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11-23-2012 03:14 PM
RedFawnRising
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Glad this site is available...however,unless you talk to directly to me, or come to my home, how are you going to know how I truly do things? I own my own male because then I know what I have. I have run across "reputable" breeders that fudge paperwork and health testing results. (yes for a fact!) I do not line breed or inbreed. I do extensive pedigree, temperament and health result background research, prior to my purchasing my Dobermans and expect nothing less from people that purchase from me. I did import from Greece & prefer Euro's over "American". I do not co-own because I prefer to raise & train "my own". ( I missed the class on sharing in Kindergarten). I am very protective over my Dobermans as I am sure you all are over your 4 legged babies! I do not put any info with AKC, UKC or OFFA up on my website because I have had them copy and pasted and used without my consent from another "breeder", collecting money from unsuspecting "victims" telling them they bred to my male. How do I know this? Because, someone who didnt receive a puppy called me in tears & asked if I bred to her female and yes I had to get the law involved. In my area the AKC show people, co-own many, many dogs together & yes it looks like a breeder only has 1 or 2 litters in actuality they have many more. Frankly, I dont care what anyone does, it is irrelevant to me. Do I have proof of all my accusations? Absolutely! I dont know why but people always bring things (paperwork,photos of living conditions etc. I even get the full story from Vets that are on call at the dog shows). Do I name names & show proof, nope...its none of my business. I do not need to expand my Doberman Family by saying "Oh you dont want one of their puppies, because" I truly believe in Karma, I also know what I do and thats good enough for me. I have tried to get involved in Trials, Tracking,etc for working titles, but in my area that is very limited. I have tried Conformation and did well. However, the politics is BRUTAL! Is it worth,being pinned against the pole before going in the ring by the "AKC people" or getting "hate emails" after I show up "in their ring" with a Euro? When I kick their butts in the ring,yes it is! I dont know why people want to express opinions about others when they do not have the facts. Nature of the Beast, Dog Eat Dog World? Who knows...I dont lose sleep over it. Like I said, I know what I do, I know how my dogs are, I know what health testing I've done....I know my dogs sleep on my couch and bed. They have litters in my sunroom, not outside or in the basement...(& so on & so on...All I ever tell people is do your research, look at Health reports and go to the breeders home! Kelly
To the discerning reader, you sure conveyed a lot of information about yourself, in this post.

Not the information you intended, of course, but still, important information.



11-23-2012 03:00 PM
EmilyB Don't you know folks, when you say Euro, none of that other stuff is important anymore, like health testing and stuff........
11-23-2012 11:43 AM
Darkevs edited to say...............

actually.

nevermind.
11-23-2012 11:36 AM
AlyssaN Welcome to DT.

I'm guessing that you're the owner of Dullea Dobermen?

Feel free to introduce yourself in the New Members section. This is a 3 month old thread.
11-23-2012 11:04 AM
wileminafufu Glad this site is available...however,unless you talk to directly to me, or come to my home, how are you going to know how I truly do things? I own my own male because then I know what I have. I have run across "reputable" breeders that fudge paperwork and health testing results. (yes for a fact!) I do not line breed or inbreed. I do extensive pedigree, temperament and health result background research, prior to my purchasing my Dobermans and expect nothing less from people that purchase from me. I did import from Greece & prefer Euro's over "American". I do not co-own because I prefer to raise & train "my own". ( I missed the class on sharing in Kindergarten). I am very protective over my Dobermans as I am sure you all are over your 4 legged babies! I do not put any info with AKC, UKC or OFFA up on my website because I have had them copy and pasted and used without my consent from another "breeder", collecting money from unsuspecting "victims" telling them they bred to my male. How do I know this? Because, someone who didnt receive a puppy called me in tears & asked if I bred to her female and yes I had to get the law involved. In my area the AKC show people, co-own many, many dogs together & yes it looks like a breeder only has 1 or 2 litters in actuality they have many more. Frankly, I dont care what anyone does, it is irrelevant to me. Do I have proof of all my accusations? Absolutely! I dont know why but people always bring things (paperwork,photos of living conditions etc. I even get the full story from Vets that are on call at the dog shows). Do I name names & show proof, nope...its none of my business. I do not need to expand my Doberman Family by saying "Oh you dont want one of their puppies, because" I truly believe in Karma, I also know what I do and thats good enough for me. I have tried to get involved in Trials, Tracking,etc for working titles, but in my area that is very limited. I have tried Conformation and did well. However, the politics is BRUTAL! Is it worth,being pinned against the pole before going in the ring by the "AKC people" or getting "hate emails" after I show up "in their ring" with a Euro? When I kick their butts in the ring,yes it is! I dont know why people want to express opinions about others when they do not have the facts. Nature of the Beast, Dog Eat Dog World? Who knows...I dont lose sleep over it. Like I said, I know what I do, I know how my dogs are, I know what health testing I've done....I know my dogs sleep on my couch and bed. They have litters in my sunroom, not outside or in the basement...(& so on & so on...All I ever tell people is do your research, look at Health reports and go to the breeders home! Kelly
08-24-2012 07:06 PM
sam&macksmom Check out the link in my signature line, as a starting point to checking out breeders.
08-24-2012 07:03 PM
Rosemary If someone owns both the sire and dam, they generally are breeding them from convenience, and not because that dog is the best match for their bitch. It is espcially true if the are breeding all their bitches to only their dog.
08-24-2012 07:03 PM
Adara You could linebreed and not own the dog but co-own the dog or just breed to a relative. The best dog for your bitch is RARELY in your own house. The goal is to produce the best possible litter, not just produce puppies. So the goal is to find the stud dog that brings the best to your bitch (and vice versa).

I have had a few people come meet my Vizsla Havoc who has sired a few local litters and I have no problem making time for them. I feel it is important too.
08-24-2012 06:58 PM
zorianak
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Originally Posted by Adara View Post
I would please keep in mind most reputable breeders do NOT have both the sire and dam on the premises. Very occasionally they do but normally only BYBS/bad breeders do.
I'm curious about that - because some of the things I come across seem to conflict. I understand outcrossing, and I'm assuming that's why, but it seems like some of the puppy buying guides state that the breeder ought to have the parents where you can meet them? I know that's not always going to be true and I'm never alarmed if you can't meet the sire (since I myself always used outside sires with horses).
08-24-2012 06:37 PM
Adara I would please keep in mind most reputable breeders do NOT have both the sire and dam on the premises. Very occasionally they do but normally only BYBS/bad breeders do.
08-24-2012 06:30 PM
Rosemary Not much information on their website. They do have a bitch with a UKC GCH that is AKC pointed, but that's all I saw. No mention of any other titles or any health testing. I'd want a whole lot more information before buying a pup from them.
08-24-2012 06:15 PM
DP lover
re: Dobies by Dullea references

HI,
I am looking for a male black & rust pup as a companion dog (we have a female mini-dachshund and two cats). Does anyone have info about Dobies by Dullea - I live in Central MA and would prefer to buy a pup locally so that I can meet the parents and the breeder. Thanks for any advice you can share!

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