. Set a timer for one minute, and then with your hands at your side, give your marker, then move one treat from the full bowl to the empty bowl, then put your hands back at your side. The goal is to get as many treats as possible into the other bowl while not moving your hands until after the mark.
As Rosemary said, we inadvertently give our dogs LOTS of cues in scentwork. We do a lot of "bad handler" exercises in class....delaying paying them for their find..., turning the other way, walking away, all kinds of stuff. You have to have a solid foundation first, but these types of things build better odor obedience and help for trialing. Our trainer sometimes has us play a game where when our dog gets the hide we can't "pay" them until we can, for example, come up with five movie titles for comedies, or something similar. It feels like forever, but with a dog that really has a strong foundation you can build really nice obedience to odor and a willingness to wait for payment.
11-14-2019 01:23 PM
Rosemary Having the treat in your mouth is a good way to have you dog focus on your face, which is why it's so popular when training fronts in obedience.

The "it's your choice" game that MC mentions is actually how my dogs were introduced to nosework. Odor, and only odor, pays.

When you are doing a search, keep your hands away from your pocket or treat pouch. If he tries mugging you, re-cue him to search. If he keeps it up, the search simply ends.

Once he does source the find, mark it, and then reach for your treats.

One exercise (sans dog) to help with getting the correct mark/reward sequence is to put out two bowls, one empty and one with treats. Set a timer for one minute, and then with your hands at your side, give your marker, then move one treat from the full bowl to the empty bowl, then put your hands back at your side. The goal is to get as many treats as possible into the other bowl while not moving your hands until after the mark.
11-14-2019 01:21 PM
LadyDi
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Originally Posted by MeadowCat View Post
Sometimes we play the "it's yer choice" game with odor....one hand has a hand full of treats, one hand has the odor tin. The dog has to make the choice to keep their nose on odor in order to get the reward. It's not only a good way to build up odor obedience and staying power at odor, but it also can help work away from distractions (treats). It might be a good game for Hoss. You can then play with it on the fridge or something, just a little bit more distance. It's a nice, easy game.

Thanks ..that's a great idea. We can play that game easily.
Will start that right away ....
11-14-2019 01:18 PM
LadyDi
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Originally Posted by greenkouki View Post
I have found that asking "show me!" is a great way to get by this. Try not to reward when he gets frustrated and chews or jumps on the boxes... What is Hoss's alert?

Initially I was having him place paw on the box till he got to rough dobe smacking them.......

He still smacks them (trying to undo that) but now I am making him sit at source.
11-14-2019 12:32 PM
MeadowCat Sometimes we play the "it's yer choice" game with odor....one hand has a hand full of treats, one hand has the odor tin. The dog has to make the choice to keep their nose on odor in order to get the reward. It's not only a good way to build up odor obedience and staying power at odor, but it also can help work away from distractions (treats). It might be a good game for Hoss. You can then play with it on the fridge or something, just a little bit more distance. It's a nice, easy game.
11-14-2019 12:14 PM
greenkouki
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I have a treat pouch...Hoss is so tall.......his nose is level with the ppouch and he pokes it with his nose constantly.

I have worn a pouch on my front ...and back ........poke poke poke .......even around my neck.

His nose is right there !!! poke poke poke ......ignoring the boxes..........so I wait........he gets nothing.........till he deals with the boxes.

He eventually goes to the boxes......he is such a player. LOL

We are beginners so I will just hold my ground with him! Ignore and wait for him to play the game correctly.
I have found that asking "show me!" is a great way to get by this. Try not to reward when he gets frustrated and chews or jumps on the boxes... What is Hoss's alert?
11-14-2019 12:10 PM
LadyDi I have a treat pouch...Hoss is so tall.......his nose is level with the ppouch and he pokes it with his nose constantly.

I have worn a pouch on my front ...and back ........poke poke poke .......even around my neck.

His nose is right there !!! poke poke poke ......ignoring the boxes..........so I wait........he gets nothing.........till he deals with the boxes.

He eventually goes to the boxes......he is such a player. LOL

We are beginners so I will just hold my ground with him! Ignore and wait for him to play the game correctly.
11-14-2019 12:03 PM
greenkouki Have fun at your first trial, you will do great! Get a pouch for treats! They are like $5 on chewy or amazon. If you only reward him at the odor source he will become less distracted and will not be looking up at you for the treat, he will quickly realize he only gets rewarded when he stays on source.

I get these frozen breakfast sausages for like $1 for a pack at aldis and cut them up into little disks. They are great for training treats or at the trial! I also do cubes of cheese or cut up string cheese.
11-14-2019 12:02 PM
LadyDi OK...I guess this will come in time as I wait for Hoss to go through his different learning stages.

Suspect He will figure out he is wasting time by looking at my pockets......in time.

LOL
11-14-2019 11:57 AM
MeadowCat
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Originally Posted by LadyDi View Post
Is there a treat that you girls keep in your mouth.........as soon as Hoss knows his reward is in my pocket ........he becomes so distracted............string cheese?
Hot dog?
Nope. Treats in the pouch. Mine know they need to work to earn their rewards.
11-14-2019 11:55 AM
LadyDi Is there a treat that you girls keep in your mouth.........as soon as Hoss knows his reward is in my pocket ........he becomes so distracted............string cheese?
Hot dog?
11-14-2019 11:51 AM
MeadowCat I would definitely go watch - sounds like fun!
11-14-2019 11:48 AM
LadyDi Dog Training Center St Petersburg

AKC trials......check out this site......this is the training center we attend.

Go to the site .... dtcsp.org

Under events are all the details for this weekend......judges etc.

Friday should be special because all the professional dogs are doing trials.....police, fire rescue, etc. might leave Hoss at home to go watch that for fun.

Hopefully we will leave with one green ribbon ...Hoss is so funny ..he gets so excited....
11-14-2019 11:29 AM
Rosemary
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Originally Posted by LadyDi View Post
Well Hoss is participating in his first trial this weekend.
He is entered for Saturday and Sunday.
He still slaps those boxes around quite a bit but the boxes are not flying so far away!!
Expecting to get the bloopers award this weekend!! LOL
We will be inside with 10 boxes and one scent with 2 minutes to find......looking forward to having alot of fun with this ......the joy of being in novice !!
My instructor told me the judge we have is real nice and fun to interact with in conjunction with novice category.
How exciting! What organization?
11-14-2019 11:24 AM
ECIN Di - If I were you - Any way - this is what I would do - Is to fly down 79 - Newtie AND MC with her dober pair and have them give you some pointers + There season is done till spring - Just say 'n'
11-14-2019 11:10 AM
MeadowCat
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Originally Posted by LadyDi View Post
Well Hoss is participating in his first trial this weekend.
He is entered for Saturday and Sunday.
He still slaps those boxes around quite a bit but the boxes are not flying so far away!!
Expecting to get the bloopers award this weekend!! LOL
We will be inside with 10 boxes and one scent with 2 minutes to find......looking forward to having alot of fun with this ......the joy of being in novice !!
My instructor told me the judge we have is real nice and fun to interact with in conjunction with novice category.
Wow! That's fast.

Have fun!
11-14-2019 10:59 AM
LadyDi Will do!
11-14-2019 10:57 AM
Meldrew79 Have fun! Remember to trust your dog!
11-14-2019 10:43 AM
ECIN Good Luck Team Hoss !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-14-2019 10:05 AM
LadyDi Well Hoss is participating in his first trial this weekend.
He is entered for Saturday and Sunday.
He still slaps those boxes around quite a bit but the boxes are not flying so far away!!
Expecting to get the bloopers award this weekend!! LOL
We will be inside with 10 boxes and one scent with 2 minutes to find......looking forward to having alot of fun with this ......the joy of being in novice !!
My instructor told me the judge we have is real nice and fun to interact with in conjunction with novice category.
10-24-2019 09:25 AM
Meldrew79 Yes, we've talked about the shake before! I think it depends on the dog, but it's often a stress release. Not a bad stress necessarily, but almost like an athlete coming up to the starting line and taking a deep breath. A way for them to clear the air and get ready for the job at hand.
10-24-2019 05:31 AM
LadyDi Was at nosework class last night and a question was presented .......the instructor said there was a discussion regarding many Nosework dogs .....as they are approaching the start line the dog “shakes” just like after bath time.....big shake.......they were trying to determine why they do this.......any of you ever had a discussion regarding this behavior?
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