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12-02-2012 12:15 AM
GingerGunlock Elka, cropped and docked, has been called various things. By children, she's been called a reindeer, a horse, and a cow. By adults, she's been called a greyhound more than once, a great dane, and also a Doberman but clearly a mix


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Originally Posted by ZeldaRules View Post
Probably a bit less painful than a spay, but you're right, it's a surgical procedure and anything relating to surgery is going to cause some pain. Puppies "endure" it just fine though...just like spays and neuters
This. Elka's spay bothered her FAR more than having her ears cropped.
12-02-2012 12:04 AM
Jazi
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Originally Posted by dobermama View Post
My Rottweiler was OFTEN not recognized as a Rott- he was black & mahogany, German style, show bred and was a lovely example of his breed. Most folks in this area obviously had only seen the crap bred "Muttweilers" and thus had no clue what he was. I was dumbfounded when folks who were in the middle of petting him would automatically jump backwards as they asked what he was and I replied "rottweiler". Seriously, like that word is going to turn the dog you are petting into a dangerous animal? People are idiots, pure and simple...
Thought I posted on this before. Forum musta ate it.

I get this ALL THE TIME when walking Mocha or Baby. As soon as I say "chow mix" or "pit bull" when they ask what they are, they jump back/snatch their children away. And then, just in case the dog might overhear and snap right there and then, they lean in close and give me the hushed whisper of "don't you know they turn on their owners once they mature?"

Mocha is 4 in February, Baby is 8, both dogs have old lady grey faces.

Back when I had the GSDs, I got "wolf" and "hybrid" a lot with the sables. The black GSD (Queenie) was often a "lab mix", though one lady swore she looked just like her "champion show lined" black lab Even better, a buddy of mine was telling me about how she was walking an English Bulldog and some yahoo pulled over and told her she had a really nice looking Doberman.
12-01-2012 11:37 PM
thea2003 Sully is only 45lbs and has ears and a tail and so far no one has mistaken him for anything other than a doberman. One person wasn't sure if he was a purebred or not.
Saph is cropped and docked and people usually think she is a great dane(70lbs) or a greyhound.... you know, because she is grey.
12-01-2012 11:28 PM
lolonurse I get people asking - or telling - me all the time that Willie is a chocolate Lab or mix. Once upon a time, I cared... but people no longer ask for confirmation... they tell you, because clearly they are experts. I really, truly no longer give a hoot. Those who are interested can ask. Those who tell me have already lost my respect or interest at the outset. When I was about 16, we had a GSP who I showed briefly as a junior handler. Some arrogant bastard on the street one day advised me that Clem was a Vials. When I corrected him, he got hostile. Clem was very calm, but began a menacing growl under his breath, dear boy, and the a-hole huffed away. I really don't care what strangers think.
12-01-2012 05:17 PM
ataro
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Originally Posted by Zeblar View Post
Oh man that's brilliant. A Lab seriously? at least a Rottie is similar in colouring but a Dobe looks naff all like a Lab.

Where about's in Germany are you?
I guess she's a "black Lab" just like a brown Dobe is a "chocolate Lab"... Dobes are really becoming unpopular here these days, I guess. I still find it strange that people in the country of origin where the breed is not C/D have trouble identifying it . I'm in Berlin, btw.
12-01-2012 03:17 PM
Zeblar
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Originally Posted by ataro View Post
I'm also living in Germany, and the VET TECH at the clinic asked me if Ashra was a Labrador. And when I said no, she's a Dobermann the same woman asked me if she was a mix
Oh man that's brilliant. A Lab seriously? at least a Rottie is similar in colouring but a Dobe looks naff all like a Lab.

Where about's in Germany are you?
12-01-2012 03:04 PM
vivienne00
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Originally Posted by Q734 View Post
LOL I think it's funny OP that you're so bothered to the point you feel compelled to drag out registration papers(curious what breeder would let you have flops anyway)....and expect Joe Q Public to get that dobes can come in blue and aren't born cropped.

/cantankerously yours truly
I hunted to find one that would "let me have flops" and still provide a show/performance line puppy. Now I have a handler wanting to know if she can handle my puppy in the breed ring. Still mulling that over.
12-01-2012 12:47 PM
ataro
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Originally Posted by Zeblar View Post
If it makes you feel better, I have had German's in the Lower Saxony area of Germany ask me if Odin was a Rottweiler. I mean c'mon, both of those breeds originate from here you would like to think they could tell the difference. But nope, they are just as stupid here too. Makes me wish you could C/D here, at least there wouldn't be any confusion then. Then again Odin looks nothing like a Rottie...

I'm also living in Germany, and the VET TECH at the clinic asked me if Ashra was a Labrador. And when I said no, she's a Dobermann the same woman asked me if she was a mix
12-01-2012 11:41 AM
Dobelove I was at a dog show with Avril, her ears standing up and this guy who shows dogs came up to me and said he was so happy I didn't crop her ears. And I think it's the color that's getting people thinking he's not purebred. When we had our blue and our fawn we always got comments asking if they were purebred.

You're never going to please everyone.
12-01-2012 10:51 AM
Xenabean I love the floppy ears. Especially when both flop back and get stuck and my dog is walking around looking like she has buns. Attachment 19454


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12-01-2012 10:28 AM
dobermama Thus far I haven't encountered anyone who hasn't immediately recognized Remy as a Doberman (he is natural eared, black & rust). My red natural boy, on the other hand, was occasionally mislabeled as a Weimeraner (cuz they come in RED, right?).

My Rottweiler was OFTEN not recognized as a Rott- he was black & mahogany, German style, show bred and was a lovely example of his breed. Most folks in this area obviously had only seen the crap bred "Muttweilers" and thus had no clue what he was. I was dumbfounded when folks who were in the middle of petting him would automatically jump backwards as they asked what he was and I replied "rottweiler". Seriously, like that word is going to turn the dog you are petting into a dangerous animal? People are idiots, pure and simple...

I will confess though, that I do have an instant (negative) response to cropped ears. I know that it causes them pain, and only for a cosmetic result- so admit freely that is does bother me. I try very hard not to make negative comments, but have on occasion without thinking first. I think the same thing when I see folks with body modification piercings, but they did it willingly. Can't imagine any dog willingly submitting to surgery & the posting process if given an option...

That being said, it is a personal choice for the owner, unless the law states otherwise, so I just opt to not subject my dogs to it and hope that someday the standard moves away from such practices...
12-01-2012 10:12 AM
VZ-Doberman I was sitting in the vet's office one day with Bacchus and a woman walked over and said she was so glad I didn't have his ears cropped.

Bacchus has a show crop......

Idiots.
12-01-2012 10:00 AM
Toby'shuman
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Originally Posted by Zeblar View Post
If it makes you feel better, I have had German's in the Lower Saxony area of Germany ask me if Odin was a Rottweiler. I mean c'mon, both of those breeds originate from here you would like to think they could tell the difference. But nope, they are just as stupid here too. Makes me wish you could C/D here, at least there wouldn't be any confusion then. Then again Odin looks nothing like a Rottie...
Zee Germans are never wrong. You must remember this. They are the master race.
12-01-2012 09:47 AM
Zeblar If it makes you feel better, I have had German's in the Lower Saxony area of Germany ask me if Odin was a Rottweiler. I mean c'mon, both of those breeds originate from here you would like to think they could tell the difference. But nope, they are just as stupid here too. Makes me wish you could C/D here, at least there wouldn't be any confusion then. Then again Odin looks nothing like a Rottie...
12-01-2012 08:17 AM
Toby'shuman Most folk round here don't stop me to make comments on my Dobe. They are usually too busy running the opposite way.
Don't get me wrong, Toby has never done anything to warrant that kind of reaction, rather folk here are just plain ignorant and don't want educating otherwise that not all Dobes are the living version of the Resident Evil Zombie Dobes.
12-01-2012 07:26 AM
Beaumont67
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Originally Posted by missabaldwin View Post
I know I'm not a 'non-cropper' but I want to share with you that people are so ignorant when it comes to dogs.
I have had multiple people tell me they are "so glad I didn't crop his ears."
^^^ Over the years:
I'd get this comment (several times) sitting in the Vet's waiting room...from the nice old ladies, holding their poodle or shitsu.
With my Amy, sitting relaxed and ears back.
- I always took the time to educate them, and show people the surgery edge of the ears...that they found interesting, and acted polite
12-01-2012 01:56 AM
Amelia_ Some people are just idiots, I wouldn't give them the time of day I get comments like '...so when will his ears start standing up' which just makes me laugh at their reaction when I tell them they're natural ears and they need surgery to make them stand. I get mostly nice comments about his tail TBH, but there is the odd 'omg dobes look disgusting with a tail.
12-01-2012 01:45 AM
Kalecho
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Originally Posted by Keno's Mom View Post
Keno is now a 11 month blue bundle of energy. When I take him out people ask, "What kind of dog is he" I say, "Blue Doberman" they ask, "Why didn't you get his ears done. He don't look like a Doberman. He's not a full breed, he's mixed with something." Which is a lie. I sometimes want to carry his AKC registration around with me. I think its because I didn't get his ears done but that was a personal choice. Ear cropping don't take away from his overall demenor, I just personally didn't think he needed to endure the pain of having his ears cut off just to LOOK a certain way.

How do you guys deal with the ignorant things peoples say?
You just have to shrug your shoulders and say to yourself, oh well, not a dog person, and forget about it and walk away. Even though I still love the cropped look I'm starting to really like the natural look. If cropping becomes banned in the future I certainly won't give up on the breed. Love it too much.
12-01-2012 01:32 AM
Keno's Mom
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Originally Posted by Q734 View Post
LOL I think it's funny OP that you're so bothered to the point you feel compelled to drag out registration papers(curious what breeder would let you have flops anyway)....and expect Joe Q Public to get that dobes can come in blue and aren't born cropped.

/cantankerously yours truly



I got him from a breeder in Chicago,, and is it customary for the breeder to do the ears and NOT sell them with their "flops".
This thread was just a testament to how annoyed I get with ppl sometimes. Of course when I take him out I'm not equipped with his registration papers. I'm just saying ppl usually give him and me the side eye when I say he's a done.
12-01-2012 01:08 AM
Q734 LOL I think it's funny OP that you're so bothered to the point you feel compelled to drag out registration papers(curious what breeder would let you have flops anyway)....and expect Joe Q Public to get that dobes can come in blue and aren't born cropped.

/cantankerously yours truly
11-30-2012 11:30 PM
RedFawnRising
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Originally Posted by Lori Z View Post
If someone said to me, "he don't look like a doberman" the grammar would be enough for me not to need to say a thing to that person. The problem isn't his ears, the problem is that he is a blue. I have blk and not person has ever said he wasn't a doberman. In fact I have only been asked a couple of times and he is almost 4. People don't know about breeds to begin with and you throw reds, blues and fawns at them, well, their brains explode with stupid. Who argues with someone about what kind of dog they have, that has never happened to me. If people ask they accept the answer, where you live people are stupid and rude! Rise above it and laugh!
^^^This.

I think coat colors/markings are the single thing most of the public notices.

I would politely tell folks what your boy is, and if they argue with you, I'd have some fun with that.

But, sarcasm fuels my soul, and that may not be your style. I just find entertainment value in such things

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I had Wheeler and Lola out the other day romping in the park. A fella stopped and watched them for a minute and then asked me what kind of Dogs they were. I shrugged my shoulders and said, "I dunno, just a couple of mutts I got from the pound". He nodded, bid me a good afternoon and went on his way.
That's too funny.

I have told folks who are giving me a hard time over my little hairless girl that I'm saving up the money to take her to the vet to find out what made all her hair fall out.

A big silly grin and an offer for them to pet her usually sends them right on their way, at that point



11-30-2012 10:49 PM
ShelianDobe I had Wheeler and Lola out the other day romping in the park. A fella stopped and watched them for a minute and then asked me what kind of Dogs they were. I shrugged my shoulders and said, "I dunno, just a couple of mutts I got from the pound". He nodded, bid me a good afternoon and went on his way.
11-30-2012 10:08 PM
flash98 My girl was not cropped, though her tail was docked. She looked every bit the part as a red dobergirl but I still got occasional comments that "oh what is she" or when I told them she was a doberman (pure bred) that she "must be a mix" I would then say um...no she's not. She just has natural ears and is a little bit on the small side.

So now with my new doberman he came cropped from the breeder, and just this week I encountered the "oh I am so glad you kept the ears like that" comment. Ok, whatever!

I agree that big dog ignorance is well rampant.
11-30-2012 09:27 PM
ZeldaRules
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Originally Posted by Keno's Mom View Post
I wouldn't doubt it was painful tho,, but to each his own..
Probably a bit less painful than a spay, but you're right, it's a surgical procedure and anything relating to surgery is going to cause some pain. Puppies "endure" it just fine though...just like spays and neuters

One of my former fosters is a floppy eared blue. People were pretty confused. They get really thrown off if you're walking around with a floppy eared/full tailed fawn Dobe!
11-30-2012 09:20 PM
Keno's Mom
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Originally Posted by ZeldaRules View Post
I can't recall the last time that Prime mentioned to me how traumatic and painful his ear cropping was.
I wouldn't doubt it was painful tho,, but to each his own..
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