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I've always had males Ive never owned a female dog and I've always owned pitbulls and Dobermans. Usually I take in male dogs (almost always "aggressive" breeds) and foster them and get them accustomed to living with other males...(when the shelter needs the help) I have also never had a puppy before so this IS new to me but my male is very accustomed to other males we actually had another APBT that was mine (Deuce is my bfs) and while we were house sitting for a friend someone stole him out of the fence when we let them.out into his yard to potty. We have searched for him for months and notified every vet shelter rescue etc and no luck :-(

Anyway I think we have decided on Tango for the pups name :-)
An issue here that you're not thinking about:

Your resident male may be fine, but your male Doberman puppy of unknown genetics might mature into a male aggressive dog. All the socialization in the world can't magically fix it.

Did you guys leave that APBT in the backyard and then leave? How was there time for someone to break into the backyard or jump it and hoist the dog over without anyone knowing?
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I've always had males Ive never owned a female dog and I've always owned pitbulls and Dobermans. Usually I take in male dogs (almost always "aggressive" breeds) and foster them and get them accustomed to living with other males...(when the shelter needs the help) I have also never had a puppy before so this IS new to me but my male is very accustomed to other males we actually had another APBT that was mine (Deuce is my bfs) and while we were house sitting for a friend someone stole him out of the fence when we let them.out into his yard to potty. We have searched for him for months and notified every vet shelter rescue etc and no luck :-(

Anyway I think we have decided on Tango for the pups name :-)

How did someone hoist a fully grown dog out of their own backyard? Have you ever owned a doberman before? I hope you know not to leave them alone by themselves. Not only can they get into trouble, but if they are stealing pits out of people's yards, think of what they will do with a doberman! IDK this whole thing sounds poorly thought out.

And I have to side with ZeldaRules on this one- the pup will most likely grow up and eventually not like other males- especially with this breed being as clingy as it is. No amount of socialization will change his eventual disposition. Please do some more research and learn as much as possible regarding owning a male doberman.
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Did you guys leave that APBT in the backyard and then leave? How was there time for someone to break into the backyard or jump it and hoist the dog over without anyone knowing?
burglar's are very clever and sneaky especially in low income neighborhoods, this one time i left my beach cruiser inside my gated front yard, i had a lock but didn't put it on because i was only going to use the bathroom, i was gone for 3mins, when i came back outside, my bike was gone..!! damn i really miss that bike too

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Welcome Ty from Kansas. Tango is a great name. I was concerned about the age thing, too. Just from all I've ever read. I do hear what you are trying to convey, though about the situation. I am a dog OWNER. I do not hold anything in anyway of my experience as being that knowledgable on Dobermans or any other breed so it is best that I don't even TRY to express comments about training or breeding or anything else that requires way more know how then I have myself. Again welcome. There are plenty of people here that have lots of info that is really good.
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I was I the waiting list at Strongheart Dobermans. The breeder Kat has magnificent dog and they do search and rescue work among other things. I did NOT get this puppy from her.

The pup I have I got from a man. He only wanted $20 to cover the expense of first shots and worming. It was a very small price to pay to save a life. He's definitely already part of the family and he's very smart he's already learning to use his pee pad.
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I honestly don't know how my dog was stolen so quickly. We let them both out for about 20 mins and please no negative comments about leaving dog in a fence for 20 mins unsupervised. We had been letting them out every 3/4 hours for 4 days. The lock in the gate was cut. What I don't understand is why Deuce didn't alert us like he normally does or dis we just not hear him..the yard is about 2 acres all fenced in so maybe I just didn't hear him I don't know. We were not IN a neighborhood its a house in the country however we did search all the nearby neighborhoods and found out that 6 other dog of all types had been stolen that week.

Yes I have owned a Dobermans before until my ex husband got him in the divorce as well as taken care if many others. My APBT was adopted by me at the age if 3 and the rescue even had his papers when I got him. He came from an unknown situation and did not care for other males. Him and Deuce hated each other at first but with alot of patience and teaching boundaries they became inseparable. Its not always impossible.
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Welcome aboard! I am new here but there are many knowledgable, helpful people on this site. (some people don't read posts fully before responding, just breath deeply, count to 10, and don't take it personally..lol, it's all coming from concern for the animals and the breed)
Good luck with your boy and so sorry about the theft of your other. There are many cases out there where it's just bizarre as to how the individuals managed to steal the dog. Hell, if they can steal horses from a paddock, down a gravel drive past a house with people and dogs in it...taking a dog is a piece of cake!
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I've always had males Ive never owned a female dog and I've always owned pitbulls and Dobermans. Usually I take in male dogs (almost always "aggressive" breeds) and foster them and get them accustomed to living with other males...(when the shelter needs the help) I have also never had a puppy before so this IS new to me but my male is very accustomed to other males we actually had another APBT that was mine (Deuce is my bfs) and while we were house sitting for a friend someone stole him out of the fence when we let them.out into his yard to potty. We have searched for him for months and notified every vet shelter rescue etc and no luck :-(

Anyway I think we have decided on Tango for the pups name :-)
Do some research, what you've always done isn't right just because you've always done it.... you are/have been putting all your current and past pets at risk and that's just negligent and unfair.

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Sam1491 the was no litter left. He was the last puppy and he was outside in a pen alone separated from his mother. Personally I think he's definitely better off in my home then all alone like he has been for a week now (the man told me the last pup left a week ago he started getting rid of them at 4 aka so that pup was 5wks and he took the momma away from this one the same say)
You completely misunderstood what me saying he left his litter to early meant, it has nothing to do with the fact that they were already gone and everything to do with the fact that the "breeders" sold the WHOLE litter to young and that is a problem that is now walking around in your home. He will need serious bite inhibition work AT LEAST let alone anything else that may pop up from his unknown health history besides! the possible and probable ssa, which is NOT something you can train out of a dog.

You can spin whatever excuse or sob story you want, it's heart wrenching to leave a pup but by paying these people and taking the puppy you just encouraged a problem, regardless of them spaying/neutering their current dogs, you still funded an accidental litter and negligence/ignorance. Simply calling the authorities isn't enough either, you have to push the animal welfare issue in a lot of states, counties, cities, etc... before things are done unless you are lucky enough to have good welfare laws.


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